US policy is 'not to defend Canada' in any N Korea attack

Justin-case

Justin-case

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Bombattak said:
I dont understand why usa saying they not down to help canada even if we r seen as a forest instead of a country lolll. On the past 17 years we fuckin helped them in their damn wars, if i remember 9/11 was in usa but canada fuckin raided talibans in afghanistan aside usa, then bush feeled that irak had massive destruction weapons and that irak ppl needed freedom and usa petrol lolll but again we helped like the little dumb brother. Same for lybia... when usa helped us???? They dont even try to talk like they want to, not even...

Usa is a country that i like to call"predator" style. Always on aggressive mode and if you really think its to give the rest of the world peace and freedom, you fuckin blind i swear. North korea is proving to the rest of the world that even if usa is against you, you can do whatever you want as long as china or russia got your back... How many country in the next decades will play this game you think?? Usa prooved their mouth dont follow their boots and russka and china are more than happy to see this. Iran and nk didnt give a shit about usa and they won their talk trash games since usa cant do shit when you sticked with china or russia. Its from my point of view the begining of a long end... American imperialism wont stand another 100 yrs... I was big time usa supporter and still r but i dont understand where they r going what they do, habitually everybody use to think " ahh its usa, they got a plan, they r smart as fuck, they baws" but nowaday i feel like the whole earth starting to realise that usa is not what we expected in reality... sadly

Only ma two cents
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Is this a fucking joke?
 
whitebb2727

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goldberg71b said:
And it can be dismantled easily with the next liberal idiot that gets elected to the White House. That's really why liberals prefer it and conservatives want a wall. It can't be removed by the next lib! If the liberals followed and enforced the laws I could agree with this statement. But since liberals prefer selective law enforce we can't count on that type of system being maintained and enforced. Sorry but trusting liberals to follow laws after obama just isn't happening. So no matter the cost it's well spent money. Thank your idol obama for destroying the faith we have in liberals following laws if you don't like the cost. You liberals don't care how we feel when conservatives are illegally targeted by our government. So believe me I don't care how much the cost of a wall bothers any of you.

Once again if obama didn't divide the country, destroy our trust, target groups with the IRS, push unconstitutional healthcare that wasn't a TAX until he figured out its the only way to make it constitutional during Supreme Court case or sign unconstitutional executive orders making daca status maybe we would have trust. But your boy destroyed it! So focus your anger with Obama for destroy trust and division.
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Umm. I never said Obama was my idol.

Just calling it like a see it. Its not about national security. Its about you dislike for anyone different.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Justin-case said:
Is this a fucking joke?
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No. You are, because you really do suck at current events and world history.

His commentary is full of specific examples and an assertion that fits the facts on the ground.

If we want to be other than an also ran in 40 years, I'd strongly suggest we stop tolerating people like Herr Chumpster Fuhrer in politics- or buying influence, for that matter.

Tex Drillerson is gutting the Department of State even as we chat, as a 'cost cutting' measure (ha!), the fucking idiot has no clue what damage he's doing to long-standing relationships the United States has cultivated with established and developing nations around the world.

Those other nations won't just sit beside their phone and hope we call them back- they'll be picking up calls from Russia and China who are more than happy to build their influence around the globe while we strut and bluster like spoiled children on the world stage.

It's time you took your blinders off and started thinking about how the good ol' US of A is being seen by others around the world. He gave you a taste; if it's a bitter pill, then maybe it's time to fix our sickly nation before we need life support.

Mrs Clinton understood this. It's why I voted for her on 11/8, even though I knew she'd be a trainwreck domestically.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Bombattak said:
I dont understand why usa saying they not down to help canada even if we r seen as a forest instead of a country lolll. On the past 17 years we fuckin helped them in their damn wars, if i remember 9/11 was in usa but canada fuckin raided talibans in afghanistan aside usa, then bush feeled that irak had massive destruction weapons and that irak ppl needed freedom and usa petrol lolll but again we helped like the little dumb brother. Same for lybia... when usa helped us???? They dont even try to talk like they want to, not even...

