very strange yellowing of whole plant

i started these plants two weeks apart the greener younger two have quickly outgrown the older yellow two? I transplanted the four into moo doo potting mix and they took a turn after that. I have givin epsom salts and i feed with neptune fish, it seems like possibly nitro but something else is going on too. I would just kill them but they are good seed so.................? they are now starting to get small brown spots on the lower leaves?

The two i bumped up into bigger pots are noy growing witht he leaves up instead on the curled in look they had before, i guess what im trying to figure out is are they worth saving considering grow space is very precious. Has anyone ever had a plant recover from something like this and produce a good bud?

space 2.5 ftx 1.5 ft.
light 450 hps
temp average
day 78-84
night 60
ph 7-7.2
plant veg food 2-4-1
garden tone in soil 4-6-6
soil moo doo potting mix with perlite added

why are you feeding sooo much just leave it for a bit. the soil has goodness/food, for a few weeks. maybe a little food once every 4 days.
when you potted on did you put in an " or 2 of pebbles for when you need to wash and also better drainage, its better out than in. thats how all the old crap nutes get stuck in the bottom of the pots and the plants dont like it. id just pull the first few leafs and just let it grow. your killing them with kindness.

are those plants from the same seed packet, or are they different all together?.

yellowing from the bottom is a sign of Nitrogen deficiency.

no they are diffrent every one is diffrent. I was chatting with a friend and i remembered i never put perlite in the first four i transplanted think it might be the roots not getting enough air?

why are you feeding sooo much just leave it for a bit. the soil has goodness/food, for a few weeks. maybe a little food once every 4 days.
when you potted on did you put in an " or 2 of pebbles for when you need to wash and also better drainage, its better out than in. thats how all the old crap nutes get stuck in the bottom of the pots and the plants dont like it. id just pull the first few leafs and just let it grow. your killing them with kindness

well i didnt think was alot concidering i just sprinkled a small bit in the soil and the fish fert is light many said i should feed more in my journal. These are about 35 days old now, my others are budding

Looks like it may have transplant shock to me,did you teasel out the bottom roots when you repotted it?

well i am mostly concernrd with the completly yellow plant the other was more of a refrence to how yellow they are

no i didnt they had lots of pot left so i knew they had no root bound they have been like this for about 20 of 35 days, long ago transplants.

just pot it on add perlite/vacumate, muck with small pea gravel, and add pebbles in the bottom of your pots, and make sure theres plenty of holes in the bottom of your pots, . looks like somthing may of happened to it. i thought it may of been a diff, with it all, been so yellow, never seen that before,, in such a young plant.
id say once youve potted on, the plant will be ok, when you feed every 4 days . ad some food with plenty of n. tom food. and after a week or so start addind 1/4 of the normal vegg food. add 1/4 more every week untill you get to the proper dose.
do you only have two plants?.

kayasgarden said:

no i didnt they had lots of pot left so i knew they had no root bound they have been like this for about 20 of 35 days, long ago transplants.

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Always teasel the roots to avoid this happening.
Take the plant out of its pot and pull gently at the bottom of the root ball until the roots are hanging down well at the bottom of the root mass only.
I guarantee that you will see a difference within a week.
Do not attack the roots teasel them out gently

no i have six younger plants.... two i transplanted like four days ago, that are growing a bit two that are still in straigh moo doo they hold enough water so i dont have to water them but every five days....way to long.... and two that are in moo doo mixed with pearlite from the start and look beautiful. They have some slight yellowing in the bottom but new growth looks great

i saw no rootball and anytime i have ever fucked with the roots if they are not visible on the edges i get serious transplant shock

i also work with a wide variety of plants and i am very farmiliar with the transplanting process

this is a soil or deficency problem i am rather sure..........

only having to water every five days tells me it may be the roots are getting no air and they are staying wet to long.

but i am going to try gently loosening the roots a bit on one and ill keep ya updated

I can understand how you would be skeptical of teasing the roots but if you watch browndirtwarriors videos on youtube you'll see him doing it to everyone of his plants.
Your plant is finding it hard to take up what it needs due to having a bad root system,teasing the roots will encourage the plant to make new and expanding root systems around the new pots edges.

well i am only skeptical because i have never done it and this is the first time i have had a problem. The last batch grew 1.5 inches the day after i transplanted into 5 gallon pots, no signs of any transplant. Maybe something happened so these may need that but i still think its because the siol destroyed the roots because it stays to wet.

i always wait till the soil is really gry b4 transplanting, so it pulls out in one. hopfullyt when you do this there should be lots of roots growing round the bottom. i try to loosen up the roote pulling, but not breaking. sort of trying to untangle.

ok so here is a pic of everyone but its in the box so lighting is funny. the greener plants are only planted like two weeks later so they are actualy about to outgrow the stunted ones.the only diffrence that i can remeber is the perlite in the soil

whats vacumate??? don't listen to crazy-mental his name says it all....... i use 20-20-20 all purpose ferts hasn't done me wrong yet. but i plan on getting some real nutes from the hydro shop. those ferts sound weak, too weak to give nute burn IMO unless you are giving them a ton.

maybe the roots aren't getting enough oxygen then, ive heard of ways you can mix peroxide with water to give the roots some oxygen might help a bit. or you could try re potting. but what do i know.