We Must Separate Fact From Fiction in the Cannabis Debate

VIANARCHRIS

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Conversations about cannabis policy are heating up. So it's no surprise that we suddenly seem immersed in claims and counterclaims on a slew of topics related to cannabis use and regulation.

Cannabis is as addictive as heroin. Cannabis causes schizophrenia. Cannabis regulation leads to increased traffic fatalities. These are just some of the examples that seem to pop up, again and again, in news articles and online. They sound true, perhaps because they are repeated so many times, and also because they are often said to be based on scientific evidence.

In the UK, the Telegraph even ran the following headline: "Cannabis as addictive as heroin, major new study finds." On its surface, this claim reads as if it were backed by scientific evidence. But is it?

The International Centre for Science in Drug Policy has tasked itself with determining the strength of scientific support for such claims. Over the past year, we've been working diligently on scanning the news media and online conversations about cannabis to identify the most oft-repeated or high-profile claims -- including the ones above -- related to its use and regulation.

We narrowed the list down to 13 by reviewing media reports, government announcements, and monitoring online discussions on cannabis. We then performed comprehensive scientific reviews of all of the relevant peer-reviewed published research. As our new reports explain, we found that not one of the claims was strongly supported by scientific evidence.

For example, the science does not, in fact, suggest that cannabis is as addictive as heroin. Rather, cannabis dependence is estimated to occur in less than one in ten people who use cannabis across their entire lifetimes. Rates of lifetime dependence to heroin, by contrast, are about one in four.

Does cannabis use cause schizophrenia? While studies have shown that cannabis use is associated with schizophrenia, this is a very different claim. Scientists suggest that people at risk of schizophrenia might actually use cannabis to mitigate early symptoms of the condition, and that this is the reason for the association. The claim, then, confuses correlation with causation.

Furthermore, if cannabis use caused schizophrenia, we would presumably see changes in schizophrenia rates based on levels of cannabis use. But during a period when cannabis use increased fourfold in the UK (1970-2010), the incidence of schizophrenia remained essentially stable.

Does cannabis regulation lead to more traffic fatalities as a result of people driving while stoned? In Colorado, recreational cannabis use and possession was regulated in 2012. Since then, traffic fatality rates have been below the yearly average seen over the past decade (i.e., since 2002). Of course, we don't know what kind of traffic fatality rates we'll see in the coming years in Colorado and other places that have regulated cannabis. But at present, there isn't any evidence to suggest that regulating cannabis will lead to more people involved in deadly car crashes.

These are only a few of the examples reviewed in the reports. The main conclusion is that, for the most part, the global conversation around cannabis policy is mired in unscientific claims. And that can have serious consequences for the effectiveness -- and potential harms -- of cannabis policies in many countries.

In Canada, for instance, a federal election is set for the fall, and cannabis regulation has been front and center, with the current conservative government frequently advocating for a "tough on crime" approach. Tellingly, the Canadian government's production of anticannabis public service announcements recently drew the ire of the country's main physician group, the Canadian Medical Association, which refused to endorse the so-called "educational campaign" because it believed the ads were serving political -- rather than educational -- goals.

In the United States and elsewhere, third-party advocacy groups continue to spread disinformation about cannabis. Kevin Sabet, director of Smart Approaches to Marijuana, an antiregulation group, stated on CNN that cannabis "is a drug that can result [in] serious, long-term consequences, like schizophrenia," a claim that, as described above, is not backed by science.

The dangers of masquerading falsities about cannabis as scientific evidence are serious: if the general public and our policymakers can't distinguish between what is true or false, how can we expect to develop effective, evidence-based approaches to control cannabis?

Our new reports will help to separate fact from fiction. Given the rapid movement on cannabis regulation that we're witnessing across the world, and the upcoming United Nations General Assembly Special Session on Drugs, it's more important than ever to make sure the truth about cannabis use and regulation is publicly available.

