What is happening to my baby :( Overwatered ?

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sensolinia

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Seeds: Purple Skunk from sensi seeds

Im using BioBizz All mix soil
11l Fabric Pot


Nutrients:
I did not use any nutrients first 3 weeks since the soil is strong by itself.
After that:

Biobis Bio grow 1mll on 1l water
Biobizz Bloom 1 mill on 1 l water
(planing Biobizz Top max in about a week)

Humidity 50%
temp 21-23 celsius
Oscalating tower fan

1000w led light (250w actual power)

4x4 tent

So she became like this once she entered flowering.
Im checking PH and ppm . Ph 6.3 and ppm 700 - 750

So this is my first run so I'm really disappointed. I had no problems until now.
I really hope I can save her.
I water when I think the pot is light (lifting pot) . So about 2-4 days.

She is not yellowing and no obvious deficiency problems to see (I had some at the start in veg phase only on one leaf) Probably soil too strong since I didn't add any additional nutrients.

I removed maybe 2 leaves in veg stage and i must say she smells like SHIT literally like sewers. Its my first grow but I don't think it should be like this ?

The leaves are somehow bend invards and invard from the sides . Possible windburn ?

Tnx for help
 

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crimsonecho

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may be more underwatered then overwatered because the ones in the plastic pots look better and that may be due to plastics ability to hold more water in the medium. is the shit smell coming from the pots?
and your temps are a little low i’d look into getting them around 27.
 
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sensolinia

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crimsonecho said:
may be more underwatered then overwatered because the ones in the plastic pots look better and that may be due to plastics ability to hold more water in the medium. is the shit smell coming from the pots?
and your temps are a little low i’d look into getting them around 27.
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I watered them today since I thought the same. Now ill wait few days. Those in plastic pots are photoperiods unknown seeds. I used them for learning and training. So I lst them , croped them , etc , I didn't want to test on bought seeds.

Tnx for information ill try to raise temperature a bit and see what happens.

Shit smell is coming from the leaves. When I defoliated few leaves they smell like shit.
 
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Tiflis

Tiflis

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sensolinia said:
Shit smell is coming from the leaves. When I defoliated few leaves they smell like shit.
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That's not a bad thing.
I would stop feeding and water them real good (slow pour, I drill small holes in plastic bottle caps)
When you see the plants getting hungry just top dress with more soil. You may have fed when they didn't need it yet.
Looking at the last pic, that much soil should sustain that size plant for longer than 3 weeks
 
Jeffislovinlife

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sensolinia said:
Seeds: Purple Skunk from sensi seeds

Im using BioBizz All mix soil
11l Fabric Pot


Nutrients:
I did not use any nutrients first 3 weeks since the soil is strong by itself.
After that:

Biobis Bio grow 1mll on 1l water
Biobizz Bloom 1 mill on 1 l water
(planing Biobizz Top max in about a week)

Humidity 50%
temp 21-23 celsius
Oscalating tower fan

1000w led light (250w actual power)

4x4 tent

So she became like this once she entered flowering.
Im checking PH and ppm . Ph 6.3 and ppm 700 - 750

So this is my first run so I'm really disappointed. I had no problems until now.
I really hope I can save her.
I water when I think the pot is light (lifting pot) . So about 2-4 days.

She is not yellowing and no obvious deficiency problems to see (I had some at the start in veg phase only on one leaf) Probably soil too strong since I didn't add any additional nutrients.

I removed maybe 2 leaves in veg stage and i must say she smells like SHIT literally like sewers. Its my first grow but I don't think it should be like this ?

The leaves are somehow bend invards and invard from the sides . Possible windburn ?

Tnx for help
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Are you watering the same amount that you watered before temperature of the water that you're watering Winburn could be a possibility and as far as animals smells go worried when you start smelling cat piss the best of luck to you with all of your endeavor be looking forward to seeing what you do next as always 16467570170521889282864.jpgmakes for a good read lol
 
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If anything I would say that maybe that particular strain needs more light than the other beans you popped in there, to my not very expert eyes it looks like the plant needs way more light, the plant does not look deficient like you said.
 
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1 - When was your PH / EC meter last calibrated?

2 - your PH of 6.3 and PPM of 700-750, is that whats going in? Or is that the readings from your runoff water?

from what iam seeing, it shows that your overwatering. The fan leaves stem is standing strong but the leaves are drooping which is the typical sign. This is also why your getting a bad smell as ur starving roots from oxygen. Let the soil dry out and see how the leaves are looking.
 
