Vapor Volumes by Vlad - New and Updated!

Greenghost - Glad it worked for you! Show all your friends, lol - if everyone learns how easy it is to vape, we can all be a lot higher and healthier ^.^

iv showed my friends, they werent as excited as me when vaporizing lol unless were vaping bho that is...

Vlad ever check out the hercules sr71 its the only one without the nichrome wire and in fact they just announced a titanium grade 2 wire. i agree with your points on the nichrome and all but i dont agree on stating facts without proof here is a link to the videos and i really am liking my hercules sr71. w9tech formarly known as delta9vapes is the only vape pen makers i will use. the first video is the micron bubbler they claim the heater is a ti grade2 and i have no reason to doubt them as they are always upfront on fuckcombustion and the second video is the hercules

http://youtu.be/p5kduEiRVe4

http://youtu.be/x189zJH3K3o

Hey Vlad. I'm curious about your opinion on the SSV Oil Kit and ceramic discs... http://youtu.be/QXaQ6k9Eh8Y

Monkey. What you link to is a ripoff of the thermovape dart. It is an improvement over the standard ecig in that is has metal foam to soak up the oil and a bult in dabber on the tip but there most definitely is a metal coil under the foam providing heat and it does scorch once the oil melts down through thr foam to reach the coil its hiding. They may lie and call it platinum wire but that material doesn't generate enough heat with ecig powers, so its either kanthal or nichrome heating wire.

Trust me, there's a world of difference between vaping and the burning the ecig knockoffs do - vapor has zero taste on inhale, a little on exhale, no throat feeling, and works three times better. Smoke has throat feel, taste on inhale, and doesn't work near as well. Youll know the difference the first time you taste true pure vapor.

Gore - those disc are the carbide ceramic discs I talk about in the volumes. Five bucks aint bad for singles, though a lab supply ssells them for fifty cents, and glass versions for more besides. They work great but leave a distinct taste. Go for fritted glass instead. You can use either like silver surfer describes, oil and hot air vape, or you can use it as flame guard for your regular bowl to turn it into a vape, or yoh can heat it with a torch and dab on it. But I'd say go to lab planet and get a glass one, for taste, and so you can choose a diameter that lets you use it with yojr existing bowls as well as a hot air vape.

Awesome, thanks man. I will def be checking out the glass ones. I've actually asked at dispensaries and headshops for them and they never have any idea what I'm talkin about.

I've also been looking for an atom smasher type piece like you suggest for use with a wand. But am unable to find them anywhere and can't get a reply from their website.

PS> I was also wondering your thoughts on borosilicate glass for dabbing. There is a small article here from illadelph: http://illadelphglass.com/health-considerations/ ... But again, can't find it local or online really. I can't find any Illadelph around here for that matter.

I'm supprised I have so much trouble finding stuff like this as I live in Denver, but everyone here is in love with Ti so...

If you got any links where to order some of this shit online, I'll love ya for it!

Hey vlad do you happen to have a picture or video of the steam extraction setup? Or the end product of the steam extract?

Algore - those atom smasher brand things suck. The concentrate bowls with wands that swing down are ineffective. With a wand, yoh want to be able to smear it around the bowl. The surface contact is what transfers the heat. With a fixed swinging wand, you can't do that, the wand and the heat just sit in a tiny spot at the bottom. This means you end up heating waaay too much justto try and get a weak hit that is now very burnt. A bowl and wand should be matched in size but be two seperate things. I will be postingthe results of my temp probing of various oil vaping methods in a new thread that will further illuminate I think. Glass nails taste better but are still nails, and therefore pretty useless for vaping oil. Either it gets too hot and scorches or not hot enenough to burn but then all your hit runs down the side. You can vape microhits without scofch or waste but then you'll be taking twenty hits or so bc of the tiny amount you can vape cleanly withiut it running down the side. Idk whose great idea it was to place a wax that turns liquid onto a thin hot spike in the hopes of catching some vapor off ofit before it melts down past the heat but there are a hundred better ways already in existence and I ccan't believe nails have caught on like they have. Youll get better hits with less scorch off of foil or in a ball pipe for petes sake. Surely we can be better at vaping than the damn tweakers?

Warmachine - I am compiling pics now. Please bear with me, its a decent sized task and I'm fairly busy irl right now. But rsst assured that they are coming!

Haha - your not wrong about nails.

I ordered a pair of Illadelph wands and the hot hit slide. Got a pretty good deal too. Ordered the wands, bowl, and wand stand for $100. The only place that sells it around here wanted $275 for the whole kit and the only dif is it comes in a fancy box and has a cool stainless dabber included.