Usa is a country that i like to call"predator" style. Always on aggressive mode and if you really think its to give the rest of the world peace and freedom, you fuckin blind i swear. North korea is proving to the rest of the world that even if usa is against you, you can do whatever you want as long as china or russia got your back... How many country in the next decades will play this game you think?? Usa prooved their mouth dont follow their boots and russka and china are more than happy to see this. Iran and nk didnt give a shit about usa and they won their talk trash games since usa cant do shit when you sticked with china or russia. Its from my point of view the begining of a long end... American imperialism wont stand another 100 yrs... I was big time usa supporter and still r but i dont understand where they r going what they do, habitually everybody use to think " ahh its usa, they got a plan, they r smart as fuck, they baws" but nowaday i feel like the whole earth starting to realise that usa is not what we expected in reality... sadly

Only ma two cents
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Good post. It's time the rest of the world started speaking truth to power.
 
jonsnow399

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ttystikk said:
No. You are, because you really do suck at current events and world history.

His commentary is full of specific examples and an assertion that fits the facts on the ground.

If we want to be other than an also ran in 40 years, I'd strongly suggest we stop tolerating people like Herr Chumpster Fuhrer in politics- or buying influence, for that matter.

Tex Drillerson is gutting the Department of State even as we chat, as a 'cost cutting' measure (ha!), the fucking idiot has no clue what damage he's doing to long-standing relationships the United States has cultivated with established and developing nations around the world.

Those other nations won't just sit beside their phone and hope we call them back- they'll be picking up calls from Russia and China who are more than happy to build their influence around the globe while we strut and bluster like spoiled children on the world stage.

It's time you took your blinders off and started thinking about how the good ol' US of A is being seen by others around the world. He gave you a taste; if it's a bitter pill, then maybe it's time to fix our sickly nation before we need life support.

Mrs Clinton understood this. It's why I voted for her on 11/8, even though I knew she'd be a trainwreck domestically.
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She was gonna be a trainwreck period.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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jonsnow399 said:
She was gonna be a trainwreck period.
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She was the best Secretary of State in a generation. She would have handled international affairs like a champion... At least for her ultra rich corporate backers.

As much as I disliked her domestic agenda, it is only fair to give credit where it's due.
 
jonsnow399

jonsnow399

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ttystikk said:
She was the best Secretary of State in a generation. She would have handled international affairs like a champion... At least for her ultra rich corporate backers.

As much as I disliked her domestic agenda, it is only fair to give credit where it's due.
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:shock::shock::shock::spew:Wtf? All she did was ride around in her plane, can you name anything she did in international affairs? She was calling for a no fly zone in Syria, which would have led to a major confrontation with Russia. She was a warmonger, I thought you were opposed to that?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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jonsnow399 said:
:shock::shock::shock::spew:Wtf? All she did was ride around in her plane, can you name anything she did in international affairs? She was calling for a no fly zone in Syria, which would have led to a major confrontation with Russia. She was a warmonger, I thought you were opposed to that?
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I am opposed to starting more wars.

Please understand that sensationalized headlines do not tell the whole story.

Yes, she flew around the world a lot. Strangely enough, that's where other countries are! It makes a big difference to personally show up and listen to what the other side has to say.

Many, many foreign policy successes were buried by the headlines. I have it on excellent authority- by not one but two of my immediate family members with over 25 years combined experience in the State Department (and counting)- that she worked tirelessly and diligently to build strong relationships with countries large and small all around the world.

You don't do that by sitting at your desk and making phone calls.

If we want to get out of the War business, and make no mistake, that's exactly what it is, then perhaps we need to curb the ability of the world's largest and most powerful defense corporations to manipulate our politics rather than blaming the one whose job it is to carry out the task handed down from above.

I sincerely hope I'm getting through... Our politicians aren't the ones making these decisions. The megacorps and their ultra wealthy shareholders are the ones calling the shots. Hold them and Citizens United responsible.
 
jonsnow399

jonsnow399

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ttystikk said:
I am opposed to starting more wars.

Please understand that sensationalized headlines do not tell the whole story.

Yes, she flew around the world a lot. Strangely enough, that's where other countries are! It makes a big difference to personally show up and listen to what the other side has to say.

Many, many foreign policy successes were buried by the headlines. I have it on excellent authority- by not one but two of my immediate family members with over 25 years combined experience in the State Department (and counting)- that she worked tirelessly and diligently to build strong relationships with countries large and small all around the world.

You don't do that by sitting at your desk and making phone calls.

If we want to get out of the War business, and make no mistake, that's exactly what it is, then perhaps we need to curb the ability of the world's largest and most powerful defense corporations to manipulate our politics rather than blaming the one whose job it is to carry out the task handed down from above.