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sensolinia

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Update:

I watered a bit more like @crimsonecho said and she bounced back i also ran tower fan 24/7 before now I run it for 3h each 3h . I guess i was afraid of overwatering so I did not water her enough.

silk689 said:
1 - When was your PH / EC meter last calibrated?

2 - your PH of 6.3 and PPM of 700-750, is that whats going in? Or is that the readings from your runoff water?

from what iam seeing, it shows that your overwatering. The fan leaves stem is standing strong but the leaves are drooping which is the typical sign. This is also why your getting a bad smell as ur starving roots from oxygen. Let the soil dry out and see how the leaves are looking.
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Im calibrating it once every week or two.

Thats the Ph and PPm when watering with nutrients included. Not the runoff. Run off is around 6.8 7.0 PH ppm 300

HydoDan said:
Over nuted, over watered.. Smell is probably root rot.
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I added half the nutes recommended and did not add any nutrients for first 3-4 weeks. The smell is not coming from the pot or soil , (I tested it ) it comes off the plant. Noticed when I defoliated few leaves.
 

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Jeffislovinlife said:
Are you watering the same amount that you watered before temperature of the water that you're watering Winburn could be a possibility and as far as animals smells go worried when you start smelling cat piss the best of luck to you with all of your endeavor be looking forward to seeing what you do next as always View attachment 5098061makes for a good read lol
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thank you will post how it progresses.
 
Shaded420

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the unfortunate thing is you've got all these problems happening while you're trying to flower - next time make sure you've got things on point before switching that dial! Use this as a learning experience but don't expect anything great imo

"1000w led light (250w actual power)

4x4 tent"

Also a little underpowered for your current size of tent so that will impact quality.
 
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sensolinia

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Shaded420 said:
the unfortunate thing is you've got all these problems happening while you're trying to flower - next time make sure you've got things on point before switching that dial! Use this as a learning experience but don't expect anything great imo

"1000w led light (250w actual power)

4x4 tent"

Also a little underpowered for your current size of tent so that will impact quality.
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Yes its unfortunate but its my first growth so as long as i get anything off of it ill be happy . Everything is new for me so i hope ill do a better job next time. Still, i will update the result and progress here. Will consider upgrading lights in the future.
 
Shaded420

Shaded420

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sensolinia said:
Yes its unfortunate but its my first growth so as long as i get anything off of it ill be happy . Everything is new for me so i hope ill do a better job next time. Still, i will update the result and progress here. Will consider upgrading lights in the future.
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For sure, or maybe just lower your plant foot print (do 1-2 plants instead of 4 so they are getting more light) Remember it's easier to help when you're still early on in veg stages so don't be shy about coming here early on even just for input.

This is a rough estimate of what your current light is doing in your 4x4

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Southernontariogrower

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sensolinia said:
Yes its unfortunate but its my first growth so as long as i get anything off of it ill be happy . Everything is new for me so i hope ill do a better job next time. Still, i will update the result and progress here. Will consider upgrading lights in the future.
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I veg with a bit more than 250w, flower needs more power. But some newer lights say they cover 4x4 with less than 600w, l think 600w is good start for flowering. Less will cause spindly buds usually. Ive been wrong before, best of luck!
 
crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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sensolinia said:
Update:

I watered a bit more like @crimsonecho said and she bounced back i also ran tower fan 24/7 before now I run it for 3h each 3h . I guess i was afraid of overwatering so I did not water her enough.



Im calibrating it once every week or two.

Thats the Ph and PPm when watering with nutrients included. Not the runoff. Run off is around 6.8 7.0 PH ppm 300



I added half the nutes recommended and did not add any nutrients for first 3-4 weeks. The smell is not coming from the pot or soil , (I tested it ) it comes off the plant. Noticed when I defoliated few leaves.
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oh good to hear now be sure your medium is always moist never dry it out but don’t keep it wet either. when you water the whole pot should be soaked and wet but it shouldn’t stay like that always so your next watering should be when the top soil is dry but should be enough moisture just a couple of cms down. soil particles should be sticking to your fingers and you should feel dampness of the medium. thats when you water again saturate the pot give them a good drink. find the sweetspot they like.
 
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crimsonecho

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Southernontariogrower said:
I veg with a bit more than 250w, flower needs more power. But some newer lights say they cover 4x4 with less than 600w, l think 600w is good start for flowering. Less will cause spindly buds usually. Ive been wrong before, best of luck!
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600 is for co2 supplementation on a dialed in professional grow, 450-500gr under 450w in a 4x4 every 8 weeks without co2 is a very realistic goal imo but its better to get a 600w unit and keep it dimmed, good for the leds.
 
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