Written by Dr. Dan Werb, Director of the International Centre for Science in Drug Policy
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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When the 1%ers figure out a way to get control of the industry, the propaganda will change to being more positive. Personally, I use Cannabis and believe the medicinal properties help with my anxiety issues. It also helps me sleep. From about 16 to 30 years old I smoked pot daily. Often, 24/7 even at work, driving, I basically always was stoned. I quit until about 44. I've been smoking pretty steady for about the last 6 years. I often take breaks of between weeks to months. When the supply is plentiful, I find myself taking days off without even thinking about it. But, if the supply is low or I run out without a plan to chill on it for a while, forced to quit, I find myself jonesing big time. Yet, after a week or so the cravings subside. Month or so I stop thinking about it so much.

I dunno. I consider that pot does have the potential to become a very bad habit. Not like cigs tho, which I find to be addictive as a mofo. Never tried heroine, never will, but in my 20's I did a lot of pills and such. I discovered that I have a very addictive personality and I could have easily become strung out to the streets. So, I quit using pills coke or whatever 100% and have never gone back under no circumstances even when offered for free.

But, I consider my circumstances to be unique to me and not everyone will become instantly addicted like me. I have a friend who can do pills, crack, coke whatever and he will buy what he intends to use over say a weekend. When the stash is gone he just goes back to normal life and may not touch whatever again for weeks, or even months. I don't think he does that anymore tho.

Anyway, along with becoming a very bad habit, I also consider the medicinal uses of weed. Some people may need it for pain, cancer or whatever and may become chronic users. If it helps to make their quality of life a little better I'm all for it. But, you're also gonna have the potheads like I was who go all out 24/7. They blow up their tolerance with extracts and umm. Just kinda live the pot head life. Speaking of extracts, I think they can also be dangerous to a newer user. I don't really advocate for extracts except to more severe medicinal patients.

But, I'm not judging. Perhaps a pot head is simply a person with undiagnosed mental health issues and the pot just helps them survive daily life. I dunno.

Anyway, I don't recommend to people to smoke pot. I know plenty of people in the world who don't smoke it, don't want to smoke it, and get along just fine without it. I do advocate choice, but smoking pot is not really something I consider as an achievement in life.

I smoke weed in the evenings and on weekends. I don't drive high at all. I don't push my habit off on other people. I would like to consider myself a responsible user.

When the 1%ers figure out how to corner the market and push out the smaller growers. The perception will change. some states, counties etc will not change. It will remain an illegal substance. I feel it's become to big for the Feds to continue the debate. Sooner or later they will throw up their arms and capitulate. Illegal or not, it's too popular and accepted. Like when my stash is running out, I jones harder I guess just because I feel I should have a choice. So will it be and especially in areas where it is legal and accepted, the people(normal every day citizens) will not stand for it being taken away again. This ain't North Korea.
 

Gmack420

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When the 1%ers figure out a way to get control of the industry, the propaganda will change to being more positive. Personally, I use Cannabis and believe the medicinal properties help with my anxiety issues. It also helps me sleep. From about 16 to 30 years old I smoked pot daily. Often, 24/7 even at work, driving, I basically always was stoned. I quit until about 44. I've been smoking pretty steady for about the last 6 years. I often take breaks of between weeks to months. When the supply is plentiful, I find myself taking days off without even thinking about it. But, if the supply is low or I run out without a plan to chill on it for a while, forced to quit, I find myself jonesing big time. Yet, after a week or so the cravings subside. Month or so I stop thinking about it so much.

I dunno. I consider that pot does have the potential to become a very bad habit. Not like cigs tho, which I find to be addictive as a mofo. Never tried heroine, never will, but in my 20's I did a lot of pills and such. I discovered that I have a very addictive personality and I could have easily become strung out to the streets. So, I quit using pills coke or whatever 100% and have never gone back under no circumstances even when offered for free.

But, I consider my circumstances to be unique to me and not everyone will become instantly addicted like me. I have a friend who can do pills, crack, coke whatever and he will buy what he intends to use over say a weekend. When the stash is gone he just goes back to normal life and may not touch whatever again for weeks, or even months. I don't think he does that anymore tho.

