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Tales

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Well even then they had no permit to be blocking the road therefore they are disturbing the peace even if they have made the news worldwide. It is the same reason the police have let the driver go free as he has not broken any laws.

And it does not have to be great bodily harm before someone can defend themselves. It only has to be great bodily harm before you can fatally defend yourselve. He didn't kill him he just wounded him or disabled the person to the point that him and his assets were safe from harm.

And no it isn't a stupid decision although it is because he has a merc but it isn't a stupid decision to run him over. If someone was banging on my car like that I would actually probably get out and bash him before I ran him over but being a merc owner he was probably a business man and not a fighter.

It is very possible that the situation could have escalated as the video only shows him running him over and not the 10s-100s of perople that were giving him shit as they walked pass because supposedly he is the 1% even when he probably has a loan like everyone else does for his car.
Where are you getting your news from man? Please send me the link to the info you have regarding the injuries and whether the police have charged him or not? You dont need a permit to cross the street here in America mate. And when we protest and march, you cannot drive you car through because you are inconvenienced.

This arguement we are having regarding ones guilt for actions that, taken by themselves are criminal, but put in the context of marching demonstrators (who have opinions that differ from yours) has clouded your ability to use common sense.... which is... you cannot run someone over when they damage your property....

You can continue to justify his actions in your biased head.... dismissed

Lastly, your fucking ignorant mate.
 

JimmyRecard

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Where are you getting your news from man? Please send me the link to the info you have regarding the injuries and whether the police have charged him or not? You dont need a permit to cross the street here in America mate. And when we protest and march, you cannot drive you car through because you are inconvenienced.

This arguement we are having regarding ones guilt for actions that, taken by themselves are criminal, but put in the context of marching demonstrators (who have opinions that differ from yours) has clouded your ability to use common sense.... which is... you cannot run someone over when they damage your property....

You can continue to justify his actions in your biased head.... dismissed

Lastly, your fucking ignorant mate.
No you dont need a permit to cross the street in fact you have to give way to people crossing the street. But they weren't crossing they were blocking the street therefore you would need a permit for that. Also I agree with the occupy movement and understand completely the 99% to 1% thing but this here is people just attacking his car because he has a nice car and is supposedly part of the 1%. I am not biased in fact I have arguments for both sides although I am leaning towars the 99% side.

Also I may have been wrong about him not going to be charge but he hasn't been charged as of yet and hasn't been arrested. He had a green light and had waited for passes by to walk past his car which most did and you can see that partially at the start of the video but the 2 idiots banging on his car had blocked him when he had a green light and provoked him thus he has not broken any law as the other 2 were disturbing the peace and blockading a road although police are still gathering info. You can read this information by searching google and viewing any of the news article links but I read the washington post article. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/02/BA5G1LQ06S.

I completely agree with the fact that no one should be run over for crossing the street, but they weren't crossing they were blocking it in which case needs a permit, also again disturbing the peace, property damage etc.

I am not biased and am happy to hear anyones opinion and fair enough it is pretty intense to run someone over although I probably would have done the exact same thing, just remember if he did it too atack them and start on them why would he hang around for the cops huh? He could have kept driving away.
 

Tales

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No you dont need a permit to cross the street in fact you have to give way to people crossing the street. But they weren't crossing they were blocking the street therefore you would need a permit for that. Also I agree with the occupy movement and understand completely the 99% to 1% thing but this here is people just attacking his car because he has a nice car and is supposedly part of the 1%. I am not biased in fact I have arguments for both sides although I am leaning towars the 99% side.

Also I may have been wrong about him not going to be charge but he hasn't been charged as of yet and hasn't been arrested. He had a green light and had waited for passes by to walk past his car which most did and you can see that partially at the start of the video but the 2 idiots banging on his car had blocked him when he had a green light and provoked him thus he has not broken any law as the other 2 were disturbing the peace and blockading a road although police are still gathering info. You can read this information by searching google and viewing any of the news article links but I read the washington post article. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/02/BA5G1LQ06S.

I completely agree with the fact that no one should be run over for crossing the street, but they weren't crossing they were blocking it in which case needs a permit, also again disturbing the peace, property damage etc.

I am not biased and am happy to hear anyones opinion and fair enough it is pretty intense to run someone over although I probably would have done the exact same thing, just remember if he did it too atack them and start on them why would he hang around for the cops huh? He could have kept driving away.
He was surrounded after stopping. He tried to back up and flee apparently and struck another protester...

