Vegging, flowering and all that jargon

ToastedOats

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So everyone keeps mentioning "do this when vegging" or "do this when flowering" but i dont know quite what those mean.

For example, i have about 10 plants (prayin for females!) that are still young but have just begun to get their 3 set of serrated leaves (not counting embryonic leaves). What stages is that and how can i tell when it moves to the next?
 

polypterus

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Vegging refers to the period of life where a plant is growing vegetation, like leaves. Usually the plant gets 18-24 hours of life. You do this to start a plant off but you can also re-veg after budding. Flowering is usually started when the plant is 4-8 weeks. The light cycle changes to 12light/12dark. The plant switches to mainly growing buds, flowers, or seeds. Check out the grow FAQ too you will find much more detailed answers
 

closet.cult

New Member
yes, if you are this new to the hobby, i suggest you read thru every page in the growFAQs. i had grown before and when i found this place i read thru each page. its great knowledge that you'll remember when you need it.
 

buzzza

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whoa. so cud u just let it have a shorter day and it goes str8 ta the buds after like a week, no bs leaves?
 

ToastedOats

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i read through alllll the faqs but didnt really find much on what exactly vegging and flowering were and how to tell where i am in the process. It was more about what to feed and how much light during the different stages.
 

squishdoggydog

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Alright, I'll try to make it simple. Other people correct me or fill in the gaps if necessary. First, remember that marijuana is a plant, just like flowers and bushes and things. It is technically an annual, meaning it will die in the winter if it were outside in natural conditions. Now, you may ask, how does the species survive if they all die in the winter? By pollenized seeds. Just like your garden flowers. There needs to be a male and a female. The male has the pollen, and the female produces (drum roll, please) the buds, which you smoke. Let's start with the seed. It's pollenized and has a little germ inside it. When the temperature warms and the spring rains come, the seed will burst open and start to root. This is called germination. It can also be accomplished indoors using various methods you can find on this site. Soon after germinating, the little seed sprouts and starts to grow a trunk and leaves. We are now in the VEGETATIVE STATE!!!!! The plant is going to use it's energy to grow it's root system and produce leaves, which powers the plant. In nature, the plant is moving into spring and summer, when the days are longer and the sun is brighter. Indoors, we create this environment with 24/7 or 18/6 lighting, the point being you have alot more light than dark, just like the days in summer. When you read posts and people talk about the veg state, this is what they are referring to. the plant is just leaves and stalk, no flowers. Whenever the plant is in darkness, a certain hormone begins to build up inside the plant. As the days get shorter in the fall, the plant is exposed to more darkness. This causes the hormone to reach a critical point. When it reaches that point, it releases into the plant and causes it to go to FLOWERING!!!! Inside, we make this happen by switching the light cycle to 12/12. At this point, the plant slows it's vegetative growth and starts growing flowers, or "buds". Only the female will grow the buds. The male plants will grow pollen sacks, in preparation for fertilization of the female. The females buds will grow little pestils, just like your average flower in the garden. These pestils will catch the males' pollen when he releases it. The pestil will then draw back inside the bud and produce a seed. If no pollenization occurs, the pestil draws back still and the place where the seed would have been is now an ooey gooey THC sack. As winter approaches, the plant starts to die and the seeds fall to the ground. Next spring, the process will repeat. So now, you should know the difference between VEG and FLOWER. I hope this helped.
 

email468

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in case you didn't feel like going to another thread reprinted here:
Growth Cycle

Marijuana is an annual plant, which is also called a single season (four to nine months) plant. The growth cycle consists of germination, seedling, vegetative growth, pre-flowering, flowering (also called blooming or fruiting), and finally seed set.

Let's look at each in a little more detail.

Germination - In nature, seeds naturally germinate during the spring thaw. Temperatures rise, ice melts, and the little seed absorbs water warmed by sunshine, which is absorbed by the embryo in the seed. This absorption causes the embryo to swell cracking the seed along the edge allowing the embryonic root or taproot to begin downward growth.
After the taproot gains a foothold, the germinated seed starts growing a stem upwards. The small, ovular embryonic leaves are called cotyledons. Often the cracked seed husk gets stuck on these cotyledons. This is normal and harmless unless, for some reason, the seed husk stops or impedes upward growth.

Seedling - once the second pair of leaves appears, the seedling stage begins. These leaves are very different from the cotyledons. They are bigger and have serrated edges. Another words, they look more like the marijuana leaves that are immediately recognizable. The plant will continue to produce more and larger leaves.

The seedling stage is at an end when the plant has reached the maximum number of leaves per blade. Usually nine to eleven leaves in four to six weeks.

Vegetative Growth - This phase is the plants maximum period of growth. The large fan leaves act as solar collectors, which allows for new and increased growth. The larger the plant is, the larger is its capacity for growth. Under perfect conditions, marijuana can grow six inches per day! The growth rate is normally closer to one to two inches.

About the middle of the vegetative growth phase, the number of blades per leaf begins to decrease. The leaves growing off the stem change from growing opposite to one another to growing alternate one another. Also the space between internodes, that is the space between sets of leaves on the stem, which was increasing begins to decrease and overall growth gets thicker. In the wild, the vegetative stage usually ends into the third to fifth month of growth.

Pre-flowering - After the plant completes its vegetative growth, it enters a "slow-down" period. This plant begins to switch from green growth to producing seeds (female) or pollen (male). This is when the first signs of sex can appear.

Flowering - As we learned earlier, Cannabis is dioecious. This means the plants are either male or female. A single plant can also have both male and female flowers and is called a hermaphrodite - but we'll learn more about that condition later.

During flowering, males start to develop their flowers that will soon fill with pollen. Because pollen is necessary for seeds, the male plant usually (but not always) begins flowering first. Male flowers are easily recognized as they are pale green or red/purple in color and look like little balls. Once the balls fill with pollen and the pollen is released, the male plants die.

Female flowers (or buds) have two small, fuzzy white hairs coming out of modified leaves called bracts and bracteoles. These modified leaves enclose the developing seed and form into dense groupings called buds. The most noticeable difference between early male and female flowers is males lack the two fuzzy white hairs called stigmas.

These flowers continue to bloom and grow until fertilized with pollen. After fertilization, seeds begin to form and grow. Flowering usually lasts two months but that depends a lot on the genetic strain and growing conditions.

Seed Set - is the final stage and is only reached by pollinated females. The male plants have already withered and died. Female plants that have been pollinated, produce more and more seeds that take from ten days to five weeks to develop and mature. Once seeds are finished being produced, the plant dies and drops its seeds.

Female plants that have not been pollinated grow big resinous buds without seeds called sinsemilla. Sinsemilla means "without seeds" in Spanish.
 

roka

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Great info.. thanx for taking the time to post this. I do have a question.

"The seedling stage is at an end when the plant has reached the maximum number of leaves per blade. Usually nine to eleven leaves in four to six weeks." ......

"About the middle of the vegetative growth phase, the number of blades per leaf begins to decrease."

Do you mean "blades per leaf"? IF so.. wow.. i didnt realize that there could be that many.

Am I understanding this correctly? Do you have any pictures or links?

Thanx
 

email468

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i wrote that awhile ago - but what i meant was like the picture -- i think that is an eleven blade leaf - is this what you were asking for?
 

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