What does molasses do?

testiclees

Well-Known Member
Youre talking about the 'aea' thread right? ..

Im going to send a sample to this lab to compare the morgan extract solution Reams' boasts about for comparison.. From what i can tell it looks great.. Id like to see the difference between tests as well.

In consultation what did you tell them you were growing? Tomatoes? Id like to have a soil profile closest to what i think would be accurate for cannabis. I would think toms would be pretty close
i told them lavender and tomatoes. Did you mention that you had already used logan labs? The aec guys and Astera are logan fans.
 

MistaRasta

Well-Known Member
Yeah, im actually sending my rx to Astera here in a couple of months when everythings ready to go. Really like the way he handles things, doesnt care about your personal choices and is very smart. Not to mention im a huge fan of the way Agricola thinks and their processes,solid company for sure.

Im going to give them a shot but also want some more variables to play with. I'll be consulting with intl ag (being they use weak acids) using their reccomended fert against Astera's reccomendation against a tweaked coot mix adding in trace minerals to balance it out (Leadsled style.)

Not a contest by any means just weighing my options. Thanks for the info on intl ag labs, been looking for a MES test and this hits the head on the nail.
 

DonTesla

Well-Known Member
Found some single-ingredient, organic, evaporated cane juice that gets processed same day its harvested..

Seems like really amazing sugar for sure, its almost fresh and sticky like trichs

It has molasses and vitamins in it but more importantly its easier to work with and should be an improvement upon regular BSM

I'm starting a tea right now for outside and will see how it do
 

GoRealUhGro

Well-Known Member
Right hott stuff ...like they said....it's not really a note...but this of it the way I do...it makes the nutes work basically....feeds those buga that poop out what ur plant can eat....It doesn't have to be molassea but I'd just atidk with it for safety ...corn syrup... Maple syrup... Glucose and what not.....I used afrdities extraction for my teas and every tea I made bubbled up better and faster...but it's just a gimic ....work got my bag ass though
...no more talking on riu when I'm fucked up...Jesus
 

GoRealUhGro

Well-Known Member
Lol yeah no doubt.. I just happened to look at at my post and was like ......dude...I really don't even remember doing it so when you take that into consideration I done pretty well....first time I have been that fucked up since I got outa jail!...no more of that b.s
 

Chronikool

Well-Known Member
Lol yeah no doubt.. I just happened to look at at my post and was like ......dude...I really don't even remember doing it so when you take that into consideration I done pretty well....first time I have been that fucked up since I got outa jail!...no more of that b.s
..On a side note...good to see another 'dotter' in here....i know of one other.. hahaha.. :)
 

iHearAll

Well-Known Member
Higher brixx content in fruits, vegetables, and buds! As well as feeds probiotics and helps convince worms to mate. Chica wam!! Brix is sugar content and directly relates to the health of the plant as well as the vitamin content of the fruit/vege/bud etc.

A refractometer measures this ad well as SG and salinity. Sg is specific gravity of alcohol. You can be safe to assume that if you started with a 10% concentration of sugar, yeast eats 9%, then the secomd reading should indicate you have a 1% value of brixx vs the initial start up content.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractometer220px-Measuring_Principle_v2.png refractometerimage.jpg

Useless to many!
 

testiclees

Well-Known Member
Higher brixx content in fruits, vegetables, and buds! As well as feeds probiotics and helps convince worms to mate. Chica wam!! Brix is sugar content and directly relates to the health of the plant as well as the vitamin content of the fruit/vege/bud etc.

A refractometer measures this ad well as SG and salinity. Sg is specific gravity of alcohol. You can be safe to assume that if you started with a 10% concentration of sugar, yeast eats 9%, then the secomd reading should indicate you have a 1% value of brixx vs the initial start up content.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RefractometerView attachment 3717362 View attachment 3717363

Useless to many!
Bro, adding sugar or molasses to your soil doesnt increase the brix of your plant. High brix growers cultivate a lively microherd to digest soil minerals. While sugars will feed soil biology it would only be useful up to a point. The goal is to cultivate a diverse microherd that are cycling nutrients present in the media.

Also checking refractometer values is better than nothing but its utility is limited. There are lots of factors influencing those readings e.g.time of day, position on plant, extraction method, last feed, moisture level, operator contamination etc

If achieving high brix results were as simple as adding molasses there wouldn't be a soil consulting industry.
 

