What I have seen...The new threat.

no harm intended hic. u do come across as extreme at times, I was just throwing in my perspective and trying to shift the sub a lilttle... chillax. and nope, never said I was kool. often prove im not, oh well.... back to my pet soapbox.

The new "threat". give it a rest w your mongering. peace

It is a very real threat to peoples health. Quit being so blind. Like I said there are a lot of growers.

I am extreme most the time I think. A person that acts with passion can also be seen as extreme. It is all about where you are coming from right abe. To be a boring rock is fat boys job.

I'll give u that last statement, but won't "like" it.
look up the word sanctimonious, i think I spelled it right.

I looked it up! I like it. I did not know that word before today as you already knew so thanks.

And I know you want me to say this abe so I will so you are satisfied.

From what I have seen here I would not doubt, that if any man here were holier then thou it would be a sin and would not be tolerated.

I read a story once of the shit like that.

Anyone that quotes Jesus Christ, is already precluded from any intelligent conversation.

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Anyone that quotes Jesus Christ, is already precluded from any intelligent conversation.

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Oh, do explain why?

this is a good thread theres alot of people that just started growing out of no where just to make money and those are the people that do not need to be in this busines because they are the ones that dont care what they are sprying on the plants or putting in the water as long as they make money we should all be putting out health meds that can help those in need

Throwing out crap about causing us all to lose our cards is just not going to help.

Hic has a problem that requires meds I take it.
So he grows his own right?
Why is he hanging out in places where idiots use Raid?
Why is he concerned what the unsanctioned, (State law), and illegal, (Federal law), dispensaries do?

This law was crafted for sick people to grow or aqquire meds from a trusted Caregiver.
Because of Federal law it is designed with little to no regulation of the MM.
No one needs hic or anyone else to help us get good clean medicine.
Stop the war on your neighbors and the market will take care of itself with more regulations than any wishes to tolerate at present.

In the meantime Please leave well enough alone so sick people can continue to medicate in relative peace.
Some of us actually rely on this medicine for normal function and the ability to work for an honest living.
In my case that is my trade work; for others it might be Caregiving MM.
My job is none of your business just as a Caregivers job is none of mine.

Sorry about the flame - it was my Aspergers flaring I suppose...

Hic was at a couple different places were help was requested for growth was poor. I went about and was amazed at what I saw in the Baldwin area. What was hic doing you ask? He was trying to help out. I by no means went on a social call.

Why is he concerned what the unsanctioned, (State law), and illegal, (Federal law), dispensaries do? You self centerd asshole I am concerned because what your precious dispensary does affects the public. " you truly are something else fat boy"

Tell me fatboy why do you fear such a little thing? You guys all blow shit way outta whack here. Just because I am saying that information about this topic needs to be brought to light you freaks act like I am trying to destroy the law. You self proclaimed elites cant even think outta the box long enough to find ways to accomplish safety without getting full of fear and anger. If something were done it would not have to flip your little worlds of RIU and marijuana money making on its back. If you could use the other sides of your brains you all could construct a beautifull idea of safety without all your little politic tactics.

I have many ideas, I was hoping to gather more from the thread but as I have seen before not too much to gain here from others.

1 more thing abe you female or male? you seem like a male but your worries and need of detail makes me think you are female. not trying to be mean but just wondering?

and I am the fear mongerer ha ha ha.

One idea I had was awareness. people are not really thinking about their safety when they sighn their plants away to a swindler at their local dr shop or dispensary. Many people know nothing and are so tweaked with adrenaline about the whole process they sighn with the first salesman "grower" that approaches them.

The sad fact is the only thing the patient knows it what he is told and in a land of liars many don't know anything. Like overages, like who actually grew it, like how long ago since they sprayed it with something,like what all was used in the process, like how much did it cost to produce, like how much spidermite shit is on the buds, like what all was sprayed, like how much did you make off my plants. So much is kept in the dark for many reasons.

