VV is singing the blues. From seed to Perpetual Weed.

Let postie' know i said "high"!!!.... Last of the widow here, in blm! Thank goodness! Db.~tlb!

the apple made the widow, get think like an indica'...???? See what its like when it drys, if it airs' up a bit! I dont think it will tho!.

VictorVIcious said:

I drive a common van, my dog ain't got a pedigree.....Hey Jb the idea that I go all 6500k during veg is not a given, I use the red and blue mixture at 50/50 from start to finish. Even my t-12 and t-8 floros are mixtures. The grow shop I visit did the research, the owners son guarenteed the best result. I just follow the directions. My rational is I spend a few bucks there, they would not want to steer me wrong. VV

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Hey Vic,

Are you still running 50:50 with the red and blue T5HOs? I would think you would get higher yields if you went to all reds. Here's the logic. Having 50:50 red and blue gives you the equivalent of 216W of flowering light and 216W of blue vegging light (on an 8 bulber). It's like running a metal halide and HPS simultaneously during flowering. When we are talking 432W for a table, it would seem best to maximize the potential and get 432W of red flowering light. Flowering is looking for the reddish sun in fall, and the 3100K bulbs give them what they need. 50:50 mix is nice for the veg period though.

No pressure man, just thought I would put it out there. It does cost a little for the bulbs, but I would think you would recoup your costs.

jbjb415 said:

Hey Vic,

Are you still running 50:50 with the red and blue T5HOs? I would think you would get higher yields if you went to all reds. Here's the logic. Having 50:50 red and blue gives you the equivalent of 216W of flowering light and 216W of blue vegging light (on an 8 bulber). It's like running a metal halide and HPS simultaneously during flowering. When we are talking 432W for a table, it would seem best to maximize the potential and get 432W of red flowering light. Flowering is looking for the reddish sun in fall, and the 3100K bulbs give them what they need. 50:50 mix is nice for the veg period though.

No pressure man, just thought I would put it out there. It does cost a little for the bulbs, but I would think you would recoup your costs.

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The spectrum of light from the sun doesn't change, the rays just come at a different angle, which makes the days shorter. You thought the wavelength of the sun changed for pot growers?? lol

We don't put out watts of light, we use watts of power to produce light, we measure the production in Lumens.

The research shows that the mixture works better, that is the reason the led's are mixes as well. If you like you could check out the yeild #'s in my widows journal and make you own comparisons. The led light I just bought was $600.00, it's not about the cost of 16 t-5 bulbs. VV

Ooch!............i was waiting to see the cost of it!!! Just seen one of the ufo's at the grow shop, and the book for the new style one's... Money money money!!! But no heat!!!!!!!!!! Ima have to be a realy good boy for one of those to show up!!! as u and the earl allways say... "no bucks~ no buckrogers'

so when do u feel it will have paid for itself??? If it hasn't already!

db.~tlb!

I still haven't decided what I am going to do with lights, and I may not work out the math on it. It does appear flowering time is longer. If we take that extra time we get good yeild and yes I could make adjustments to allow for the extra time, not sure I will. I am running 1760 in the flowering area right now, You and Al are running 2- 1000 watt lights, you for the whole room and Al over 4-32" square tables. His flowering time is 8 weeks, so is yours, mine is 10 or more, hmmm.....saving 360 watts plus the air cooling for the lights, against two weeks longer flowering time. I can always make the tables smaller. By putting that led light over the clones, I am actually giving them more light and using a few more watts than I was before. So far I am satisfied with the results, and this will give me a good test of the led lighting. MasterWilliam likes the ufo's, check his journal out https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/64466-my-led-laboratory.html VV

VictorVIcious said:

The research shows that the mixture works better, that is the reason the led's are mixes as well. If you like you could check out the yeild #'s in my widows journal and make you own comparisons. The led light I just bought was $600.00, it's not about the cost of 16 t-5 bulbs. VV

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No worries man.