DonTesla

Well-Known Member
High brix ..I think its actually the measure of the number of covalent bonds within the plant tissue, which includes minerals, sugars as mentioned, acids, and (often sulfur-containing) flavour-compounds too

This can be achieved organically or more or less synthetically, I would think

Being organic, tho
..I think its about Evaporated organic cane juice-fed worm teas, fresh young coconut water, a timely sulphur/magnesium foliar application, and a little aloe vera help keep the vitamin, mineral, enzyme, and exudate levels high in the rhizospheres

Of course a high population of balanced bacteria and fungi in a healthy preferably humus based soil with a plant who has either a bene biofilm / plenty of chitin/ase / bene bio predators would be other prerequisites, otherwise one risks losing all that hard work n plant tissue goodness to pests like thrips

Defense first!
 
Last edited:

iHearAll

Well-Known Member
Bro, adding sugar or molasses to your soil doesnt increase the brix of your plant. High brix growers cultivate a lively microherd to digest soil minerals. While sugars will feed soil biology it would only be useful up to a point. The goal is to cultivate a diverse microherd that are cycling nutrients present in the media.

Also checking refractometer values is better than nothing but its utility is limited. There are lots of factors influencing those readings e.g.time of day, position on plant, extraction method, last feed, moisture level, operator contamination etc

If achieving high brix results were as simple as adding molasses there wouldn't be a soil consulting industry.
Broooooooo nah duh.

Everyone on this thread already stated that microbes feed on sugars, my intent wasn't that adding only molasses will incease the sugar content of fruits... i figure he/she won't drop everything theyre doing and start pouring molasses in their hydro containers because joeshit the riu member with the stupid name said to.

Fermented fruit extracts help, aloe pulp, molasses, fish aminos, the whole 9 yards broooooooo lol

I hate getting called bro when i'm being patronized haha. Just say "hey fuck you that's not the entire story" or something
 

testiclees

Well-Known Member
Broooooooo nah duh.

Everyone on this thread already stated that microbes feed on sugars, my intent wasn't that adding only molasses will incease the sugar content of fruits... i figure he/she won't drop everything theyre doing and start pouring molasses in their hydro containers because joeshit the riu member with the stupid name said to.

Fermented fruit extracts help, aloe pulp, molasses, fish aminos, the whole 9 yards broooooooo lol

I hate getting called bro when i'm being patronized haha. Just say "hey fuck you that's not the entire story" or something
You straight up asserted that molasses improves brix, you're mistaken. It's not that you hate "being patronized" it's more that you dont appreciate being corrected.
.
"Fermented fruit extracts help, aloe pulp, molasses, fish aminos, the whole 9 yards broooooooo lol" bro you forgot the rainbow unicorn.

Take off your know-it-all asshat and review some research outside of the stoner scene.
 
Last edited:

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
FWIW, Jorge Cervantes (I think) had some pictures in his book claiming molasses contributed to bigger buds.


I get the feed the microbes in the soil thing at a basic level, as a possible reason to use molasses, but I wonder how effective / ineffective molasses is as an intentional magnesium supplement or ph adjuster in water ?
 

testiclees

Well-Known Member
FWIW, Jorge Cervantes (I think) had some pictures in his book claiming molasses contributed to bigger buds.


I get the feed the microbes in the soil thing at a basic level, as a possible reason to use molasses, but I wonder how effective / ineffective molasses is as an intentional magnesium supplement or ph adjuster in water ?
Ya i believe in right conditions molasses will improve soil health and that could lead to more vibrant plants with increased metabolism but it's unlikely it will help brix. Also molasses is heavy on K and managing K to Ca ratio is critical in high brix technique.

I never considered the pH aspect. Over here folks are saying that it drops pH pretty effectively.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/affect-on-water-ph-from-molasses.373364/
 

iHearAll

Well-Known Member
You straight up asserted that molasses improves brix, you're mistaken. It's not that you hate "being patronized" it's more that you dont appreciate being corrected.
.
"Fermented fruit extracts help, aloe pulp, molasses, fish aminos, the whole 9 yards broooooooo lol" bro you forgot the rainbow unicorn.

Take off your know-it-all asshat and review some research outside of the stoner scene.
God, just kill me already.


Bro's smh
 

iHearAll

Well-Known Member
If adding molasses to the soil feeds the microbes, and the mocrobes help give you higher brix then adding molasses to the soil helps feed the microbe that help give higher brix. idk how else anyone could have to spell this out. yea it's not the only thing involved with brix but the question what does molasses do and there was four pages of "it feeds the microbes" over and over again. so, i added to the discussion a possible variable the OP may not have be aware of.
 

hyroot

Well-Known Member
There's better things to feed the microbes with. molasses is like soda and a candy. Where amendments of all kinds, minerals, meals, dusts, plant material is like a 5 course dinner at high end restaurant
 
Top