This is how I see it going down....

driver "man fuck these protesters and there organised march to shut down the Port of Oakland. I fucking driving right through this shit!"
protester "what the fuck, you gonna hit me man?"

the driver creeps forward. (which, I think is fine)
the protester pounds on the hood of his Benz (protester escalated the incident, protester in wrong at the moment), and the driver is like fuck it and rams the two of them standing right in front of him (now the driver has trumped the protester and escalated it further, driver utimately way MORE in the wrong).

What did I miss from the footage?
 

JimmyRecard

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He was surrounded after stopping. He tried to back up and flee apparently and struck another protester...

This is how I see it going down....

driver "man fuck these protesters and there organised march to shut down the Port of Oakland. I fucking driving right through this shit!"
protester "what the fuck, you gonna hit me man?"

the driver creeps forward. (which, I think is fine)
the protester pounds on the hood of his Benz, and the driver is like fuck it and rams the two of them standing right in front of him.

What did I miss from the footage?
Well you missed the fact that it could have very much also been like this

Driver "Oh yay I have the green light but I should move slowly in case I hit someone"
Fuckwits "Oh lets just stand here, hes part of the 1% and drives a merc"
Driver "Oh I should go very slowly here and creep forward a little bit, do you mind moving I am trying to get through? thanks" *creeps forward slowly as possible*
Fuckwits "Nah fuck you 1%ters I am sick of you having money and control, Im gonna hit your car then Im gonna bash you and take your car" **bangs hood**
Driver "No don't attack my car or me as I will have to defend myself" *Drives over people attacking his car and threatening him*
Drive *stops car* "I am sorry I had too do that I will wait here for the police"
 

JimmyRecard

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Also if he really wanted to attack them people he would have drove his way out by going through the whole crowd, I honestly think he was defending himself, he could have plowed through the entire crowd surrounding him. EDIT like in the above video
 

Tales

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Also if he really wanted to attack them people he would have drove his way out by going through the whole crowd, I honestly think he was defending himself, he could have plowed through the entire crowd surrounding him. EDIT like in the above video
I can agree he might have momentarily thought he was defending himself... but my point is...

That is poor decision making... so many options that would have had different end results.
 

JimmyRecard

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I can agree he might have momentarily thought he was defending himself... but my point is...

That is poor decision making... so many options that would have had different end results.
Agreed. Although think of yourself at the time, you have hundreds of people about to turn against you but you dont worry as they havent started on you then 2 people do start on you and if you were to not act fast possibly more would join them. It's one of those decisions which can only be answered with action on the spot. We can agree to disagree can we not? :)
 

Orithil

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I can agree he might have momentarily thought he was defending himself... but my point is...

That is poor decision making... so many options that would have had different end results.
Poor decision making on the part of the person banging on the hood. You can protest all you want, you start fucking with people's stuff and you're begging for an ass whoopin'. Guy had no right to lay hands on that car, and the driver was prolly already freaked. Bad decision making? Yeah, vandalism and violence is pretty poor decision making on the part of the small groups of protesters engaging in such activity.
 

Tales

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Poor decision making on the part of the person banging on the hood. You can protest all you want, you start fucking with people's stuff and you're begging for an ass whoopin'. Guy had no right to lay hands on that car, and the driver was prolly already freaked. Bad decision making?
Yes

Yeah, vandalism and violence is pretty poor decision making on the part of the small groups of protesters engaging in such activity.
You lost me there and changed subjects to vandals and violence.

I would have sided with the driver if he got out and beat the protesters ass for fucking with his car... but again, the beating wouldnt be legal, just as running him over wasnt legal.

What the fuck was he driving through a fucking protest for anyways.... smart people avoid that kind of shit unless they are involved in some way... as a protester or opponent.

You cant cause great bodily harm to a person who is causing minor property damage to your car.... ask an attorney... or a cop... or a judge....

Like I said we will see what happens, but I cant see that being justifiable.... you have to make a lot assumptions to justify the drivers actions.
 

Tales

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Agreed. Although think of yourself at the time, you have hundreds of people about to turn against you but you dont worry as they havent started on you then 2 people do start on you and if you were to not act fast possibly more would join them. It's one of those decisions which can only be answered with action on the spot. We can agree to disagree can we not? :)
Agreed :leaf:
 

Orithil

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Yes



You lost me there and changed subjects to vandals and violence.

