What do you think?

So being a resident of a state where "Medicinal Marijuana" is legal, I have looked into the laws surrounding the new "Legalization" of marijuana and became worried, Do you think that the legalization will affect people getting there cards? Because i feel like most doctors are going to see it as "oh you wanna get do yah?, Well its allready legal", I feel like a lot of people will miss out on the chance to grow in somewhat of abundance because the law permits a small amount of growing with no card, but what about the patients?


Thoughts Please!

Growing is still illegal in wa...colorado you can grow with the new recreational law not in washington

CA ...here..


Locally we have already established court cases where as the courts gave back MMJ to the patient after it was seized.. this is ST.. not fed..
next week if the gov gets another wild hair up someplace they may decide to round all us up.. who knows for sure..

The laws are a mess. Supposedly, it is legal in two states now. Well, I am sure you could get refused for all sorts of things because MJ is a Schedule 1 substance and federally illegal. Here in AK, someone with a card can grow less than someone without.

I think there will be no clear answers until the feds remove it from Schedule 1 and officially declare it up to the states or make it legal. And, although we have some momentum, that is still a ways off.

cheechako said:

The laws are a mess. Supposedly, it is legal in two states now. Well, I am sure you could get refused for all sorts of things because MJ is a Schedule 1 substance and federally illegal. Here in AK, someone with a card can grow less than someone without.

I think there will be no clear answers until the feds remove it from Schedule 1 and officially declare it up to the states or make it legal. And, although we have some momentum, that is still a ways off.

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That's the big issue there is it's scheduling. I see no action by the feds to change it any time soon. If the supreme court got a hold of this case today it would go bad for pro-folks. We are a long way off from any possibility of marijuana being legalized federally. Even asking them to legalize medical on a federal level seems to be impossible, and in reality only 18 states I believe have medical, about 10 short of the 3/4 needed to take action against the federal government[[EDIT-Excuse me, 20 states short]]]. Legal isn't an uphill battle federally, it's a fricking leap into space battle currently. Obama will not use any of his powers to push for legal or medical, and the majority in congress are dead set against it. Even the polls conducted mainly in pro-states are off, many say around 50% or so are for some type of legalization but in reality only about half of those people would vote for it in the voting booth.

Not to be the pessimist but I honestly believe legal will be avoided and stopped in most states in the next decade or so depending on what happens in WA and CO. If it isn't 100% great news in the next few years out of those states and the one or two that may get legalization passed in the next few years, it will basically stop the movement in it's tracks. That's why what happens in WA and CO and in any of the very few states that get it legal in the next year or two is so very important. If the right people are not in charge and/or there is conflict within the industry it will go bad quickly. But, anything can happen in America, and in politics.

Dannoo93 said:

Growing is still illegal in wa...colorado you can grow with the new recreational law not in washington

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what i mean is, people are getting turned for medical cards because weed is "legal" in some instances. so its not fair to the people who really needed because those doctors now see it as "well everyone (in said states) can smoke over 21, so why even give green cards".

Stonerssidekick said:

what i mean is, people are getting turned for medical cards because weed is "legal" in some instances. so its not fair to the people who really needed because those doctors now see it as "well everyone (in said states) can smoke over 21, so why even give green cards".

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Don't dispensaries only sell to card holders? Unless they want people selling weed without paying taxes, they need to be giving cards to patients that need them.
Otherwise they'll continue going to the same dealer and the gov't won't get money for it...
BTW what are prices for legal MMJ? Are they still around street prices?
Round here, street price is:
25$ 1/8,
45$ 1/4,
80$ 1/2,
125-140$ oz

SnakeByte said:

Don't dispensaries only sell to card holders? Unless they want people selling weed without paying taxes, they need to be giving cards to patients that need them.
Otherwise they'll continue going to the same dealer and the gov't won't get money for it...
BTW what are prices for legal MMJ? Are they still around street prices?
Round here, street price is:
25$ 1/8,
45$ 1/4,
80$ 1/2,
125-140$ oz

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yes they do, what im saying is, are they turning away people in these states because it is legal so they are saying "why do you need a card" is it becoming or going to become a problem? that was my question

Ya I'm saying to tell your general practitioner that your not comfortable going through the "black market" ESPECIALLY since it is legal, so to shut up and do their job lol

AS you cannot get it without a card. Wouldn't that work?

