Vertical Tree Grow!

Hello to all. I've been growing for about 10 yrs on and off gathering as much info and experience I could in the period of time and for the past few years I have gotten really serious with it. I wanted to share with you my latest grow (vertical grow). I hope this encourages more people to grow using vertical lighting vs horizontal. I will go more into detail about the benifits I saw using the vertical lighting but for now I will give you guys the specs on my grow room.

Im using a 10 x 5 growlab tent with two 1000w hps hortilux eyes with regular magnetic ballast and a 600w hps hortilux eye with a regular magnetic ballast as well. I have the 2 x 1000's in cool tubes and the 600 is just bare bulb. I have 1 x 6 inch ecoline supreme inline fan with a phresh filter 6 inch the 24 inch one let me add the phresh are awesome light a small easy to hang up anywhere. To cool the tent I am running a 9000 BTU LG portable ac temps are about 75 - 78 F with lights on and go down to the mid - high 60's with lights off. I have 6 plants in this setup 4 of them are in 7 g pots and the other 2 are in 15 g pots im using bcuzz hydro hp as my medium and all GH general hydroponics nutes. Flora nova grow and bloom, floralicious plus, florablend, liquid koolbloom and powdered koolbloom, great white for roots, calmax by growtek and earthjuice hybrix molasses. Im using RO water with 20 ppm bringing up ppm with calmax to 200, ph at 6.1 - 6.3 uhh I think this covers pretty much everything dont blame me for being a burn out anythig else I remember I will add as I go along. Oh and please feel free to ask any ?'s and leave any comments I am open to any advice that can help me out.

MEGA

Pics of the girls 3 weeks into flowering day 21 to be exact. Hope you like

Prittay! very very prittay! What mix is that soil ya got there I see loads of vermiculite and perlite is that all it is? or is there some potting soil in there too and the V/P just floated when watering?

Thanks CHUCK! Yeah the perlite floated to the top when watering good observation by the way. The stuff im using is:

B'Cuzz Hydromix HP is a "high porosity" professional growing medium formulated for the serious grower. The light weight and high porosity of B'Cuzz Hydromix HP provide conditions necessary to establish plant growth, especially when growing situations require high air-capacity and low water-retention media. These characteristics make B'Cuzz Hydromix HP ideal for use with water sensitive crops, propagation of plant cuttings and/or low-light conditions.

• Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss (70% by volume)
• Perlite – Premium Horticultural Coarse Grade (30% by volume)
• Starter Nutrition – Macronutrients & Micronutrients
• pH Adjuster – Gypsum & Dolomitic Limestone
• Wetting Agent

Great product for a great price! I get it for $30 the bail.

Great setup and awesome looking plants! Are they Jack Herer? Kinda look like it. Also, how long did you veg for and what size pots are you growing in?

Thanks uninc thats what I left out the strains I was growing. No they are not Jack I am currently growing Chemdog, Bubbleberry, Giesel, and Ed Hardy a local cross I actually grew the Ed hardy and the Bubbleberry from seed so those took my like a lil over 2 months and the clones took me about 45 days to veg clone strains I currently have are the Chemdog and the Giesel. Pot size and specs are in first post. 7 g and 15 g. Im looking forward to at least a pound per plant. The pics I have up there they are like on day 18 I will be posting up some pics in a few from today at 21 days big difference. These thing sare going crazy and the giesel and the chem are soooo frosty its gonna be some criptocronokonolite, some def!!!

Pics taken today at day 21 of flowering. These bitches are starting to get fat and frosty. Pics suck sorry about the camera. Im looking into getting a better one soon so the pics can do them justice. Here you go................

I dont have much experience growing, but i can really see how the vertical lighting would be more beneficial. With horizontal bulb and hood your only using like 50% of the direct light. Vertical you use all 360 degrees of direct lighting. I gotta assume direct light is much better for the plants. makes sense to me i guess.

4every2day0 said:

I dont have much experience growing, but i can really see how the vertical lighting would be more beneficial. With horizontal bulb and hood your only using like 50% of the direct light. Vertical you use all 360 degrees of direct lighting. I gotta assume direct light is much better for the plants. makes sense to me i guess.

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Exactly bro. You get to use your lights to the max, although the hood are supposed to be reflective and all you will always loose lummens. Also after 4 ft of light your bulb aint shit looses to much lummens. When you use vertical light your plants are using the lights to the max. Think of it like this, If you have 4 plants under an overhead horizontal the tops get more light and the plants in the middle and the outside are not getting the same amount of lighting. Overhead horizontal shines down like / \ with vertical all the plants get the same amount of lighting 360 degreez and they grow towards the light to the sides, In other words thats how they get real bushy. Remember because of the auxins in the plants it will always grow upwards so I use vertical lighting so it will focus on blowing her up sideways. I have seen plants with 6 feet + diameter, yielding up to 5 lbs + yes 5 lbs + it is possible and its true. It all has to do with lights and spacing between the lights as well so they will grow evenly.

I guess it all depends on how you grow. I suppose if you were growing a small SOG with short plants and light movers over head would be ok. But me myself I like to grow monsters I grow for yield and quality. Less plants with more yield. When your growing big plants the light doesnt reach the bottom thats why ppl always get the small popcorn nuggz and garbage in the bottoms. Vertically you dont really get any popcorns just donkey dicks.

