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Mr.KushMan

Mr.KushMan

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I have done a few drugs, I by no stretch of the imagination consider myself an experienced drug used. I have smoked weed pretty well everyday for the last 2 years. I have done shrooms about 5 times in the last two years and Lucy like 4. I want to do a drug that gives great visuals, little nausea, no lock-jaw, and no body load. If you can point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it.

Peace
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
^ may be close.. 'cid has a lil nausea but the body load (next day) is a bit heavy IMO.
 
rossbonlay

rossbonlay

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ketamine, no body load in fact your body will cease to be feelable

No way man,ketamines is the worst for body load,you can barely walk after it,it all depends on your mood with hallucinogenics,somtimes shrooms can way you down nausea etc,but ive had trips with energy that no extacy or speed could ever compete with,danced for 12hrs straight and still wanted to know where the after party was!!the same with acid,try hype your self up before you do them and try your best to cancel every negative thought wether it be nausea,feeling tierd,etc,me personaly, think shrooms are best for visuals,theres other drugs like 2CI 2CB,were strange but cool visuals too,
 
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lstme

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get a copy of pikhal or tikhal and you should learn your options. buy a cactus... mescalito!
 
ANC

ANC

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DMT, no ifs and or buts... clean trip, pure visuals like your visual cortex has been hijacked and no body impact, you will be 100% normal if probably quite euphoric 15 minutes after smokeing it.
Plus if you are lucky, you may find yourself cleansed/healed/enlightened like you have never been before... its pure positive for me, it makes me do better things with my time every day.
 
Mr.KushMan

Mr.KushMan

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Thanks to all, I will grab Tihkal and Pihkal. I will look into cactus. I have done acid, and find it last a little to long to be enjoyable. Shrooms are cool, Fucking E is one of the worst experiences I have had, besides when I drank the piss of yeast. I heard most of the 2-Cx drugs have mostly the effects of MDMA with more visuals, so its probably again somthing I wouldn't be to interested in. But DMT, fuckin' DMT, am I so blind, I should have thought of that desn't last long by any stretch of the imagination, besides being completely debilitated, its almost a dream drug. Most of the drugs that I would turn to are very addictive. I can't really think of a drug that is strong visuals, not debilitating, little to no body load, no lock jaw or jaw tension, preferrably not addictive but I can take it in proportion.

Thanks otherwise everyone
 
ANC

ANC

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DMT is not debilitating, as long as I'm not breaking through, I'd be able to answer the tellephone...and speak intelligebly
Its more like a little 5 minute nap, tha packs all the goodness of a much longer trip due to time dilation...
 
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Shpongle Spores

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You have some high standards for psychedelics. gotta take the good with the bad. 2c compounds dont always have similar effects of mdma. especially something like 2c-c which is a sedating psychedelic. Sounds like you just need some better acid. Good acid = strong visuals, not really debilitating, def. no lock jaw, and i don't know of any physically addictive psychedelics. try the Mescaline though. sure there's some nausea, but that'll go away ;)
 
Mr.KushMan

Mr.KushMan

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shepj said:
dude..

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal.shtml

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal.shtml

merry christmas. lol.
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Thanks dude saves me the trip to the library, or even maybe some dough.

Cheers

ANC said:
DMT is not debilitating, as long as I'm not breaking through, I'd be able to answer the tellephone...and speak intelligebly
Its more like a little 5 minute nap, tha packs all the goodness of a much longer trip due to time dilation...
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I thought you were pretty much out of this world, also I would rather not smoke, heard it tastes like plastic, but if I mixing with weed makes it more tolerable than it sounds interesting.