I sincerely hope I'm getting through... Our politicians aren't the ones making these decisions. The megacorps and their ultra wealthy shareholders are the ones calling the shots. Hold them and Citizens United responsible.
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She traveled a million miles and accomplished nothing, so you can't name anything, don't feel bad, no one else can either lol
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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jonsnow399 said:
She traveled a million miles and accomplished nothing, so you can't name anything, don't feel bad, no one else can either lol
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If you think that's true, pay careful attention to the 'dividends' Tilkerson's policies pay us.

The world just isn't as simple as you want to make it.
 
jonsnow399

jonsnow399

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ttystikk said:
If you think that's true, pay careful attention to the 'dividends' Tilkerson's policies pay us.

The world just isn't as simple as you want to make it.
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I don't just "think" its true, its a fact and has nothing to do with how complicated the world is.
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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jonsnow399 said:
She traveled a million miles and accomplished nothing, so you can't name anything, don't feel bad, no one else can either lol
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I'm not sure where IBM's over Japan fall into play. But they weren't airborne last year. just sayin.

It looks like NK is afraid of Tillerson getting their offshore oil via petro china or roseneft.
Wasn't he instrumental in the sale of "Naval Oil Reserve"?

PetroChina is this week unloading the first Chinese purchase of crude oil from U.S. strategic petroleum reserves at a port in eastern China, according to shipping data and two industry sources.

I feel much safer, now that Putin's in the white house too. :wall:
 
jonsnow399

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Grandpapy said:
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I'm not sure where IBM's over Japan fall into play. But they weren't airborne last year. just sayin.

It looks like NK is afraid of Tillerson getting their offshore oil via petro china or roseneft.
Wasn't he instrumental in the sale of "Naval Oil Reserve"?

PetroChina is this week unloading the first Chinese purchase of crude oil from U.S. strategic petroleum reserves at a port in eastern China, according to shipping data and two industry sources.

I feel much safer, now that Putin's in the white house too. :wall:
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The North didn't have the tech last year. Putins in the White House? Good I feel safer too,now there's no chance of war with Russia! lol
 
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Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index It' a long read.

jonsnow399 said:
The North didn't have the tech last year. Putins in the White House? Good I feel safer too,now there's no chance of war with Russia! lol
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Spoken like a true Crimean.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation

The spike in Russian exports is occurring as China - by far North Korea's biggest trading partner - is beginning to dramatically ratchet up the economic pressure on its troublesome neighbor in the face of provocative behavior such as last week's test of a powerful nuclear bomb.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-russian-smuggling-north-korea-sanctions-20170911-story.html
 
Justin-case

Justin-case

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ttystikk said:
No. You are, because you really do suck at current events and world history.

His commentary is full of specific examples and an assertion that fits the facts on the ground.

If we want to be other than an also ran in 40 years, I'd strongly suggest we stop tolerating people like Herr Chumpster Fuhrer in politics- or buying influence, for that matter.

Tex Drillerson is gutting the Department of State even as we chat, as a 'cost cutting' measure (ha!), the fucking idiot has no clue what damage he's doing to long-standing relationships the United States has cultivated with established and developing nations around the world.

Those other nations won't just sit beside their phone and hope we call them back- they'll be picking up calls from Russia and China who are more than happy to build their influence around the globe while we strut and bluster like spoiled children on the world stage.

It's time you took your blinders off and started thinking about how the good ol' US of A is being seen by others around the world. He gave you a taste; if it's a bitter pill, then maybe it's time to fix our sickly nation before we need life support.

Mrs Clinton understood this. It's why I voted for her on 11/8, even though I knew she'd be a trainwreck domestically.
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Tldr
 
jonsnow399

jonsnow399

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Grandpapy said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index It' a long read.



Spoken like a true Crimean.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation

The spike in Russian exports is occurring as China - by far North Korea's biggest trading partner - is beginning to dramatically ratchet up the economic pressure on its troublesome neighbor in the face of provocative behavior such as last week's test of a powerful nuclear bomb.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-russian-smuggling-north-korea-sanctions-20170911-story.html
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lol I told ttystikk the sanctions wouldn't work, i bet China is cheating too.
I'm glad the U.S. has never annexed any land. (like the southwest), or help to overthrow governments (Ukraine)
https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/05/chronology-of-the-ukrainian-coup/
China's "troublesome" neighbor is reacting to America's provocative behavior of conducting large scale military maneuvers with South Korea and Japan and flying B-52's close to their borders. Maybe they remember when America leveled all their cities?
 
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