uk cannabis laws, have your say.... please

Arrid said:

Long term use of cannabis can lead to mental problems, it's been proven time and time again.

There's people who are born with these problems and grow up their entire lives without mental problems showing and as soon as they smoke a bit of weed it "unlocks" that part of their brain.

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you have real 'proof' or is this just more heresay bullshit?

I agree with the second part . . . . but the first part seems like 100% BS.

ukgrower2110 said:

do any of u guys know what the new gov's policy on cannabis will be? coz i heard liberals want decrim and conservatives are well.........conservatives.

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i'm not sure, like you say, i know what the libs want, and i know in the past lots of tories have toked up but like you say..

i would first like to able to grow and smoke, i have plenty of friends who would like me to grow and sell for them because they don't have the time or willingness. ideally i'd like to be able to grow and open a coffee shop in town, but that is a dream, i would settle for just growing.

poplars said:

you have real 'proof' or is this just more heresay bullshit?

I agree with the second part . . . . but the first part seems like 100% BS.

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indeed, i went and had a look at what evidence i could find and most official websites all used a heavy use of words like "appearred" "strongly suggested"

as it stands, they still don't appear to have anything other than a hypothesis.

even if cannabis is legalized in the uk, it would still be illegal to grow it, whiskey is legal but your not allowed to distille it

only if they make it illegal to grow it. half of the argument behind not wanting it criminlaised is the sheer profit that will arise for the government and communities if individuals are allwed to grow it.

secondly, it is a naturally occuring plant, if there is any health reasoning behind a change, then i think it would violate a lot of laws to not allow people to grow their own medicine.

that aside though (being just assumption and guesses) if you can prove that the whiskey you have distilled is purely for personal use then you are fine. the illegal issue comes into play due to selling to others, and as such a. bypassing any quality/safety checks in terms of content and strength etc and b. because it bypasses all alcohol taxes etc. if you do wish to distill for profit then you cna obtain a license.

just like in America, not everyone can grow, but if someone wants to grow then they can obtain a license.

if they allowed coffeshops over ere, me my grower and my boys would open the first one lol i doubt anyone else in london is sellin jack herer x blueberry,super lemon haze, orange haze and of course one of our regular strains......BLUEBERRY CHEESE, we'd defo serve food, hire my boys grandma to cook the chicken, also do pizza and currys etc, i would honestly be satisfied in life if i could get the gov' and my grower to do this.

exactly, we are all just primed to jump straight in, a lot of folks like yourself already have the setups to suply the demand that would be created, the only learning curve is the running of a coffee shop etc, which in my case, i'm more than qualified to run anything retail related, and am slowly increasing my grow as everyone sais, who know, it could never happen, they could cock up the inplimentation etc, i mean just look at the USA, they are all voting NO on legalization or whatever it is as apparently they are just getting fucked over by the supposed "improvement" (although i bet if i read into it i'd find that a large amount of the opposition is simply growers who suddenly wouldn't be mr big shot naturally and they don't think other people should be free to skoke if it cuts into their profit.

probably, the only thing i wouldnt like about the coffeshop system is my prices would drop, currently a half 0 of my blujack is going for 130, im sure if the coffeeshop sytem came into place my prices would drop to say.........£90 for a halfy, i dont understand why just because a few kids went nutty that loads of people have to go to prison, thats essentially whats happened, someone fucked up so everyone else has to suffer, these parents who complain bout how strong the weed is should consider something else..........are you really a good parent if your ALLOWING ur 13 - 14 yr old child to ingest a mind altering substance.

ukgrower2110 said:

probably, the only thing i wouldnt like about the coffeshop system is my prices would drop, currently a half 0 of my blujack is going for 130, im sure if the coffeeshop sytem came into place my prices would drop to say.........£90 for a halfy, i dont understand why just because a few kids went nutty that loads of people have to go to prison, thats essentially whats happened, someone fucked up so everyone else has to suffer, these parents who complain bout how strong the weed is should consider something else..........are you really a good parent if your ALLOWING ur 13 - 14 yr old child to ingest a mind altering substance.

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hopefully shit stays illegal for a long time for you, because as soon as it becomes regulated and you get some true competition, your prices will drop atleast 2x lower than that.

poplars said:

hopefully shit stays illegal for a long time for you, because as soon as it becomes regulated and you get some true competition, your prices will drop atleast 2x lower than that.

