USA goes to WAR with mexico, ........

PlantManBee

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^^^you talkin' to me? i'm glad i was born a white male in middle america, but it doesn't mean i don't have compassion for those who weren't. I'm one lucky son of an American...that's all it is luck ;)
 

fdd2blk

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^^^you talkin' to me? i'm glad i was born a white male in middle america, but it doesn't mean i don't have compassion for those who weren't. I'm one lucky son of an American...that's all it is luck ;)

no it's not. if you are born in a filthy neighborhood, clean it.

this country was "built". we didn't find it like this.

pretty simple.
 

Murfy

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the lucky man cannot feel bad his coffers are full, what he chooses do from there is called character

don't judge a man by what goes into him, but only from what comes out
 

PlantManBee

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no it's not. if you are born in a filthy neighborhood, clean it.

this country was "built". we didn't find it like this.

pretty simple.
What? how does that have to with where i was born, unless you are literally calling Mexicans dirty!?!? in which case...i've misjudged you. I'm hoping this is a communication snafu....
 

PlantManBee

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the mexican and others who are working for lower wages TO BUILD THIS COUNTRY, Litrerally. are to blame? how about holding the companies that hire them (also illegal) to task? NO ILLEGALS would stay IF WE DID NOT HIRE THEM!!!
 

fdd2blk

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What? how does that have to with where i was born, unless you are literally calling Mexicans dirty!?!? in which case...i've misjudged you. I'm hoping this is a communication snafu....
i'm saying why move? why not just make your "home" a better place? the US was built. why can't mexico be "built"? what exactly is holding them back and why can't they change it? the US did. we weren't given anything special. we aren't "lucky". we are all men. it's what we chose to do with ourselves that separate us.

if you were born in a unlucky place, change it. don't cry "foul" and move in on someone else.

illegal mexicans will fight and march to be able to stay in the US, yet they don't fight and march to better their own homeland.

why?
 

PlantManBee

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i'm saying why move? why not just make your "home" a better place? the US was built. why can't mexico be "built"? what exactly is holding them back and why can't they change it? the US did. we weren't given anything special. we aren't "lucky". we are all men. it's what we chose to do with ourselves that separate us.

if you were born in a unlucky place, change it. don't cry "foul" and move in on someone else.

illegal mexicans will fight and march to be able to stay in the US, yet they don't fight and march to better their own homeland.

why?
your parents (or their parents) and my parents both made the decision to move where they did, to better themselves. unless you are yaqi your parents moved. again, blame the people who are luring them with jobs.
 

Padawanbater2

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i'm saying why move? why not just make your "home" a better place? the US was built. why can't mexico be "built"? what exactly is holding them back and why can't they change it? the US did. we weren't given anything special. we aren't "lucky". we are all men. it's what we chose to do with ourselves that separate us.

if you were born in a unlucky place, change it. don't cry "foul" and move in on someone else.

illegal mexicans will fight and march to be able to stay in the US, yet they don't fight and march to better their own homeland.

why?
Well, obviously it's not as easy as you think it is. People can't just "build it and make it better" - there are variables out of the average Mexicans hands - just like in America, certain things like changing the political game, corruption in politics, etc. all goes on in Mexico except much worse because the situation is already so dire. If it was as easy as just building it up and making it better like America did, which wasn't "easy" at all, they'd of already done it. It's more than that. Think about the power structure that keeps these people in this position. It's much bigger than your average illegal hoping the border...
 

Babs34

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i want to voice my opinion but i dont even know where to start with all the bull shit i just read through.

i'll just say this...
if timmy wanted to work at mcdonalds, he would be working at mcdonalds.
i like to travel, in my travels when people ask where i am from, i say america, they frown.
ive learned that people like it better when you say california.
ive even said mexico, because technically, thats where i'm from.
my point is, if you want to know why people frown when i tell them america...
you can find some good examples by reading through this thread.
that is all.
Yeah, there's so much shame in being an American.:roll:

Americans give record $295B to charity - USATODAY.com

Why is it not surprising to see more stumble upon this thread in support of "this"

Immigrations Human Cost
 

fdd2blk

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Well, obviously it's not as easy as you think it is. People can't just "build it and make it better" - there are variables out of the average Mexicans hands - just like in America, certain things like changing the political game, corruption in politics, etc. all goes on in Mexico except much worse because the situation is already so dire. If it was as easy as just building it up and making it better like America did, which wasn't "easy" at all, they'd of already done it. It's more than that. Think about the power structure that keeps these people in this position. It's much bigger than your average illegal hoping the border...
where did i say "easy"? your whole rebuttal is based on that statement. i never said "easy". and don't they all work harder than us anyways?

i did say, "they will come here and fight for what's NOT theirs as opposed to making their own better". lets focus on that.

maybe they can march to their capital instead of ours. waving that big flag of THEIRS. :dunce:
 

PlantManBee

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philanthropy as the basis for righteousness. you should read some R.W.Emerson on that. salve for a self-righteous soul :roll: if we weren't using up the majority of the materials produced in third world countries and leaving them dictatorships, misery and land stripped of their natural resources for pennies on the dollar we couldn't give it back as charity.
 

fdd2blk

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philanthropy as the basis for righteousness. you should read some R.W.Emerson on that. salve for a self-righteous soul :roll: if we weren't using up the majority of the materials produced in third world countries and leaving them dictatorships, misery and land stripped of their natural resources for pennies on the dollar we couldn't give it back as charity.

poor, poor mexico. :roll:


Afghans: US finds mineral riches in Afghanistan

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100614/ap_on_bi_ge/us_afghanistan_mineral_treasures


KABUL, Afghanistan – U.S. geologists have discovered vast wealth in Afghanistan, possibly amounting to $1 trillion, President Hamid Karzai's spokesman said Monday.
Waheed Omar told reporters the findings were made by the U.S. Geological Survey under contract to the Afghan government.
"The result of the survey ... has shown that Afghanistan has mineral resources worth $1 trillion," Omar said. "This is not an overall survey of all minerals in Afghanistan. Whatever has been found in this survey is worth $1 trillion."
 

xXF0RE20Xx

Active Member
Like FDD said, why not fight in their own country, to overthrow that supposed "higherpower" holding them back, we've had our civil war, maybe they need one. Might take them 50 years but hey....at least they'd be attempting.
 

PlantManBee

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poor, poor mexico. :roll:
ever here the phase "walk a mile in someones shoes before you judge them?" YOU, YES YOU! (this is an assumption) were BORN IN THE USA. This is shear luck (unless your parents moved to better themselves). you had no choice. What if you were born in Mexico? How would you feel?

Yes POOR MEXICO! so you go and run for office because you want the place to be better. Oh too bad, you didn't pay the right person and you got shot....poor social climber. i'm guessing you would be smart enough to head to the US FDD.
 
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