Voidlings First Cab

Potted the 7 seeds. 5had already cracked

1 of the 7 are showing above soil.

They're all getting fed the same, not sure why the first one has turned so yellow. At first I thought it was too close to the light so I put more distance on it but no improvement. They're all same strain and all getting fed the same.



My home made party cup airpot

Apparently I was wrong. No plant up yet. Watered the 4 that are up. Got my light baffle fitted in properly now. Still some light through the z channel but I don't think its too bad.

Using these methods I started out a garden full of vegetables. Yet keep seeming to screw up with this plant. It's driving me nuts

That yellowing plant,
How old is it? and have you feed it yet? Like 1/2 strength nutrient mix?

also I noticed that purple in the center of your new growth on the one seedling...I've seen that happen to a few of mine in the past. I never really linked it to one thing, like under/over feeding or say environmental issues, ex: temps and humidity...but I do know that its a sign of something wrong. As every plant that shown that in my grow, had stunted growth and took time to recover.

So maybe someone can elaborate for me and you , and can identify what that is..
When it happened to me I thought it was from things being too cold. I was in hydro and My rez temp wa falling below 50 degrees also my ambient air was cold too. Also seen it before with clones and seedlings but never figured out why....I doubt its genetics....

It's probably around 10 days old. Started with 1/4 strength for a couple of days then 1/2 strength. They're in coco which has no nutrient.

I'll have to look closer for the purple color, I hadn't noticed. My problem isn't cold as my place stays warmer than I'd like. I've managed to keep it down lately though.

The last 7 seeds I put in, the shells had cracked but the root had not extended. So far nothing has popped up, hopefully I didn't screw up yet again. I'm going to be bald before too long

I was also told no nutrients at all for atleast a week or so. It could be possibly burnt. You dont notice in the center of the one plant that purple color? I see it in the pic that you updated.. Not trying to scare ya or nothing, These little things usually dont kill plants unless they are not fixed.

Hey Voidling how's it going. What BBYY said. Straight up water with zero nutes is what you need for your seedlings for the first couple of weeks. Works fine for Mother Nature. Also the original stock that I made the Romulan seeds from was a few years old, not the freshest beans in the world. Pick out a few beans to pop that you have a lot of before you do the BB and see how those do. BB seeds are a little harder to come by lol. The eagle will take another trip your way with some more Roms.

Couple of shitty days here man, hope your doing ok

I'd waited a week or two before any nutes. The difference is that I've got coco and not soil, coco has no nutrients in it while the soil does. I always thought that soil growers didn't add nutes for several weeks because the soil has them. I could be wrong, I'll research more.

Sounds like I definitely need to seed out from the bb plants just to be safe. Would buying some more seeds from the breeder and letting them breed out help any or should I be good with the 6?

Whatever the eagle has too much of, I'm apparently a seed and plant killer when it comes to weeds. I still can't believe I did so well with all the veggie plants but so horrible with this. I had so many plants started I had to give them away last spring (veggies that is)

They did pop so it's not a seed issue, just having trouble getting the plants up and going. I'm assuming its me and not something with old stock. I'll see what I have second most abundant when ever I have room next.

I went to walmart for groceries and soil but the parking lot was packed and I can't deal with that many people and the holiday together so I'll starve for a few days before going back.

In the pics I see a purplish but never noticed on my own in photos or pics. Temps dropped to 63 the other day I think. Maybe that was too cold. I have to regulate my room temp with opening and shutting of windows so when I'm away or asleep it can get to be too much one way or the other.

What's going on with you HC? Sorry to hear that.

I got some NYC Diesel seeds Im willing to send if you need a few extra to try out.

I know where your confusions coming from, but most soil growers try not to get soil loaded with nutrients in them because its easier to control feedings when you know how much your putting in and knowing you have a zero baseline to go off of. Then there is organic growers who's soil will have heavy nutrients in them, sometimes they still deal with burnt seedlings and are required to start seedlings in a seedling mix with far less composted material in it to prevent burning. But you are right a good organic soil mix should last weeks when first starting out before requiring a feeding.... I always just let the plant tell me when it needs food. Once the seedlings turn a bit yellow, its asking for food. In your case, they should last in the coco on regular water for atleast 10-14 days, and then you will notice they will start to get a light lime green color...Then you can start on a light feeding and withing days they will living up and explode. One thing that you should be watching out for is the PH of the water your putting in, The downfall to coco/soil is that most good soil does have added lime or other ph buffers in it, your coco will not, have you figured out the PH yet of your tap water? If that is what your using...

lettme know if you would like the diesel seeds and if so pm me a place to send them...


