Want Fatter Buds not Sure How - 2 Weeks To Go

I've been growing for a little bit but still would consider myself as a novice. I use westland organic soil and use SB Plant Invigorator (foliar feed) throughout the growth, although I started this crop with seaweed liquid food as i was out of invigorator. Lighting is a 120w cfl blue and 120w quad band LED.
The problem I believe I have is that I should find a way to fatten my buds, especially now with 2 weeks to go, but i'm not sure if it's down to not enough nutes or else. The plant invigorator states that i shouldn't use it with any other product as it takes care of everything, are they lying to me?
also i started to notice that the fan leaves are losing colour and along with others are getting darker tips, which to me could be light too close or nute burn.
here are some pictures of my auto blue (3 wks to go) and white dwarf (2 weeks to go).

white dwarf




auto blue




please help, peace

Don't grow autos next time.

I have a lemon skunk and a couple of its clones too, the autos are for a quicker 1st harvest. my point really is about the difference between my buds and let's say those in the seedbanks' pictures. Theirs are a lot plumper than mine

looks like you have more like around 3 , 3 1/2 weeks to go man.... try some blackstrap molasses.... one tablespoon per gallon of water...should fatten them up a bit...

You may have a little more time to go than you think, a microscope will give you a pretty good indication of how long. If you don't have on, find a 40x. Your plants look great. I think if you want bigger buds you may need more light...

Whether simply adding blackstrap during the last weeks of flowering is going to 'swell the buds' in and of itself is inconclusive and I have a feeling it probably doesn't. During the last few weeks the buds could double in size anyways, provided the plant has the resources that it needs.

Not that blackstrap doesn't have its uses: concentrated minerals and potassium, mainly; but its purpose seems quite misunderstood. Blackstrap actually contains the least amount of sugar, it is what is left over after the majority of sucrose has been precipitated out. The sugar that does remain is able to be utilized by soil biota and stimulate them, but a negligible amount of it is taken up by plant roots.

S.V.T. said:

You may have a little more time to go than you think, a microscope will give you a pretty good indication of how long. If you don't have on, find a 40x. Your plants look great. I think if you want bigger buds you may need more light...

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yeah i've just checked the trichomes with my 40x magnifing torch thingy, long way to go. i'm thinking about baking them under 600w hps, but it's going to be bringing heat issues and higher costs

Nullis said:

Whether simply adding blackstrap during the last weeks of flowering is going to 'swell the buds' in and of itself is inconclusive and I have a feeling it probably doesn't. During the last few weeks the buds could double in size anyways, provided the plant has the resources that it needs.

Not that blackstrap doesn't have its uses: concentrated minerals and potassium, mainly; but its purpose seems quite misunderstood. Blackstrap actually contains the least amount of sugar, it is what is left over after the majority of sucrose has been precipitated out. The sugar that does remain is able to be utilized by soil biota and stimulate them, but a negligible amount of it is taken up by plant roots.

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what would you recommend me to do in the last weeks and what are the benefits of adding molasses supposed to be? thanks bro

how many days are these plants?

don do autos and get a more power ful light. i was under one 400 and the nugs on the plant were th size of my thumb. then under 2 400's they were the size of two of my thumbs, the i went under a 600 an they got bigger . then to get another . but the salesman made a blunder and accidentally gave me a 1000 for the 600 price so now im rocking that and the new batch thats been under the 1000 since the beginning, the nugs are bigger than two thumbs and only in the 3rd week. of course nutes play a part in it too.

In an experiment Jorge Cervantes had done "the buds swell about 20% when sugar is added to irrigation water during the last four weeks of flowering.
Here is all you need to know .......
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Unfortunately there is a very good chance that Jorge Cervantes is full of shit. This guy writes for High Times, and he probably doesn't even grow legal plants. Although there is some sugar left over in blackstrap molasses, blackstrap is much more than sugar. Reread my previous post where I summarized various concrete uses: potassium and minerals (calcium, magnesium, zinc, iron, manganese, copper, selenium) and also some B vitamins (B6 in particular).

The majority of sucrose (including that which remains in blackstrap) is consumed by the soil biota, when present. Field studies on other plants have demonstrated that exogenous sucrose simply is not widely absorbed by the plant roots. If I remember correctly only about 16% of it was taken up by the roots, and there it was metabolized. Key words here being exogenous sucrose, use those terms in the search if you care to find any research that comes from say an actual team of scientists as opposed to some dude who pretends to be a cannabis grow guru for a magazine.

I'm going to cosign the popular sentiment here; don't grow auto's. They suck balls, I don't understand why people use them. Why waste all of that time, money and effort for such a small (and not very potent) gain. Also, your plants are starving.

autos arent a waste of time if you grow under the right circumstances. Ive grown 6 of them i currently have 3 going right now (easyryder) my grow is in my sig. but for only going for 9 weeks i usually get about 40g dry weight of high quality bud per plant give or take a few grams. I am currently waiting on a sour cream clone which i plan on turning into a few plants. Just like photo period plants if you dont grow under the right conditions or with the right technique you will end up with poor quality bud. these plants do look hungry even though purplish-red stems are awsome looking at least to me it usually means there is a deficiency in the plant.

GreenGrower14 said:

how many days are these plants?

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they're around 45-50 days

Wolverine97 said:

I'm going to cosign the popular sentiment here; don't grow auto's. They suck balls, I don't understand why people use them. Why waste all of that time, money and effort for such a small (and not very potent) gain. Also, your plants are starving.

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as said before, autos are quicker if you don't have any weed. however I recently discovered that you can grow non-auto on a 12-12 cycle from seed so I'm experimenting on a lemon skunk, which I'm glad to say it's doing really well. I thought they needed food so they got some today. I wonder if I should give 'em some more in a few days, rather than just once a week as indicated on the product's bottle. thanks though

GreenGrower14 said:

autos arent a waste of time if you grow under the right circumstances. Ive grown 6 of them i currently have 3 going right now (easyryder) my grow is in my sig. but for only going for 9 weeks i usually get about 40g dry weight of high quality bud per plant give or take a few grams. I am currently waiting on a sour cream clone which i plan on turning into a few plants. Just like photo period plants if you dont grow under the right conditions or with the right technique you will end up with poor quality bud. these plants do look hungry even though purplish-red stems are awsome looking at least to me it usually means there is a deficiency in the plant.

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I'm starting to lose interest in autos, the yield never seems to be that good, at least the rustic way i do it

ganjalibera said:

as said before, autos are quicker if you don't have any weed. however I recently discovered that you can grow non-auto on a 12-12 cycle from seed so I'm experimenting on a lemon skunk, which I'm glad to say it's doing really well. I thought they needed food so they got some today. I wonder if I should give 'em some more in a few days, rather than just once a week as indicated on the product's bottle. thanks though

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Take the initial time required to establish mother plants and clone from them. Once this is attained, there is ZERO advantage to using auto's. ZERO.

Wolverine97 said:

Take the initial time required to establish mother plants and clone from them. Once this is attained, there is ZERO advantage to using auto's. ZERO.

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I get your point
I disagree with your previous comment about potency though, I've grown several auto strains and they've always been much stronger than what i buy from dealers. no doubt the yield is ridiculous compared to a non auto

Blackstrap.1 TBS> per gal!Love it!