$600 for the LED. Wow. That could get two 8 bulb T5 fixtures, with excellent coverage for a 4*4 area. I just don't see the LED getting close to that. Will look forward to the results.

Maybe you need to read my other journal, telling me the price of t-5 lights, I have four of them in my flowering area and have had for at least 1/2 a year. Just the first 15 pages should cover it, enjoy. VV

Whats up Victor just stumbled upon your thread, nice setup. I was wondering how the flowering was going with the T5s. Dense at all? I was thinking of replacing my 400hps for a 4ft 8bulb because of heat issues. I am planning on a scrog so i think T5s would work well. Any input on this from an experienced grower would be great.

Ahhhh! Class is in!............

Cloning thur. Here.! 9 strains to carry on! Lol "ya sure reach out" !!! Still no word from the "man" on yur end. Db.~tlb!

Yes I noticed that. I miscounted, I only have six strains, and no I am not going to try and catch you. VV

Catch what... Its killing me! The shop has turned into a jungle, thur's morn. I get it back, clones will be up and running... With photographer, and all will be cloned to death... Then its just keep all those little peckers happy, as not to lose any blood line! Need to have a long chat with u about some grow cloning stuff.!!! Will try and start the pm tonight! Db.~tlb!

I made some simple aero-cloners, I like this one, the structure is right, under $10.00 @ Menards, do not drill 2" holes! Didn't I post this at all. I used 1/4 strength nutes and 60 mil of HYgrozime as per DirtBags Instructions. The pump is 396 gph, bigger than necessary, about $40.00 and I am using a dual air pump for the pair of cloners. Cycling 3 hours on 1 hour off, has some 3" or longer roots.

This is the MediBud, I don't know if you can see all four colas. WB hazy. VV

Look'en real good over there... Vv' i think we talked a bit about this in the past. My timer was set to 3~on 2~off... This is an adjustment you made correct.!??? "because of the last run" and fine tune~ing! Db.~tlb!

I started the timer a few days into the first batch I ran, the Rapid rooters seemed too wet to me. My timer runs 24 hours, how do you set it for 3on 2 off, thats a five hour cycle, doesn't divide into 24 hours??

It is in my world. Lol! I fudge, run it on that schd. When i get to the end and they bunch up... I make the dial look evenly spaced to the eye on that last little bit. Works great.!!! Lose a bit here gane a bit there, it all evens out and the timmer is set. Have not touched it for yrs.! Will have to look at it this time... For mini~me pulled a couple pegs and brought them to me and said "daddy what are these"??? Lol db.~tlb!

Great set-up VV. It must be one of the most professional looking grow rooms on RIU.
I'm impressed.

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Great set-up VV. It must be one of the most professional looking grow rooms on RIU.
I'm impressed.

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Thanx for that comment. I have tried different set-up, constantly changing.

B. THC R+DIt is in my world. Lol! I fudge, run it on that schd. When i get to the end and they bunch up... I make the dial look evenly spaced to the eye on that last little bit. Works great.!!! Lose a bit here gane a bit there, it all evens out and the timmer is set. Have not touched it for yrs.! Will have to look at it this time... For mini~me pulled a couple pegs and brought them to me and said "daddy what are these"??? Lol db.~tlb!

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Mine is a different type, can't pull the pins out, I always lost those damn things. A little fudgin is alright, my logical right hand brain doesn't allow for it. Gotta luv the helpers though. lol VV

VictorVIcious said:

Thanx for that comment. I have tried different set-up, constantly changing.

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I am trying somthing new with my t5's in my closet. I have my 150 over top the plants with my 6 t5's surrounding the plants Its day one of flower and it seems to be working very well. I figure since its such a small inclosed area it should work out nice.
Grow my cindy's grow!
Matt

Earl and I had discussed something like that. He was talking about back in the day when he had a box that had floro's all around the outside. He said it worked great. VV