Damn 223 views and ppl dont have much to say. I guess my grow has left you speachless lol. Just made some babies waiting for them to root. Girls 23 days in. Working on my 10 x 10 tent with 5 x 1k HPS should have some pics up soon. Till next time. Peace

Great looking room, cant wait to see this new room your working on? as for the view dont feel bad i have the same thing

lol, yep I'm speechless Nice setup, I'm sub'd. Wondering how you veg your plants, do you use vertical lamps for veg as well? Anyways, great looking plants...I'll be keeping my eye on this one. Hope you get 5 lbs per, that would be sweet.

Thanks NL5. Its cool I was just messing around but hey it brought in 2 new comments lol. As for my new room stay tuned for pics coming soon.

xebeche said:

lol, yep I'm speechless Nice setup, I'm sub'd. Wondering how you veg your plants, do you use vertical lamps for veg as well? Anyways, great looking plants...I'll be keeping my eye on this one. Hope you get 5 lbs per, that would be sweet.

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LOL! Thanks for the comments. Yes I do use vertical lghting for veg as well but I start with one 1k HPS with plants around it kind of like kids sitting around a camp fire lol. I then introduce another 1 k and then the 600. Its very possible for lummen shock when introducing HID lighting especially for small plants so I like to take it easy on them stressing them the least possible throughout there life.

As for the 5 lbs per plant that would be great! I have only seen this be achieved in hydroponic setups indoor MPB bucket set up to be exact. Like a doubled grow the master of the MPB along with heath, and krusty with the freedom buckets. I myself am trying this out with soil in big pots to try a simulate the closest thing to there style and see what is the most possible yield I can achieve. I will tell you one thing I will never grow with over head light again. Well maybe not never I am thinking about using some overhead horizontal along with vertical cool tubes to see how crazy that can be. Thats still to come.

Thanks for the support feel free to ask any questions and leave any comments that can help me out.

Peace RIU

Digging the set up man, great observations from experience put into practise!!!

It looks like the 600 is against the wall, and your lights arnt 360 degree surrounded by plants? Whats the benefit of hanging them vertically in this situation? Just wondering like, cos alot of the light seems to be wasted.

EDIT: Possibly more than hanging horizontially with a good light footprint reflector like.

MEGAyielder420 said:

LOL! Thanks for the comments. Yes I do use vertical lghting for veg as well but I start with one 1k HPS with plants around it kind of like kids sitting around a camp fire lol. I then introduce another 1 k and then the 600. Its very possible for lummen shock when introducing HID lighting especially for small plants so I like to take it easy on them stressing them the least possible throughout there life.

As for the 5 lbs per plant that would be great! I have only seen this be achieved in hydroponic setups indoor MPB bucket set up to be exact. Like a doubled grow the master of the MPB along with heath, and krusty with the freedom buckets. I myself am trying this out with soil in big pots to try a simulate the closest thing to there style and see what is the most possible yield I can achieve. I will tell you one thing I will never grow with over head light again. Well maybe not never I am thinking about using some overhead horizontal along with vertical cool tubes to see how crazy that can be. Thats still to come.

Thanks for the support feel free to ask any questions and leave any comments that can help me out.

Peace RIU

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Whats and "MPB bucket"? and I would highly recommend adding horizontal lighting i wouldnt go over board just a 400 maybe 600 with a big reflector like the A wing.


and harr Ive seen warehouse setups that all they run is hanging in graden lighting and they pull 1# a plant. you arnt trying to surround your light with plants your trying to surround your plants with light. to me if you dont trust the setup watch and see thats the great thing about RIU so many people with so many different setups you get to see what can really produce the most.

Its not about the plants being 360 degreez around the light its the light shining 360 degreez vs the light in a horizontal hood only shining down 180 degreez more or less and the other half bouncing off the hood and then going through the glass which that alone loses lummens. I have 3 plantson 1 side around a 1000 and 4 on the other side around the other 1000 and the one in the middle is being hit by both 1000s on each side that 600 was raised and is just starting to come into play I will update some pics later so you see where she actually goes. It still stays back there but it comes down and gets my bottoms. How is the light being lost if Im growing in a tent where my walls are super reflective making it easy for light to bounce off the walls as they do from your overhead horizontal hoods. Pic below of how my setup looks right now with the loss of one plant that hermd so I put it outdoors. It was supposed to be 7 plants powered by 2 x 1000k HPS 4 around each light. When these plants get big enough believe me they will be 360 degreez around the bulb they practicaly are already. That 600 was just added for fun more light more bud. Let me know if you need me to get more technical. I can write a book on this stuff and post great links showing the benifit or vertical as well.

P = Plants and X = Lights. The arrows show how they get hit by the light, besides just hitting the plants they reflect everywhere. And the drawing is not the best they are actually more spaced out in the drawing than they really are they are touching each other how wide they have gotten I barely have space for these 6 girls in a 10 x 5 you do the math.

Thanks for taking your time to look at my grow anyways.

MPB is a Med Patient Bucket Google it. Its just a bad ass DWC systems that grows monsters. This guy Doubled is going for 10 lb plants now in this system. Its just a bitch and you can get root wrot and all other kinds of shit. Since I have not masterd this I cant take the risk of just throwing down a system like this and loose it all. I will be doing a mini experiment run maybe with only one plant or a few just to see the outcome. Ill keep ya posted. Look how the plants get in the MPB with vertical lights.


The 1st pic are the MPB bucket system

These are 4 lbrs! The bottoms are bigger than the wine bottle!!

This one is grown in te Krusty Freedom Buckets similar setup. Notice how they grow with Vertical 1k in Cool tubes.

Big dogs use vertical lighting.

That is some fooking insane bushes and set up man.......fooking insane!!!