But yes, if they continue to deny people their cards, the gov't as well as the patients will both suffer from those particular Doctor's stupid ignorance...

SnakeByte said:

Ya I'm saying to tell your general practitioner that your not comfortable going through the "black market" ESPECIALLY since it is legal, so to shut up and do their job lol

AS you cannot get it without a card. Wouldn't that work?

But yes, if they continue to deny people their cards, the gov't as well as the patients will both suffer from those particular Dr. stupid ignorance...

And it should be they who pay for their medical negligence.

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thats what worries me with the whole "legalization" of it, so many people are gonna lose from this shit, its unfair in a major way

Well, I imagined it would be somewhat hectic for those doctors who don't really know much about MJ to understand how this was all supposed to go down.
If the doctors don't know that buying weed on the black market is STILL ILLEGAL, and that growing your own MJ takes quite a little while, then they obviously need to be re-educated...
It's a controlled substance that now requires prescription (card) to buy... Are you allowed to buy Oxycontin without prescription even though it's legal?
Nope. MMJ is the same, except you can grow small amounts for personal recreational use.

and still wondering about this:

snakebyte said:

BTW what are prices for legal MMJ? Are they still around street prices?
Round here, street price is:
25$ 1/8,
45$ 1/4,
80$ 1/2,
125-140$ oz

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How the fuck is Washington DC our capital, a medical marijuana "state" (I know it's not a state) and not the rest of the country? W T F. I just wanted to add that. Carry on.

Its the double standard gubberment for ya,they want to let people think one thing while they stay ambiguous to their real intentions,,gotta love it.

Stonerssidekick said:

what i mean is, people are getting turned for medical cards because weed is "legal" in some instances. so its not fair to the people who really needed because those doctors now see it as "well everyone (in said states) can smoke over 21, so why even give green cards".

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Alaska is a medical state. AFAIK, no doctors up here will approve a patient. There are two docs that run "clinics" every so often, and I think that's how most people get it.

So, I imagine there still will be docs that specialize in mmj patients.

Stonerssidekick said:

So being a resident of a state where "Medicinal Marijuana" is legal, I have looked into the laws surrounding the new "Legalization" of marijuana and became worried, Do you think that the legalization will affect people getting there cards? Because i feel like most doctors are going to see it as "oh you wanna get do yah?, Well its allready legal", I feel like a lot of people will miss out on the chance to grow in somewhat of abundance because the law permits a small amount of growing with no card, but what about the patients?


Thoughts Please!

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Pretty sure the majority of patients just smoke to get high lol, they give those cards out like a driver license.

I think were more focused on washington state and Colorado ...not dc...only recreational in those two states

Stonerssidekick said:

what i mean is, people are getting turned for medical cards because weed is "legal" in some instances. so its not fair to the people who really needed because those doctors now see it as "well everyone (in said states) can smoke over 21, so why even give green cards".

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Medical and rec prices are different, taxed different to. Could be a small reason.

SnakeByte said:

Don't dispensaries only sell to card holders? Unless they want people selling weed without paying taxes, they need to be giving cards to patients that need them.
Otherwise they'll continue going to the same dealer and the gov't won't get money for it...
BTW what are prices for legal MMJ? Are they still around street prices?
Round here, street price is:
25$ 1/8,
45$ 1/4,
80$ 1/2,
125-140$ oz

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Well you are obviously in Canada, Cali or a legal state because those "street" prices you list need to be doubled to match prices in the mid-west and most of the south and east coast. $15-20 a gram average.

kinetic said:

How the fuck is Washington DC our capital, a medical marijuana "state" (I know it's not a state) and not the rest of the country? W T F. I just wanted to add that. Carry on.

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DC was one of the worst hit areas during the crack epidemic of the 80s. Why would any fact be surprising in this nation?