I hear the issues that the "average" patient comes up with. You elites should be ashamed of yourselves for not thinking of anyone other then those you meet and greet in the world you have built around you. So again I did not come to break but to help make. But I can only do so much in the land of RIU.

Let me hear ideas and complaints so that the whole picture can be seen. I know the public need more information then a slip in the mail with the state emblem the need more information then what the Caregivers have to say.

I'll guess you have little understanding about posse alterations to our laws, kinda like operating on blind faith. you come outta left field, in your special way, making all growers look somewhat bad merely b'cuz You had a recent scare. that's just my opinion.

you could tell me you aren't, "a self centered a' ho.." (your own words) that would be a lie. you are way too grandiose to not be. no shame in that brother, key is knowing and occasionally tempering. diversity is awesome at times... ppl's viewpoints can be annoying, agreeable, confusing, humbling but rarely enlightening. peace mofos

We had had some problems like this on our site. An Opinion is just that AN OPINION. We should all be working together to help each other as the laws affect us all not downgrading each other. This type of stuff gives MEDICAL MARIJUANA a bad rap.... I agree there should be more information widely available.

Because they're the same ones that think Mormons are crazy because the Mormons, think John Smith was a prophet. I'm one of those evil athiest's we've all heard so much about. I think people that believe in an all powerful, invisible, entity, don't have a firm holding in reality.

Upgrade? Ya, now that i read that, it does sound like that lol. Now it looks better.

I think intelligent discussion can be had here without the name calling..

You make a shitload of assumptions hic.
I am not elite. In any manner.

I'm not a Caregiver, and I don't provide meds for any but myself.
I have no interest in, nor do I supply, any sales outlet(s).

I could care less what others do.
This is a personal responsibility law.
It was not constructed with any intent for improvement or regulation.
It was purposedly made almost impossible to alter.

We need the Federal government to get off their asses and stop the war on your neighbors.
Once they do they will ream us all a new one with rules, laws, and penalties for non-compliance.

Now hic: you started this thread with a threat.
You clearly stated causing us all to lose our cards was an option if you don't get your way.
That's bullshit, and not constructive to your cause.

If you want to start a trade organization or whatnot, and you want to have testing available: far out.
As long as it doesn't hinder my ability to medicate with my own medicine.
Losing my card to someone on a crusade for better illegal med outlets crosses that line.

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Hmm where to begin. How about right here. I went into a grow room and a man was spraying raid on his plants. I went to a growers as he was adding plants that were filled powdery mildew into a hash machine. I went into a grow and a persons plants were so shinny of neem oil I could have used the buds for soap, he was harvesting in 2 days. There is a new threat to marijuana and it is mans stupidity. I have seen a long time growers get swindled and deceived by punk salesman "ha ha ha grow consultant is what they call themselves. I have something to say

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I agree and I also disagree.

I agree with the chemicals and such being a big problem and a threat. Great example: I see plenty of groups asking for and receiving donations from who knows who to make oil to supply to cancer patients. In my opinion, that is a big no no.

The only thing I do not agree with is the testing. What is the point? We pay all kinds in taxes for the FDA to test our food. As far as I am concerned, they don't test anything. The probably only accept bribes. I just read a big article about how all of the factories here in the US that make pharmaceutical medicines are not sanitary, run down, and making people sick. The testing for these facilities is not working. I don't trust testing. Also, the testing procedures are very expensive. I believe there is only one facility in this country that can accurately test marijuana. Going by what I understand, anything less than a $100,000 used set up, is inaccurate and pretty much useless, and considered for use as a novelty rather than science. Also, it will end up costing the patients more to purchase their medicine. Proper testing with proper equipment costs $100. What is to stop a dispensary from flipping the testing organization a bribe to pass everything that comes from their facility? This kind of crap goes on all of the time.

If I was not a grower, and only a consumer, I would try to only acquire my marijuana from growers who have proven to be reputable.

Everything else, I pretty much agree with.