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lol true competition, my grower has been growin since he was 12, this guy would live with the plants if he could, he has complete and utter love for cannabis, to the point were he will talk to dying plants for hours on end, hes used his "own" fertiliser many times and has almost bored the desire to grow out of me ,we would have no problem just havin 2 - 3 grow houses and a coffeeshop, with a wife and 3 kids each, perfect life. but seriously tho, if u wanna see a true martyr for cannabis u need to look at my grower, his dad started teachin him how to grow from age 10, had his own grow at 12, started smokin at 12 - 13 and has not gone a day without weed since.

ukgrower2110 said:

lol true competition, my grower has been growin since he was 12, this guy would live with the plants if he could, he has complete and utter love for cannabis, to the point were he will talk to dying plants for hours on end, hes used his "own" fertiliser many times and has almost bored the desire to grow out of me ,we would have no problem just havin 2 - 3 grow houses and a coffeeshop, with a wife and 3 kids each, perfect life. but seriously tho, if u wanna see a true martyr for cannabis u need to look at my grower, his dad started teachin him how to grow from age 10, had his own grow at 12, started smokin at 12 - 13 and has not gone a day without weed since.

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if corporations get involved . . . you'll have 15-30x more competition than you have now. I'm not saying you're not a great grower, or that you don't have shit organized.

Im' just saying that if you wanted to compete in a legitimate legalized market, you'd have to start a corporation and expand like everyone else. you would probably be one of the people to do so if you wanted to stay in the competition.

so what I should be saying is, you will have to up your game once it's legalized.

poplars said:

if corporations get involved . . . you'll have 15-30x more competition than you have now. I'm not saying you're not a great grower, or that you don't have shit organized.

Im' just saying that if you wanted to compete in a legitimate legalized market, you'd have to start a corporation and expand like everyone else. you would probably be one of the people to do so if you wanted to stay in the competition.

so what I should be saying is, you will have to up your game once it's legalized.

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thank u, severly stoned so this may be a bit long, i have been trying to research into what the government intends to do with cannabis, well it seems that most of the info out there is just a copy from somewhere else hence i have hypothesised that the government or other behind the scenes figures is influencing the media so that research into the matter becomes a formulated loophole through many lies and misinformation. i have no idea what the new gov' wants to do with cannabis and i now have to go to costco to buy more blunts, also to poplars, thanks for the advice, altho we are separate growers we usually know commercial growers and are linked up in supplying certain gangs i.e blue gang(mashtown) or usg(stonebridge) we all know that if legalisation the growers in this new market will have to be skilled so that the black market will be a better alternative to the cleaon one, i forgot, blueberry ksuh and cheese go together so damn well, gives a very nice stoney high, i feel wavey as if on a wave, my hunger is about to control me, my muscles are relaxed and im generally over the fuckin moon.

for sure you need to know shit like that.

know your competition, know your enemy, etc.

I just want to grow medically for myself for the rest of my life. I'm already doing so and it's great. but so far I'm just baffled about how I'm going to manage going to college and growing . . . I'll figure something out I suppose.

but damn, I'm spoiled now. there's no way I could ever buy weed with a straight face, or be able to deal with it in general. I mean, I've never payed for weed in my ENTIRE LIFE.

either way, shit's going in a good direction, as long as they don't take away the rights of us medical growers . . which I doubt they will (prop 19 isn't going to take away anything, so I doubt future legislation will.)

but you sound like you could easily make a living off of this if you felt like it . . . maybe you should move to cali before prop 19 passes eh?

but yeah, I just want to do academia (where you do research and teach) and grow on the side, that'd be a perfect life for me.

poplars said:

for sure you need to know shit like that.

know your competition, know your enemy, etc.

I just want to grow medically for myself for the rest of my life. I'm already doing so and it's great. but so far I'm just baffled about how I'm going to manage going to college and growing . . . I'll figure something out I suppose.

but damn, I'm spoiled now. there's no way I could ever buy weed with a straight face, or be able to deal with it in general. I mean, I've never payed for weed in my ENTIRE LIFE.

either way, shit's going in a good direction, as long as they don't take away the rights of us medical growers . . which I doubt they will (prop 19 isn't going to take away anything, so I doubt future legislation will.)

but you sound like you could easily make a living off of this if you felt like it . . . maybe you should move to cali before prop 19 passes eh?

but yeah, I just want to do academia (where you do research and teach) and grow on the side, that'd be a perfect life for me.

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i feel dat u know i feel dat, i am practicali in heaven right now, had 2 blunts of my boys blu cheese and whilst at costco i got a friggin chocolate fountain with some marshmellows, join me in my quest to hit 29 grams today.

haha bro my lungs are still SO sensitve from blazing I can barely get a gram down a day ahahahaha. let alone 29

I'm puffing my vape through my hot water bong and it helps a lot. if I take took big of a rip my lungs feel annoyed though so I've been taking it easy.

but damn the first day I started vaping I was getting SO fucking high it was ridiculous.

I'm still getting hella high but its tough because I can't vape as much to reach that epic point you know? you gotta like puff every hit almost to reach that point but at this point my lungs can't handle that, I have to take atleast 5-6 breaths in between each hit. as well as making sure it's a HOT water bong, not even room temp, needs to have humid vapor in there otherwise it feels shitty on my lungs.

plus I switched from the bag to direct hit because fresh vape is easier on my lungs than vape that's been there longer than 30 seconds (like that in the bag)