Anyway, along with becoming a very bad habit, I also consider the medicinal uses of weed. Some people may need it for pain, cancer or whatever and may become chronic users. If it helps to make their quality of life a little better I'm all for it. But, you're also gonna have the potheads like I was who go all out 24/7. They blow up their tolerance with extracts and umm. Just kinda live the pot head life. Speaking of extracts, I think they can also be dangerous to a newer user. I don't really advocate for extracts except to more severe medicinal patients.

But, I'm not judging. Perhaps a pot head is simply a person with undiagnosed mental health issues and the pot just helps them survive daily life. I dunno.

Anyway, I don't recommend to people to smoke pot. I know plenty of people in the world who don't smoke it, don't want to smoke it, and get along just fine without it. I do advocate choice, but smoking pot is not really something I consider as an achievement in life.

I smoke weed in the evenings and on weekends. I don't drive high at all. I don't push my habit off on other people. I would like to consider myself a responsible user.

When the 1%ers figure out how to corner the market and push out the smaller growers. The perception will change. some states, counties etc will not change. It will remain an illegal substance. I feel it's become to big for the Feds to continue the debate. Sooner or later they will throw up their arms and capitulate. Illegal or not, it's too popular and accepted. Like when my stash is running out, I jones harder I guess just because I feel I should have a choice. So will it be and especially in areas where it is legal and accepted, the people(normal every day citizens) will not stand for it being taken away again. This ain't North Korea.
Lol I think most medicinal users are daily users as our medical conditions don't support the quit for a week or month like you. Chronic pain will always be there and mmj daily in huge dosages provides relief and won't kill you. Name me one other painkiller that has the same death rate. And you do build up a tolerance so driving is now safer while medicated then when not for many of us. And I don't get this bit you said about not recommending smoking pot? lol wat? This is a medical marijuana forum we all fuckng smoke pot. Umm you went through the wrong door man. Just back out slowly. And just for reality to rear its ugly head. Pot is grown and widly used in North Korea. It's not even considered illigal.
 
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GrowUrOwnDank

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I was addressing points. And no, I am not a doctor so I don't recommend pot. And neither should you unless you have the proper credentials.
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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I use it daily to avoid taking 16 pills each of which has the possibly to end my life. So yeah I kind of know exactly what I'm talking about.
Like I said. I addressed the points including medicinal. No, I am not going to readress those points for the sake of argument. I think it is tragic that whatever your health issue requires you to medicate. And I wish the medical communities all over the world would use marihuana as an alternative to pills. None of this is relevant to arguing my post. You just wanna argue.
 

Gmack420

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Like I said. I addressed the points including medicinal. No, I am not going to readress those points for the sake of argument. I think it is tragic that whatever your health issue requires you to medicate. And I wish the medical communities all over the world would use marihuana as an alternative to pills. None of this is relevant to arguing my post. You just wanna argue.
Umm your posting in the Canadian medical marihuana section so the points yours trying to make are moot as they don't really apply to everyone here. Also just your standpoint from a recreational user viewpoint is just plain wrong. I don't disagree with you I, just pointing out what you're saying has no factual bases to back up your points. That's all not looking for a fight.
 

doingdishes

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Like I said. I addressed the points including medicinal. No, I am not going to readress those points for the sake of argument. I think it is tragic that whatever your health issue requires you to medicate. And I wish the medical communities all over the world would use marihuana as an alternative to pills. None of this is relevant to arguing my post. You just wanna argue.
you're saying you don't recommend MMJ on a medical MMJ forum...??? I WOULD recommend it for numerous things as opposed to pharma.
patients are having a hard time to get a Dr to sign their paperwork and/or paying hundreds of dollars for a MMJ friendly Dr and you are agreeing with them??
very odd for sure.....
I am very pro MMJ so i don't see things the same way at all
 
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