Thanks

Shpongle Spores said:
You have some high standards for psychedelics. gotta take the good with the bad. 2c compounds dont always have similar effects of mdma. especially something like 2c-c which is a sedating psychedelic. Sounds like you just need some better acid. Good acid = strong visuals, not really debilitating, def. no lock jaw, and i don't know of any physically addictive psychedelics. try the Mescaline though. sure there's some nausea, but that'll go away ;)
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What do you care about my standards man? Just humor me for a second. Maybe you don't believe that all there is in the world is what we see in front of us, no spiritual world, or anything that cannot be explained by science. Now based on that I am making my decisions, I am not going to take a drug to have a spiritual experience because in my paradigm I believe that there is no spiritual realm or otherwise. So if I am going to take a chemical purely to get high, to change my consciousness, obviously not out of control because I still love my body, and not a chemical that has no data surrounding it, not saying 2C's don't but there are several that do. As I had said before acid last a little to long for it to be enjoyable for me, but otherwise.
 
ANC

ANC

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I guaranteed its the most in it "out of it " you'll experience, Ialways somehow stay aware of my surroundings, and do not find the experience threatening at all... its almost like haveing 2 concsiousnesses.
Also about the taste, with a good pipe and clean product there is next to no taste, the horrible taste comes from burned DMT... yuck...totaly avoidable... take a small 25mg dose and you will see... most likely a pretty picture experience, but you can disengage and collect yourself any time you want to.
 
Mr.KushMan

Mr.KushMan

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ANC said:
I guaranteed its the most in it "out of it " you'll experience, Ialways somehow stay aware of my surroundings, and do not find the experience threatening at all... its almost like haveing 2 concsiousnesses.
Also about the taste, with a good pipe and clean product there is next to no taste, the horrible taste comes from burned DMT... yuck...totaly avoidable... take a small 25mg dose and you will see... most likely a pretty picture experience, but you can disengage and collect yourself any time you want to.
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Are speaking of N,N-DMT or 5-MeO-DMT? But its something you are able to pull your self out of. And can you mix it with weed? Is DMT water soluble? If not than could I use my bong maybe? The two consioussnesses you are talking about, is it like you are aware of your surroundings and whats going on in your mind kind of thing. Are you able to get up and walk around on a regular dose?

Thanks and Peace
 
ANC

ANC

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N-DMT, yep you can put a little weed in the ash should help catch the melting crystals, but try to not be stoned before the time, the clearer your head the clearer the visions.
You can use a small bong with room temp water, you will loose a little product, so will need slightly larger doses.
Yep, you can get up and go on with things, you may feel a little mushroomed for a minute or 3 if you bail out, but all good after that.
I sometimes abort launches when it just doesnt get me there fast enough, no biggy, things just look a little trippy for a few minutes, some people even do it open eyed.
What I need to stress is the short duration, my longest voyage has been 15 minutes, but the average for myself and observed is 5 minutes, thats all... I've taken shits that lasted longer.... loose the fear, in fact with the absolute need for control you are displaying, I'm not sure it is the route for you. The best experiences come when you still your inner babbling voice, and just fall into it like a slumber.

I know for a fact 5-meo would bitch slap you.
 
Mr.KushMan

Mr.KushMan

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ANC said:
N-DMT, yep you can put a little weed in the ash should help catch the melting crystals, but try to not be stoned before the time, the clearer your head the clearer the visions.
You can use a small bong with room temp water, you will loose a little product, so will need slightly larger doses.
Yep, you can get up and go on with things, you may feel a little mushroomed for a minute or 3 if you bail out, but all good after that.
I sometimes abort launches when it just doesnt get me there fast enough, no biggy, things just look a little trippy for a few minutes, some people even do it open eyed.
What I need to stress is the short duration, my longest voyage has been 15 minutes, but the average for myself and observed is 5 minutes, thats all... I've taken shits that lasted longer.... loose the fear, in fact with the absolute need for control you are displaying, I'm not sure it is the route for you. The best experiences come when you still your inner babbling voice, and just fall into it like a slumber.

I know for a fact 5-meo would bitch slap you.
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No worries dude. Im a fairly stable person both mentally and emotionally, I know where I stand on the issue of death and religion. I have worked through the most troubling question in my life without powerful hallucinogens, using DMT would simply be a visual stimulation. That is the reason for my voyage into drugs, simply for stimulation of my thought patterns and vision.

But thanks for reassurances and warings. I am probably going to do an extraction in a couple of months on, I was thinking Mimosa Hostils, do you have any suggestions?

Peace
 
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