trump took 100+ vacation days this year. how many did you get?

Lucky Luke

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Wouldn't the people of been better off if Trump had of scrapped any tax for people earning min wage, say $15k. This means they can maybe live and not have to use charities and food stamps. They may even be able to spend some money in the local economy- creates jobs.
Taxing the poorest doesn't seem very moral to me.

Leave the low and middle alone and tax the rich at an extra 2%, Corporations at an extra 5% and give everybody free to end user health care?
 

UncleBuck

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Wouldn't the people of been better off if Trump had of scrapped any tax for people earning min wage, say $15k. This means they can maybe live and not have to use charities and food stamps. They may even be able to spend some money in the local economy- creates jobs.
Taxing the poorest doesn't seem very moral to me.

Leave the low and middle alone and tax the rich at an extra 2%, Corporations at an extra 5% and give everybody free to end user health care?
trump's only motivations are to enrich himself and undo anything obama did.
 

PCXV

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Ryan's the kind that took out a second mortgage on his home so he could afford the down payment on a motor home.

You called it right. That tax cut is paid for by debt to be paid for by then next generation. It's more of a tax deferral than a cut. It's the wrong thing to do during an economic growth cycle, as anemic this one is.
Didn't Bush Jr. do the same thing which gave us zero cushion during the Recession? As soon as it crashed, raising taxes on the rich was heavily frowned upon, and a large part of the debt was for the extra weight our safety nets had to bear. We should be planning for a surplus for economic downturns.
 

PCXV

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Wouldn't the people of been better off if Trump had of scrapped any tax for people earning min wage, say $15k. This means they can maybe live and not have to use charities and food stamps. They may even be able to spend some money in the local economy- creates jobs.
Taxing the poorest doesn't seem very moral to me.

Leave the low and middle alone and tax the rich at an extra 2%, Corporations at an extra 5% and give everybody free to end user health care?
Republicans are majority in Congress. Donald fucking Trump is the President of the United States. How fucking high are you? If that bud makes what you say seem halfway mathematically possible, let alone the political obstacles to enact it, give me about a pound.
 
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Lucky Luke

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Republicans are majority in Congress. Donald fucking Trump is the President of the United States. How fucking high are you? If that bud makes what you say seem halfway mathematically possibly, let alone the political obstacles to enact it, give me about a pound.
Hey..im not American. Don't really care. Sounds like a better plan than tax write off's for private planes and large corporate tax cuts whilst taking money off the poorest people.
Seems to work for other countries...

But you keep believing in trickle down economics.....

I'm still in shock that you lot elected trump as leader of the free world.....like its funny, in a sad and dangerous way.
 

PCXV

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Hey..im not American. Don't really care. Sounds like a better plan than tax write off's for private planes and large corporate tax cuts whilst taking money off the poorest people.
Seems to work for other countries...

But you keep believing in trickle down economics.....

I'm still in shock that you lot elected trump as leader of the free world.....like its funny, in a sad and dangerous way.

It's obviously not fucking working, but half the fucking country is brainwashed into thinking that they are the patriotic ones defending patriotism and somehow so is fucking Trump! That's where we are. Your plan might be genius and save the fucking world and these dipshits would rather sink wearing Trump hats made in China.

I wish it were all a joke. Maybe it will be funny 20 years from now if Democrats win the next five election cycles and somehow right our course again. But probably not.
 

Lucky Luke

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It's obviously not fucking working, but half the fucking country is brainwashed into thinking that they are the patriotic ones defending patriotism and somehow so is fucking Trump! That's where we are. Your plan might be genius and save the fucking world and these dipshits would rather sink wearing Trump hats made in China.

I wish it were all a joke. Maybe it will be funny 20 years from now if Democrats win the next five election cycles and somehow right our course again. But probably not.
Its not genius I just copied some of it from what little old Australia kinda does. In addition to our 30 days paid vacation time at an hrly rate that is greater than when we work. We also don't pay tax on the first 18k we earn. Yep..first 18k is tax free.

Hasn't anyone started to complain that everything Trump does is for himself and racism? Surely systematically wiping out everything the first black president did is frowned upon?
 

PCXV

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Its not genius I just copied some of it from what little old Australia kinda does. In addition to our 30 days paid vacation time at an hrly rate that is greater than when we work. We also don't pay tax on the first 18k we earn. Yep..first 18k is tax free.

Hasn't anyone started to complain that everything Trump does is for himself and racism? Surely systematically wiping out everything the first black president did is frowned upon?
Ya anything that makes sense like that is demonized as class warfare socialist entitled gay benghazi kenyan anti-american *enter anti-public misanthropic spew here* in these United States.
 

greg nr

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I'm still in shock that you lot elected trump as leader of the free world....
He wasn't legitimately elected. It is an illegitimate regime. We didn't elect him. Democracy is fragile and prone to breakdowns. Kind of like an english or french car.

And it's not half of the country, his opponent got more votes. He had something like 48% of those who voted (assuming the polls weren't rigged - which there is evidence they were), and that support has fallen to as low as 32%. He does have the support of 75% of the gop, but they are only ~25% of registered voters.
 

Lucky Luke

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He wasn't legitimately elected. It is an illegitimate regime. We didn't elect him. Democracy is fragile and prone to breakdowns. Kind of like an english or french car.

And it's not half of the country, his opponent got more votes. He had something like 48% of those who voted (assuming the polls weren't rigged - which there is evidence they were), and that support has fallen to as low as 32%. He does have the support of 75% of the gop, but they are only ~25% of registered voters.
I understand that Clinton got more votes but you lot still elected him as President.
 

gonnagro

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He wasn't legitimately elected.
Uhhh . . . yea he was. Same system we've used since 1877

"Established in Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, the Electoral College is the formal body which elects the President and Vice President of the United States."

Sorry, it didn't go your way this time.
 

UncleBuck

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Uhhh . . . yea he was. Same system we've used since 1877

"Established in Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, the Electoral College is the formal body which elects the President and Vice President of the United States."

Sorry, it didn't go your way this time.
pretty sure he meant trump conspired with a hostile foreign government, stole information from american citizens using kremlin spies, coordinated with a foreign dictator to release that information through third party channels using secret communication networks, and so on and so forth.

cuck
 

gonnagro

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Wouldn't the people of been better off if Trump had of scrapped any tax for people earning min wage, say $15k. This means they can maybe live and not have to use charities and food stamps. They may even be able to spend some money in the local economy- creates jobs.
Taxing the poorest doesn't seem very moral to me.

Leave the low and middle alone and tax the rich at an extra 2%, Corporations at an extra 5% and give everybody free to end user health care?
How would be that fair? Why should people earning under 15k not pay taxes? They're already eligible for social programs, educational benefits, etc that I can't qualify for, because I do pay taxes.

Additionally, why does anyone deserve free healthcare?
 
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UncleBuck

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a?How would be that fair? Why should people earning under 15k not pay taxes? They're already eligible for social programs, educational benefits, etc that I can't qualify for, because I do pay taxes.

Additionally, why does anyone deserve free healthcare?
^^^^^^this cuck would cry if you took away the socialized government healthcare he receives, or free money from the federal government because he was once a line cook on a navy boat in peace time
 
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