very interesting Earl.... which is the cause of conversion facator? so, IYHO a TDS reader is much better than reading EC value, right? I have a EC value of 1.8, how can I convert it to PPM???
What are your nute PPM levels everyone?
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very interesting Earl.... which is the cause of conversion facator? so, IYHO a TDS reader is much better than reading EC value, right? I have a EC value of 1.8, how can I convert it to PPM???
4maggio
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Earl
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Being an old airline pilot,
I am used to paying attention to the gauges.
I am a little OCD about keeping the number where I want them.
I grew for quite a while without tds.
Once you have your particular strain dialed in,
tds is just a reassuring number,
when you glance at the gauge.
Of course for stoners,
a meter is sometimes a saviour,
like when you forget to replace the nutes,
and you thought you did,
but when you look at the meter it reads 50ppm,
you might think to yourself,
"I guess I haven't got that done yet."
The main reason I use the tds meter
is to save money.
I knew you'd ask.
First example is I use less nutes.
Second I taper the tds up and down
as the plant reaches each phase of it's life.
Third is dialing in a new strain.
I hate tip burn on my plants.
If you notice how the organic guys are so certain,
that there's has the best flavor and buzz.
Well, they are right about the flavor, most of the time.
The flavor is made up of chemicals that the plant mfg.
Chemicals from your nutes
burn inside the cell when they are too concentrated,
and in that chemical fire
the flavor is changed forever.
Tip burn is just an indication,
that the damage is already done.
If your weed taste like hay,
it can be genetic,
but it's mostly due to overfeeding.
.
I am used to paying attention to the gauges.
I am a little OCD about keeping the number where I want them.
I grew for quite a while without tds.
Once you have your particular strain dialed in,
tds is just a reassuring number,
when you glance at the gauge.
Of course for stoners,
a meter is sometimes a saviour,
like when you forget to replace the nutes,
and you thought you did,
but when you look at the meter it reads 50ppm,
you might think to yourself,
"I guess I haven't got that done yet."
The main reason I use the tds meter
is to save money.
I knew you'd ask.
First example is I use less nutes.
Second I taper the tds up and down
as the plant reaches each phase of it's life.
Third is dialing in a new strain.
I hate tip burn on my plants.
If you notice how the organic guys are so certain,
that there's has the best flavor and buzz.
Well, they are right about the flavor, most of the time.
The flavor is made up of chemicals that the plant mfg.
Chemicals from your nutes
burn inside the cell when they are too concentrated,
and in that chemical fire
the flavor is changed forever.
Tip burn is just an indication,
that the damage is already done.
If your weed taste like hay,
it can be genetic,
but it's mostly due to overfeeding.
.
jointmcfatty
Well-Known Member
A couple of my buddies are impatient after the harvest and can't wait to smoke their stuff. They will put it in a bag when the stem is still flexible. I noticed that definitely makes a bad hay smell. I keep telling them what is causing it, but they do it anyways. And yet they seem to always ask how I get my buds to smell and burn so perfect. I just laugh at the stoners LOL
mane2008
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i never heard of it tasting like hay cause of dat only cause if you cant wait to smoke and dry it like shit. Using chem nutes n not flushing will make it have a small chem tatse though. Sweet leaf takes care of that for me. there is no genetic weed hay.
I smoke good and bad on a daily basis and even shit weed don't tatse like hay cause my homeboy dry his well.
I smoke good and bad on a daily basis and even shit weed don't tatse like hay cause my homeboy dry his well.
Mahstakilla
Active Member
I run GH nutes about 900-1200 thru first 4 weeks of veg. and gradually raise till i get to 1600. Then swith to DM gold @ 1800first 3weeks and gradually decrease til harvest.
jointmcfatty
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Could u guys also post what type of setup that you're using. Like DWC, flood and drain, aero ect. Im running around 800 on my aero now and I think it may be a lil high, as it looks like they might be getting a lil burn
bigtittymilf
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flushing widow at 6 weeks is a little early all the seed banks list widow as an 11-12 week flower so you shouldnt fluch till week 9-10 or your not gonna getthem to optimum potency i believe i never grew widow myself im holding some clones for my friend till he moves but i dont want the extra grow time since im doing sweet tooth and bluebery both 8 week sflowers and next time ill do c99 which is 6-7 weeks
StinkBud
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I didn't say Earl flushed at six weeks...I said he flushed for six weeks.
