**ULTIMATE LED TEST** *GLH Spectra 290* VS *Blackstar 500* VS *Hydro Grow LED 336X*

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WeJuana

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lol I love it. Its funny because people come try to knock what I am doing by making outlandish claims which are supposed to give such a negative connotation of me, but they just show how invalid what they say is. Such as you imply I made myself seem like some old time experienced grower (when in reality it seems like you came on my thread to school me). Re-read all 57 pages and you'll see factually there is no mention of me saying anything about how long I have been growing or how much skill I do or do not have. I am not here to impress anybody or to try and change your opinion, but merely show my grow.

All I have said time and time again is I am here to provide nothing but a record of my results throughout the grow comparing different LED lights.. and if people ask questions I will answer to the best of my ability.

You act like reading this thready wasted your time by any means? Either you learn they work, or your learn they don't, depending on your perspective. Either way your learning so how can you lose?
 
Endur0xX

Endur0xX

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jubiare said:
http://www.eshinesystems.com/grow/3g-126x3w-led-grow-light.html
eshinesystem, they are the ones they claim they make the penetrator! They sell the 126 X lenses 3w or 1w WITH THE SAME SPECTRUM AS HGL (green in the middle). 440/470/525/640/660/740nm
Price range? 250 - 280 dollars! What do you guys make of that?
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it looks to me that a lot of companies are ordering the light from the same dispenswer in China for really cheap and making a killing selling them in America... I mean the body of this light is exactly the same as my Advanced... At least black star put a little sticker on theirs! haha
 
jubiare

jubiare

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Endur0xX said:
it looks to me that a lot of companies are ordering the light from the same dispenswer in China for really cheap and making a killing selling them in America... I mean the body of this light is exactly the same as my Advanced... At least black star put a little sticker on theirs! haha
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EXACTLY!
Mind they said (eshine), they actually make the advanced both series.. but advanced has paid for the exlusive of their lights.. so they cannot be provided by them.
Penetrator hasn't paid the exclusive, apart from the red casing design, that's what they have said.
Blackstar has fairer prices .. they are actually one thing factory in china/business in America. (again, that's what they said <---Blackstar)
It could be that eshine is lying and they just make copies? It could.
What if they are not lying?
And anyway, even if they are lying, there is somewhere in china where they really make all the lights, if it's not eshine it's someone else, or eshine and an other fews.
WE LOVE LED LIGHTS, BUT HEY, YOU GUYS FROM COMPANIES, STOP TAKING THE PISS AND ADJUST YOUR BLOODY PRICES!!!
or start using proper good diodes (Luxeon Rebel, Ledengin, Osram Golden Dragon and Cree xp-e), than we can talk about higher prices!!!
 
Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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^^^indeed sir all I have to say is fuck off if u think I'm paying for a Briglux panel that cost fuckin 500 plus bucks lol I feel that man
 
jubiare

jubiare

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Kaptain Kron said:
^^^indeed sir all I have to say is fuck off if u think I'm paying for a Briglux panel that cost fuckin 500 plus bucks lol I feel that man
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and you have to be lucky if it's bridgelux (they are actually not too bad)!! Most likely you'll end up with most diodes being Epistar, edison or even worse :D
 
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mohawke

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I hate to shit on your bonfire mate, but your Blackstar is most certainly not 98% Cree
 
Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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it is man there's one spectrum in the panel that cree doesn't make LEDs for. Thhey use bridgelux for those I believe
 
Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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mohawke said:
I hate to shit on your bonfire mate, but your Blackstar is most certainly not 98% Cree
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Just checked eBay and sent them an email again your sadly mistaken it's cree LEDs I know because I made sure before input the money out for it thanks for your time.
 
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mohawke

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I think you need to do a little research and not take the words of an led grow light company as gospel. Think what you will, but I am telling you they are not Cree.
 
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davoswavos

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mohawke said:
I think you need to do a little research and not take the words of an led grow light company as gospel. Think what you will, but I am telling you they are not Cree.
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3 posts 2 of them shitting on blackstar and 1 defending spectra who are you? what are you growing with? what research have you done?
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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E.shine 126x1w is $249 USD and uses Bridgelux and Epistar LED's.

Actual Power draw is 126w (probably actually a little less than that)


E.shine 126x3 is $320 USD and uses the same Bridgelux and Epistar LED's

Actual power draw is 252w (the 3w LED's are run @ 2w)

This is from the support staff @ eshinesystems.com

EDIT: 1) 1W, 3W LEDs with Cree, Epistar and bridgelux brand in all available spectrums. Standard grow lights are with
Epistar 660nm red & bridgelux 455nm blue; Standard aquarium lights are with bridgelux 12000K white &
455nm blue.
2) 90 degree bean angle LEDs with 30, 60, 90 degree optical lens. Lens can choosen to add, or add partly, or mix
dierent degree ones.
3) Reach MOQ 30 units to make your own LED array besides square and round based on same LED quantity to
be exclusive.
4) Switches - switch on/o dierent groups, it is the default setting for grow lights.
5) Power cords - Separately power cords for dierent groups/colors, it is the default setting for aquarium lights.
6) Controller - simulate sunrise and sunset, free settings for diererent time ( 0-24 hours) and dierent intensity
(0%-100%).
7) Installation - hang kits and bracket
8) Other ttings - 1-way programmable timer and 3-way programmable timer
 
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mohawke

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davoswavos said:
3 posts 2 of them shitting on blackstar and 1 defending spectra who are you? what are you growing with? what research have you done?
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Dude, I aint shitting on Blackstar, far from it. I salute them for offering what is the essentially the same product as everyone elses at a much lower cost. Plus, I think the results from this grow are fuckin awesome.

What I don't agree with is the false advertising. And, I wasn't defending Spectra - I was simply saying that a fair test would consider the difference in lens types and the need to just heights accordingly.
 
Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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davoswavos said:
3 posts 2 of them shitting on blackstar and 1 defending spectra who are you? what are you growing with? what research have you done?
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Thanks I was about to say the same fuckin troll where's ur research u take apart a blackstar and look at he internal components because I could link a thread where they did and ran all the pns on the internal components. But a troll wouldn't be interested in facts anyways. Lol what a joke
 
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mohawke

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davoswavos said:
Oh but please do enlighten us and tell us what diodes blackstar lights really have in them.
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Blackstar uses unbranded Chinese LED Chips. How do I know this? Because I know the company that they get their lights from. How do I know this? I have been importing and exporting LED grow lights for the past 2 years. I have numerous contacts in the industry and know just about everything there is to know on the many companies that we are all familiar with.
The truth is that most of the LED grow lights that we are familiar with come from a handful of LED grow light manufacturers in China. Most of them use the same parts and the same LED Chips.
I am not here to sell my wares, and I usually remain silent on these forums.
This in an industry stooped in lies, scams and misinformation. My advice - Do your research and NEVER take the word of an LED grow light retailer as fact.
 
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mohawke

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Kaptain Kron said:
Thanks I was about to say the same fuckin troll where's ur research u take apart a blackstar and look at he internal components because I could link a thread where they did and ran all the pns on the internal components. But a troll wouldn't be interested in facts anyways. Lol what a joke
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Someone informs you that you are wrong, so you label them as a troll - That's the real joke right there.
 
Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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No u inform us with a bunch of hearsay man there's no proof anywhere in there besides he word of a three post noob on this forum
 
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