Oh and about the purple i mentioned, I talked it over with dizzlefrost on the phone and he encountered it too and seems it could be nutrient related, but still dunno if its from under or over feeding. I cant find nothing on it in my books.. But still its nothing critical Good luck and keep us posted!

You're right, my research and interest in soil was the organic type and what I've seen of the other was people talking about miracle grow with slow release nutes. Vermiculture is on my projects list. So many projects.

Anyway... I looked up AskEd's coco guide on lawntown forum as it was written up real well. He said wait until the third set of leaves before feeding, so was definitely feeding too soon. Three of them took it real well though, but now I know my mistake. I'll definitely hold off on watering them this time.

The one that's doing horrible was yellow and seemed to be an N deficiency to me. Read in another thread on coco + lucas formula that it could be excess K. Unfortunately I have maxibloom and can't change the formula. Hopefully waiting longer before feeding fixes the problem as the other 3 are good.

I do not have a ph meter yet. I got my TDS + Temp meter in the other day. I have been using gallon jugs of RO water from Walmart from the most part since I don't know the ph of the tap water. Though I have used tap water too I'll stick with jugs from now on. I need to get some lime to add to the coco.

At least two of the plants seem to have dark nearly purple stems. Hard to tell as I blind myself everytime I look in there, really need to make a fixture to reflect more light back down.

Well these seedlings are stretching more than the last ones. Can't get them as close due to having the bigger plants under the lights already.

Getting ticked off trying to get into old accounts in various places and old email accounts. Can't remember the passwords for the life of me Really want into some of these things just because, and looking for passwords for other sites. Sigh.

If ya have extra pots and shit laying around, flip em over and place the seedlings ontop to raise them closer to the lights ..I do this with all my grows to try and keep an even canopy..I have this issue alot running multi strains and diffrent stages of plants with the perpetual planning I do.

They're on blocks but still odd. Really need to make a better light fixture. I'll post pics tomorrow of the whole setup there.

Okay.

There is a few different lighting setups that come to mind that I used when I had my cab..

The first one I did is like what Alot of people do, a few outlets with splitters fitting three small cfls to one..

but what I converted to, once i bought the big boy cfls, the 150w equiv that take up 68w of juice...Is i attached a row of sockets to a 2x4 and wired them up to a power cord. I was able to then hang that above my plants...So the light face down and above the 2x4 I made a "reflector" with cardboard and tinfoil/mylar....

Since then this doesnt exist no more, I had 8 sockets spread over a 4 ft piece of wood. I now have cut that piece into a smaller piece with 4 sockets and no longer have the reflector over it...but I attached a picture of it in use and maybe you can use the idea... I like the idea of having all the lights onto one fixed piece that makes moving a set of cfls easy . Its a very easy DIY job...At first I used regular porcelain sockets , drilled in a 2' hole and secured the sockets in the 2x4 w/ silicon...Then have the wire's coming out the other end... In the picture since i built the new ones I found outdoor sockets on sale and used that..So i am sure you can jimmy rig it any which way you want, Just wanted to give you an idea.

You goaded me into it. Going to get my laptop out of my vehicle so I can post some

The bottom of the light is 3 inches from the cup rim



The 3 plants that were doing well. One leaf looks slightly light green, all 3 cups were light weight so I watered them tonight, soaked up a good bit.




2 of the seedlings to show stretch

Hey Voidling. Just reading your journal and came across the ro water from wally world. If that is anything like the distilled water from the grocery store the ph is crazy high. I checked the ph of a gal that I had bought once and the level was around 9 or 10. I use tap water for my gardens that has been sitting for at least 24 hrs and that ph is 8. I bring it down to the high sixs after their mixed up

Voidling send you an email with your areas annual water report. I cant read it well but you should be able to see how high the PPM is and the PH....The water treatment plant usually will keep the tap to ph of 7 and under 200 ppms...Most of the people who cant use tap are well dwellers haha but seeing as your area has a treatment facility I am sure it would be good after you let it sit out to dechlorinate

That's not good. I just know the label says Reverse Osmosis and thats it. I just cant win this battle.

BBYY I live outside the city, get water from another company. I'll try looking up similar document from them.

Going back to setting water out then.

Yea It mentioned there was two treatment facilities...But i am sure they run the same guidelines.
So far every place I lived in, that has tap from a treatment facility runs a neutral ph . .. not trying to say tap is best lol not at all but it must suck paying for water ...
Ill be interested in knowing when ever you get a ph meter the reading of your waterI picked up mine for 22 bucks.

Deff need to get a meter and a bottle of ph down to have around the house.