That's right, 6 motha fukin weeks! In pictures he posted the plants where completely purple. He said it was overkill but I bet the buds tasted sweet!
Help me here Earl????
grandpabear3
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1400 ppm all 4 stages of flowering....2 weeks per tray
1400-1600 mothers
ph'd tapwater to 5.8 for clones...no nutes at all
pics in my journal in my signature
4maggio
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Hey Earl.. You're a funny guy.. accurate and informative, thanks..
You work here?
Airline pilot! sometimes I wish I could put 2 organized thoughts together, period
let alone fly a plane.. I do real good on a motorcycle though..
Keeping the nute strength down is not any easy thing but 'feed less' is good advice...
from my own experience... I over feed em some... <<I didn't say I was smart
I have a phobia about not enough mg, ES adds PPMs to basic formula<<noob stuff<< I'll get it.
CYAround Earl..
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platypusmann
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week 1 veg: plain RO water-017 ppm
week 2 veg: 200 ppm
week 3 veg: 400 ppm
week 4 veg: 600 ppm
week 5 veg: 850 ppm
week 6 veg: 1000 ppm
week 1 flower: 650 ppm
week 2 flower: 850 ppm
week 3 flower: 1100 ppm
week 4 thru 6 flower: 1400 ppm
week 7 flower: 1100 ppm
week 8 flower: 750 ppm
week 9 flower: plain RO water-017 ppm
week 10 flower: plain RO water w/ Sweet Leaf-050 ppm
This is the ppm's from my last grow, which was 10 plants vegged/4 plants flowered----of course they varied by 50 or so ppm through the week, but stayed close to these ranges-White Widow strain from 420 seeds
week 2 veg: 200 ppm
week 3 veg: 400 ppm
week 4 veg: 600 ppm
week 5 veg: 850 ppm
week 6 veg: 1000 ppm
week 1 flower: 650 ppm
week 2 flower: 850 ppm
week 3 flower: 1100 ppm
week 4 thru 6 flower: 1400 ppm
week 7 flower: 1100 ppm
week 8 flower: 750 ppm
week 9 flower: plain RO water-017 ppm
week 10 flower: plain RO water w/ Sweet Leaf-050 ppm
This is the ppm's from my last grow, which was 10 plants vegged/4 plants flowered----of course they varied by 50 or so ppm through the week, but stayed close to these ranges-White Widow strain from 420 seeds
Herebutnot
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3 part gh 1200 ppm in a current culture 4 site 1000 watt lux week three veg. Light switch tonight. Letting them drain the res eat all that veg nutes up. For first three weeks flower all veg nutes for Stretch. Hen res change loaded with full bloom nutes 1300 ppm and transition to bloom nutes in system ppm first week 700. Gradually raise to full matchin the res ppm. Also add bud ignitor. Boom!
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rustyshaclkferd
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1500 PPM at a European convention from plug to late bloom then 2k, as feed solution.
3-4 week veg... aint no body got time for that
3-4 week veg... aint no body got time for that
DeepWaterDean
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Nothing like weighing in11 years later
70's natureboy
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and stoners still can't do math lol.
Hust17
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I know it’s old but you commented recently... You actually have that backwards friend. You want minimal stretch early and then a bit more later as the buds start to stack you want them to stretch more. Cheers.
DailyBlastin
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I recently installed a bluelab gaurdian monitor for this purpose and its a good thing i did, my first res fill with it i did my nutes as i always have, it turned out being 1670ppm (just under 150 of that from the tap) what i never knew before was that i was dosing too much and my ph was dropping every couple days because of it, i just filled the res again yesterday and only dosed to 1230ppm and so far ph has stayed right at 5.6, i dont expect to see it dropping at this level but will update if it does. I do 4 plants perpetual in a 2x2 so theyre always at different stages of flower but i use the same feed for them all, when a plant gets to its final week i will shut off the feed line to that plant and just give water manually until its chopped.