I have finnaly gotten my ssv setup to where it gives good hits that choke me, but still not getting stupid blitzed like the first month or so I was on bho. I think I just need to use more. Hoping this wand set up will let me take big rips thru my larger water pipe.

i was surprised my boy didnt use foil to smoke this hash oil we ran into. not the best but when your improvising...lol

when oil doesnt get u ripped switch to oil made from a dif strain lol of top it with keef

greenghost420 said:

when oil doesnt get u ripped switch to oil made from a dif strain lol of top it with keef

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I have lots of different stuff. I do like a bowl full of keif or bubble tho, that will fuck me up. Believe it or not, I think the shit I currently have is simply too pure, lol.

Illadelph makes the right style, but holy shit that cost! Concentrate bowls are same as most gog bowls just with a different hole placement, they shouldn't cost more bc materials and labor is the same.

I couldn't find my prefered online provider aws glass, they have bowls for five bucks, but here's a proper one for twenty http://www.pipesdaddy.com/Concentrate-Glass-Bowl-14mm-p/cu-0012.htm

Wands run from five to ten each in shops near me or fifty cents each in packs online. Ebay search "pyrex swizzle stick" you'll find a bunch. Make sure you get clear only, the torch steipa the glass exposing any pigment, which are usually toxic.

Algore you will be able to get much more vapor with your new setup. Just be mindful of scorch. Just one scorch amd the rest of your bowl load tastes scorched from there on out. The key is to get the wand just barely glowing, then allow it to stop glowing, then use it. My temp tests have shown the wand should be 420-480 f a t that point (will post resilts for every different method soon), which is enough for prolific vapor but not enough to scorch. Over five hundred degrees though (borosilicate begins to glow at 550) and it just burns. So dont let it touch your oil while glowing. It doesn't need be as hot as a nail - you'll be distributing the heat yourself when you rub the bowl with the wand.


Let us know how you like it!

Hey hey,

Just got the hot hit stuff and tried it out, video here: http://youtu.be/m30mZlA-nBQ

I'll post a thread in a few days after I get it all figured out and whatnot, lol.

Looks like you got it figured out, man. Protip: a wand with a bigger ball on the end will give you bigger rips (seems like you're getting no problems there though). Also, hold your hits if you wanna get higher! Thats not nasty smoke, but sweet vapor youre wasting on exhale. Vapor is much easier to ghost, takes 30 seconds max. You were complaining of not getting high enough earlier, well, if the vid is any indication youre only absorbing 5% of the vapor generated each hit, the rest gets exhaled and lost bc of the relatively quick exhale. Didn't see any red on the wand, that's very good, not over doing it, but only you can tell if its scorching. Tell us, do you see what I mean about these being smoother/less burning? I've got experimental data to back that up, when I'm not so busy ill post the temp probe results for the diff. Wax vape methods.

One thing does concern me, the silicone mats. Silicone is not suitable for storage of lipids and is positively toxic when exposed to butane. Full details here:
https://www.rollitup.org/medicating/653916-stick-free-surface-storage-oils.html Long story short: the plastic traps solvents and oily chemicals during its manufacture, which oil will gradually pull out (or the butane will do so quickly and deposit in your oil if you're using them as liners for extraction) many manufucaturers lie and claim their silicone is magically different and somehow safe but they can't back it up. The brand you use in particular is fond of claiming that its without trapped residue bc it is "platinum cured", but all platinum curing does to silicone is increase the cross polymer bonds, the trapped residue levels stay the same and it is just as inappropriate for lipids and solvents as any other silicone. Switch to parchment, glass, or tan grocery bag and you'll notice a huge difference in taste.

i love pyrex for oil

Hey,

I have noticed the hits are much smoother with the wands. Which fyi I am questioning the authenticity of. The one wand was longer than the other. Was a ball shape instead of a tear drop. And snapped clean off about the 10th time I heated it. I then proceeded to use the other one, keeping it out of the flame almost entirely. Thinking maybe the sweet spot on the flame was too intense for heating the wand.

I cleaned my water pipe and was using that last night. It's 2' with a beaker and was able to milk the shit out of it without killing myself. After about 1.5g I felt like I was on Adderal, lol. I have ADD so that is somewhat of a differnt statment for me. But at 2:30am I was grooming my feet then brushing my hair. lol. If you know me that is really weird.

As for hitting, I am aware I have trouble holding it in. I've been smoking weed and cigarettes for 15+ years and my throat/lungs aren't in the greatest shape. But I do what I can. I also work from home and get zero exercise so that doesn't help either, lol.

As for the slick pads. I'm not making any concentrates on them. However I did use the large one to evap some ISO from reclaim, was for food only tho, I'd never trust my own concentrates for anything more than food. I just find it easier to keep them on there instead of the parchment they come in. I'll like take a g or .5 out at a time and leave it on the mat. It's usually never there for more than a day or two. I also use them for dabber wipes which I end up pushing together into lil piles. Last time I used that plus my glass reclaim to make some chocolates that just seemed to make me feel weird but not high.

