Trump's Wag the Dog Moment; Syrian chemical attack was a false flag!

UncleBuck

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Assad is engaged in a civil war with "rebels" who mainly make up members of ISIS.
no. goddamn. just fucking stupid.

assad is in a war with al qaeda and al nusra. those are mainly the rebel groups. then there is ISIS as well vying for territory. there are also other separatist and nationalist factions.

you have the understanding of a child. there is so much information out there too. and you just fucking ignore it in favor of tulsi gabbard canards.

sad.

your fact-free reality
says the guy lecturing me on a civil war of which he has no understanding whatsoever.
 

Fogdog

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Wait a minute. Don't conflate my concerns with Russian 'evidence'. I'm not buying the warehouse story either, for the very reason you suggest.

I posted a video containing an interview with a munitions expert who pointed out that the munition was clearly not exploded from within, as one would expect with an air dropped weapon. Instead, it was in a non explosive casing and was crushed under an explosive. That strongly suggested a setup.

Moreover, sarin remains in the environment for several days and touching surfaces contaminated with it is itself deadly during that time. Yet there are pictures of people in the immediate area with nothing more than painter's masks for PPE. That's utterly, suicidally inadequate. Further, there are pics that appear to show dead birds being planted onsite. Why put dead birds INTO a cage with food and water?

Turkish officials were the only ones who got to see the 'evidence'. Their alliances are well known.

As is often the case, none of this is itself conclusive, but there's just too much that doesn't add up.
OK, you are convinced there is a case that the Sarin gas attack was faked and then the missile attack was part of the conspiracy.
 

ttystikk

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OK, you are convinced there is a case that the Sarin gas attack was faked and then the missile attack was part of the conspiracy.
First part, yes- it was designed to sucker the Americans into the fight and turn them against Assad.

I don't agree with your characterization of the second part. The missile attack was designed to make the Chump look 'presidential' and 'decisive'.

Everyone is using the situation for their own ends, none of which serve the needs of Syria or the Syrian people.

Russia is doing the same, of course.
 

ttystikk

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Discussion about chemical weapons attack within this interview of a reporter in the ground in Syria.

Chemical weapons conversation starts at 24:30;
 

ttystikk

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Bullshit

"so called civil war but really the CIA started it"

A comedian and unknown independent journalist. Come on man, get believable.
Nothing that's reported by the mainstream media about Syria makes sense on closer inspection.

Why is it so difficult for you to accept the idea that just maybe things on the ground are more complicated than the carefully washed snippets we're fed on TV?

Do you seriously think Syria is the only place this happens?

Jesus Fuck dude- this has been going on since Vietnam and long before; shout out a few 'facts' and then onto the next story.

My folks and I were there, my father later became a journalist. There was so much going on that never, EVER crossed Walter Cronkite's desk- and that's from back when the media was at least trying to tell the story. No one bothers trying to build a complete picture anymore.

Syria is a morass of competing interests and factions. And you have never been there and are relying on a media system that has realized that it owns the news and therefore takes the opportunity to tell the story however they want.

You are naive if you think you're getting the whole story from CNN or any of the other major outlets. Notice I didn't say they lie- except by omission.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
Nothing that's reported by the mainstream media about Syria makes sense on closer inspection.

Why is it so difficult for you to accept the idea that just maybe things on the ground are more complicated than the carefully washed snippets we're fed on TV?

Do you seriously think Syria is the only place this happens?

Jesus Fuck dude- this has been going on since Vietnam and long before; shout out a few 'facts' and then onto the next story.

My folks and I were there, my father later became a journalist. There was so much going on that never, EVER crossed Walter Cronkite's desk- and that's from back when the media was at least trying to tell the story. No one bothers trying to build a complete picture anymore.

Syria is a morass of competing interests and factions. And you have never been there and are relying on a media system that has realized that it owns the news and therefore takes the opportunity to tell the story however they want.

You are naive if you think you're getting the whole story from CNN or any of the other major outlets. Notice I didn't say they lie- except by omission.

Speaking of useless postings. lol
 

SneekyNinja

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Jesus...

Believing that the rebels detonated chemical weapons to drag the US into a more direct conflict with the Syrian Govt is a fairly reasonable hypothesis...

But once you start with "it was the CIA" you've gone into nutty-nut-nut tinfoil mode.
 

Grandpapy

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Jesus...

Believing that the rebels detonated chemical weapons to drag the US into a more direct conflict with the Syrian Govt is a fairly reasonable hypothesis...

But once you start with "it was the CIA" you've gone into nutty-nut-nut tinfoil mode.
A Russian controlled oil port.....China has more to worry about then we do.
Unless Russia sells oil to China for under $2 per bbl, we are gonna take it for them. Easy.
 

SneekyNinja

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A Russian controlled oil port.....China has more to worry about then we do.
Unless Russia sells oil to China for under $2 per bbl, we are gonna take it for them. Easy.
Russia can freely ship their oil and gas through Europe anyway, Europe depends on Russia to keep the lights on.

It's a Mediterranean military port Russia is after (because their ships are so crap they can't travel very far).
 

Grandpapy

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Russia can freely ship their oil and gas through Europe anyway, Europe depends on Russia to keep the lights on.

It's a Mediterranean military port Russia is after (because their ships are so crap they can't travel very far).
Kinda makes one wonder why China pays for North Dakota Gas/Oil. Or it should.



"Observe calmly; secure our position; cope with affairs calmly; hide our capacities and bide our time; be good at maintaining a low profile; and never claim leadership."
 

SneekyNinja

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Kinda makes one wonder why China pays for North Dakota Gas/Oil. Or it should.



"Observe calmly; secure our position; cope with affairs calmly; hide our capacities and bide our time; be good at maintaining a low profile; and never claim leadership."
Russia and China probably already have the lines drawn for how they'll divide the planet up.
 
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