I would have sided with the driver if he got out and beat the protesters ass for fucking with his car... but again, the beating wouldnt be legal, just as running him over wasnt legal.

What the fuck was he driving through a fucking protest for anyways.... smart people avoid that kind of shit unless they are involved in some way... as a protester or opponent.

You cant cause great bodily harm to a person who is causing minor property damage to your car.... ask an attorney... or a cop... or a judge....

Like I said we will see what happens, but I cant see that being justifiable.... you have to make a lot assumptions to justify the drivers actions.
Vandlas and violence as in, if these elements weren't even present, no one would've beaten on a car and scared someone and provoked a reaction, it's a chain of events.
 

Tales

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Vandlas and violence as in, if these elements weren't even present, no one would've beaten on a car and scared someone and provoked a reaction, it's a chain of events.
Perhaps...

Although, thats still another topic, as some would attempt to justify the use of violence and to a lesser degree vandalism... they would argue that violence is a necessary evil to effect change at this stage of the game... that, it is ultimately going to result in violent conflict before substantial change comes... not exactly my POV.

What ever course the Occupy movement ultimately takes, I certainly hope it will be done as non-violently as possible... I hope society will still slightly resemble the society we live in now... just completely different than it is now... i know
 

Orithil

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Perhaps...

Although, thats still another topic, as some would attempt to justify the use of violence and to a lesser degree vandalism... they would argue that violence is a necessary evil to effect change at this stage of the game... that, it is ultimately going to result in violent conflict before substantial change comes... not exactly my POV.

What ever course the Occupy movement ultimately takes, I certainly hope it will be done as non-violently as possible... I hope society will still slightly resemble the society we live in now... just completely different than it is now... i know
Eh, it's one of those unique situations where it has to be determined through careful experimentation if their opponent can be reasoned with, allowing them to take the higher path of non-violent change via protest..or if their enemy is so determined in their cause that a degradation into violence becomes necessary for any future generations to actual see any of the changes they wish to effect. It's really that simple, what do you want...and what are you willing to pay for it? Even without capitalism, or banks, or stock exchanges and retail stores...everything has a price.
 

Tales

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Eh, it's one of those unique situations where it has to be determined through careful experimentation if their opponent can be reasoned with, allowing them to take the higher path of non-violent change via protest..or if their enemy is so determined in their cause that a degradation into violence becomes necessary for any future generations to actual see any of the changes they wish to effect. It's really that simple, what do you want...and what are you willing to pay for it? Even without capitalism, or banks, or stock exchanges and retail stores...everything has a price.
Sounds like you, imho, have a grasp on things.
 

jonblaze420

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Whose going to get out of their car and target one person who is banging on the hood of your car when they have 300 friends surrounding them?

C'mon man. Best thing the driver could have done was stopped and whipped out his cell phone when the guy started banging on his car. Called 911, said there's an armed man attempting to break into my car and kill me and hang up. Then you can do whatever the fuck you want to protect yourself.
 

fdd2blk

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dude DESERVED to be runned over. he STOPPED in the middle of the road to try to be a badass and fuck with a moving vehicle, which included destruction of private property. fuck with the bull and you get the horns.

wtf was he trying to prove to begin with? 2 more steps forward and the car would have passed and nothing would have ever happened. must have been a BIG BANKER driving.

punk ass bitches dragging their feet while crossing the street. i can't tell you how many times I'VE wanted to plow a few down. hope dude learned his lesson. :)

i would have claimed i "was in fear for my life", and simply kept going. :hump:
 

Total Head

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motorist rights now! shouldn't have floored it like that but god damn, fucking pedestrians think they own the fucking world. my state doesn't even give out jaywalking tickets. people think they can just run out in traffic like retards and then blame everyone else. like that idiot who got run over by the ice cream truck while dancing. that guy got fucking PAID. he should have had to pay the ice cream truck for lost wages and be forced to take a mental competencey exam with the results made public. that would have been justice. cunt pedestrians should be held accountable, period.
 

CR500ROOST

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ive seen a worse on real tv or someshit on channel 49 where this guys does that to a whole crowd.It reminded me of the simpson episode were mr burns did it to a crowd.
 

fdd2blk

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dude in Brazil did it to a bunch of cyclists.

[video=youtube;l45AS1Wynbc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l45AS1Wynbc[/video]
 
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