Another thing on the pads and I don't mean to say they are right or wrong or w/e, esp considering I like a different "brand" much better, but Pink House uses the same mats in their lab, and their BHO has won plenty of shit.

OH and PS> I seem to be left with a small ammount of oil left after I wand it a few times. Oil that just gets very viscous when I put the hot wand to it. Is this just part of the oil that needs more heat you think? I know its not residue or anything bad as the shit I have right now is super fucking oven vac'd and winterized by Pink House in their multi-million dollar lab, lol. Not saying I agree with doing either of thos things, just can be sure this shit is well over the 80% mark and has very little trace, lol.

Buddy, i hear your troubles on the lung capacity! I have a deformed lung and asthma and always found smoking painful - but after years of oil in the bowl/wand setup I'm almost asthma free and breathing better than ever! Cannabinoids are powerful bronchodialators, unless they are accompanied with smoke.

A day or two resting on silicone won't pull out much, long term storage however will make your oil taste plasticy. Youre right though, your use of it is likely no cause for alarm.

Don't hold any dispensary bought oil as the gold standard. The folks who supply oil know shit all about extractions and often use contaminated butane like vector bc it increases yield. That they winterize is telling: in my experience winterizing, the technique only pulls out residue when the extract is made with contaminated butane. Everytime I winterize oil made with pure clean butane, nothing gets pulled out.

That bit of oil left is fine. Dont make the wand hotter, you'll just scorch it. Having oil left in the bowl is one of the benefits of the design: instead of the extra oil running down the side of a nail, it stays in the bowl till next time, letting you pass the bowl without needing to load up another dab. After use your bowl will develop a fine layer of oil inside it. This is normal. Ime a bowl can hold .25 g and be passed around twenty or so times on a single pack. After tons of use, oil will condense in the inner part of the bowl and drip out the bottom gog part. This condensate is much cleaner and purer than reclaim from a nail, tastes as good as the original assuming you didn't scorch, and can be put right back in the bowl and enjoyed.

VladFromOG said:

Buddy, i hear your troubles on the lung capacity! I have a deformed lung and asthma and always found smoking painful - but after years of oil in the bowl/wand setup I'm almost asthma free and breathing better than ever! Cannabinoids are powerful bronchodialators, unless they are accompanied with smoke.

A day or two resting on silicone won't pull out much, long term storage however will make your oil taste plasticy. Youre right though, your use of it is likely no cause for alarm.

Don't hold any dispensary bought oil as the gold standard. The folks who supply oil know shit all about extractions and often use contaminated butane like vector bc it increases yield. That they winterize is telling: in my experience winterizing, the technique only pulls out residue when the extract is made with contaminated butane. Everytime I winterize oil made with pure clean butane, nothing gets pulled out.

That bit of oil left is fine. Dont make the wand hotter, you'll just scorch it. Having oil left in the bowl is one of the benefits of the design: instead of the extra oil running down the side of a nail, it stays in the bowl till next time, letting you pass the bowl without needing to load up another dab. After use your bowl will develop a fine layer of oil inside it. This is normal. Ime a bowl can hold .25 g and be passed around twenty or so times on a single pack. After tons of use, oil will condense in the inner part of the bowl and drip out the bottom gog part. This condensate is much cleaner and purer than reclaim from a nail, tastes as good as the original assuming you didn't scorch, and can be put right back in the bowl and enjoyed.

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Hey dude, didn't mean to talk up PH or anything. I've actually found that I enjoy the less processed concentrates better, meaning they haven't sucked out all the terps and whatnot. What I was trying to say is they are well known for their bho and high standards etc. I actually, have somewhat mixed feelings on the different concentrate processes and "industry leaders" for lack of a better term. I find the guy that runs the bho lab a PH to be somewhat like a spoiled child that has all the best most expensive equipment and is making top notch shit but has lost the essence of what its all about, literally and figuratively, lol. If your interested here is a high times vid on them: http://youtu.be/SDlAfG_BglM

I'm uploading a video I'd like you to take a look at and give feedback if you would. It's uploading now, sd be ready in about 10, hd much later, hehe: http://youtu.be/L3G-o0d7nXE

Thanks!!

Anyone know if Vlad is still active anywhere. I just ran is formula for making e-juice. I mixed 1g oil with 1ml limonene. Then I mixed in 50ml vegetable glycerin. The limonene liquified the oil beautifully. When I added the glycerin, I had trouble getting it to mix at room temperature. I got what looked like a passable emulsion and put it in a bottle. I then filled my vape with the juice. The vape is great... sorta. the clouds are insane, the flavor is very light and citrusy. But I am getting nothing from the wax.. no buzz, high or anything else. I am beginning to think 50ml is too much glycerin.. maybe he meant 5ml??? I am still not convinces the solution will stay mixed. I'll be testing that later