Verticle bare bulb cmh

ttystikk

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Not sure how I can add more light? Any ideas?
Not sure because I'm having trouble visualising the space. If HID, pack the lamps more tightly. If bar shaped LED, run them closer together. Within a certain range, total light and output are pretty closely correlated.
 

F1_Grower

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Hi guys-

Just wanted to thank you all for the inspiration and putting up with my long posts in beginning. Here's a post update of my new bare 315 cmh vert grow setup wk1 veg.

Closed loop running co2 50lb tank with splitter to also begin supplying existing 10 x 6 x 9 flower room(horizontal scrog setup) where ill b replacing my two 1k watt hids with two 250 w viaspectra full spec leds along side my gavita 1k w de slim pro.enabling a closed loop system. Only other way is to now cool those lights with carbon filter air but rather air from house 70 to 75F Outside nor cal bay area 35F to 55 F rH 70 to 85%.
The new bare vert cmh Its a 5 x 5 x 8 (bath tub) and a 5 x 8 x 8 master bath grow. Second ever indoor grow , first cmh, first bare vert.
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Running gelato #41 clones, and pheno hunting for katsu in bathtub grow (5x5). 8in AC infinity intake collar, 8in hurricane on timer 'burping' room at 75F. Also will be adding 6in outtake connected to elbow ducting for vert hydrofarm cooltube to run either 315cmh via mogul adapter, or 1k w mh/hps bc of constant coolage which will be ducted out master bath vent via a 6 in to 4 in reducer. I have both 315 cmh ballasts outside grow rooms. Be sure to get 25ft extensions for this.

My first grow in my other flip room with two 1k watt hids and two vert t5s , and 12 recessed full spect/blue_red leds was great except for aphids and wk 5 flower temp/lack of water stress :/ 6in AC inline intake fresh cool air with filters and 6in hurricane on carbon pushing while another 6in pulling outtake. im harvesting first time indoor tomorrow at day 70 two wk flush. Ill attach pics of both grow rooms.
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I had to undo hardwire in the phantom ballast/reflector kits I got and re-hardwired to light fixture bracket and yes I got my gfci outlets installed on my 20A lines no problem! Also will be finishing up portable 4ft pvc vert individual trellises tomorrow!
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Have two viaspectra 250w leds (each supposedly replace a 600w hid) running at 60% , and two 315w cmh vert( will be adding a third) , the two t5s and gavita de 1000w are both off right now. Temps currently are 74 F lights on 66 F lights off and humidy 56 to 62 %.

Soil Promix HP, A&N Sensi A+B, plusb52, and voodoo juice, PPM 400 - 450,pH 5.8 to 6.4.

Open to any questions or inquiries

Cheers
Almost complete. Thanks again for all the inspiration and mentorship. Esp @gre865

Im loving 20210210_223823.jpgbare bulb vert but idk how many times I've almost burnt my scalp dipping and dogging through to vert cool tube,

Up stairs neighbors hear hollow sound from 4in inline if at 70% :/ so I can't run mh/hps so have a mogul adapter 315 cmh. all phantom ballasts out of grow room.
 

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F1_Grower

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Not sure because I'm having trouble visualising the space. If HID, pack the lamps more tightly. If bar shaped LED, run them closer together. Within a certain range, total light and output are pretty closely correlated.
See im just not that experienced with indoor so I have all these extra plants and probably unnecessary light but since I'm running a horizontal scrog 10 x 6 x 9 with 2k w mh/hps , 10 x 150w recessed leds and two 2 bulb T5 leds hanging where my hid par output on sides diminishes greatly. Difficult to have perpetual flower room with horizontal scrog unless portable. This is why I enjoy the portable vert method pvc. And that vert veg room 5 x 13 x 8 has 4 x 315w cmh phillips 4200k x2 and eye hortilux 4100k x 2, two 250w full spec viaspectra leds at 60%. With cool tube suited for either or cmh /1k w hos/mh hanging in master bath venting up through roof.

So far plants loving mixed lighting, internodal spacing and dark green foliage galore!
 

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F1_Grower

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Not sure because I'm having trouble visualising the space. If HID, pack the lamps more tightly. If bar shaped LED, run them closer together. Within a certain range, total light and output are pretty closely correlated.
I think scattered light pattern for overlay design best, and 2:1 hps, cmh for flower

I just finished my vert cmh and led and cool tube setup20210211_024909.jpg
 

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F1_Grower

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Looks clean. Why not start them someplace where they aren't taking up so much room?
Your right , its bc im pheno hunting bathtub just for katsu specific cut i lost track of in first grow due to lack of marking. Since thinning out and placing trellis to train they doing a lot better now. Some parts that revegged got so shaded out began to bud bc I didn't take off suckers soon enough .

All other gelato 41s from alien labs doing amazing given my constraints growing 3 rooms in an upside down 'L' shaped 10x6x9 connected to 5x5x8 and 8x5x8. I'm guilty of first mistake having too many plants but not guilty of poor air flow as seen by all my fans/AC infinity lol I know I could pull bigger numbers and save back/money electrical with 3 to 6 train scrog. Here is pics before wk 3 defoliation20210303_120805.jpg
 

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