Padawanbater2
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I don't need the military to protect anything, me, my family or my property. If the organization didn't exist, half the problems wouldn't either, the other half I could solve myself.
What is the Most Extreme Thing You've Ever Seen?
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Teejay13
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Wow I feel sorry for you and all your like minded thinkers. The key word is 'Post' these people did sack up you piece of shit, and then they come back fucked up in the head and are thrown back into society and told to suck it up. Most of us don't talk about it and suffer silently. The stories I posted were the first time I've talked about that shit in three years and I'm still not sure why I shared them (maybe because this site offers a certain amount of anonymity). In any case MOST service members dealing with PTSD have been though some shit I wouldn't wish on many and most are like me where they develop anti social disorders, plagued with panic attacks, loss of sleep, when they are asleep they get to dream of fucked up shit, carry around an assload of survivors guilt, and have severe cognitive behavioral problems. Compound those problems with TBI and you have rite crazy motherfuckers like myself who would just love to meet you in person and show you what else I can do in a basement besides grow some dank. So the next time you see an exsoldier that looks a little off why don't you walk up to him and say the same shit you spew here and see where that gets you you fucking mouth breather!qft
THANK YOU. Fucking sick of people joining the forces without any intention to fight for our country, just because they don't know what they want to do in life.
"Oh waaaaa I saw some carnage and my life was never the same, this country is horrible blah blah"
Sack up "soldier".This isn't a camping trip.
The last person I want defending my rights is some nancy boy.
Xrtnfx
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hahaha i loled
Where do you live man? in a rock somewhere no one can find you? If we didn't have a military then we would be... we would be... canada! lol j/k
ukgrower2110
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dont listen to them, your a hero for what youve done, you fought a fight that your country wanted you too, be proud, yh u saw some fucked up shit, but thats war, i personally have never been in war nor wish to experience it, hold ur head up high and dont listen to the haters.
Padawanbater2
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I'm glad you did man. The soldiers that piss me the fuck off are the ones like the guys I knew in high school. All they want to do is "blow shit up!" - the ones who have never read the Constitution, and couldn't recite half the amendments yet they claim patriotism and ''protecting my rights/freedoms'' as a reason to serve, soiling the good men and women who serve their country proudly and with honor, like doc, and better yet, expect someone like me, who doesn't support the imperialistic way our military handles business to "leave the country". That just seems like extremely flawed logic on their part, to me. They fight blindly without knowing even what they fight for, and expect us to follow suit because they think it's the patriotic thing to do, and anyone who doesn't isn't "American enough"...
You on the other hand made it out alive, fucked up it seems, but who isn't, right?
Between the lines you seem much more rational, to me, than you might think. 
Could you imagine an organization like the Red Cross or the Peace Corps with a budget from the federal government as big as the current military budget is?
How do you think that would change the world?
Xrtnfx
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Oh man, that would be pretty awesome, in fact it would be the most extreme thing I've ever seen lol. No lie, in a perfect world that is what I would love to see. Unfortunately people are not perfect and we most likely will never be. Greed consumes those in power and that greed turns to violence and that violence creates militaries to either be greedy with or protect from those that are. It’s nature, just on a grander scale.
Padawanbater2
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But you have to ask yourself, how does this cycle end? How can we stop it? Is creating the biggest most powerful military the world has ever known the best way to go about ending the continuous cycle of violence since the beginning of human civilization? It's "human nature" - so what? When I hear those words describing a negative aspect of humanity, all I hear is a cop out for something someone doesn't want to change. I'm not speaking personally xrt, just generally. It doesn't matter if it's human nature, we should still try to make it better, we have the ability to do it.
Xrtnfx
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sorry, I meant nature as in animal nature, we just added some fancy weapons and such. I believe that building the biggest most powerful military (in the right hands) is the best way to do it. Just look at what we are doing for Iraq, trying to get them out of their brutal dictatorship and into a more stable form of government. Bad people with the means to control an army are a bad thing for this world and hopefully all of the good nations (sounds lame right? haha) will continue their fight until there is peace.
You know, just think of how the world would be today if [the good] nations didn't stop Hitler and Germany. I feel the same way about stopping the Taliban, Sadam, Osama, and everything else wrong in the world.
MI Bluntsmoker
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Don't be draggin' animals down like that by saying the actions of humans are "animal nature." Animals don't buy into all this morals bullshit. They also don't buy into materialism, or trying to convince their ways on everyonelse. The just do what it takes to live. Eat, sleep, and fuck; sounds way better than all the shit we go through.
Also, about what the whole shock value thing does to people. It proves we are human. A dog will eat the fucking eyeballs out of a deer that gets mangled by a car. It doesnt give a shit, the only reason we give a shit is because our large frontal cortex made us come up with all these crazy ideas we cant back down from no matter how hard we might try.
Xrtnfx
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Animals form groups to protect resources. IE: lions, apes, etc..Apes even have all out wars so to speak over territory. That is what I meant, sorry for the confusion.
Benassi
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Shouldn't of joined then. I can understand people getting drafted who are fucked up, everyone else should know what they could be in for. If some "off" soldier wants to end up behind bars for flipping out like the rest, that's fine with me. He can go in tasting his own dick and blood before he gets a piece of another inmates'.
Regardless, thanks for your efforts inthe force I suppose.
Arrid
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Even if you prepare yourself for the worst, you'll never really know how you'll react until you're actually there and it happens.
Go fuck yourself if you think people who join up are "too pussy" to handle war.
You've gotta be real dumb if you think people join intentionally to end up messed up like some do.
SocataSmoker
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LMAO... okay Rambo!
It seems a few of you aren't getting what Benassi and I are saying... mostly because you don't actually read the posts but just a sentence or two of it and reply to that.
What we're saying is...
When guys and gals who go into the military strictly to pay for college, not because they want to defend and fight for their country, come home from the sandbox and bitch about how "bad" war is, and how "fucked up" OUR country is for sending them there, etc... etc... it pisses us off. Because they wanted to suck off the titty of Uncle Sam and not do the job of the military, which is to protect and defend our country and its citizens.
Sure, they went over and fought and that is always appreciated, but they have no basis for bitching and crying because they thought they were gonna ride the gravy train through college on Uncle Sam's dollar, now they're in a war with their buddies getting pink chested and limbs blown into orbit and then, as I said... they come home and start bitching about how they were forced to commit "murder", and all this other BS you hear all the time from "soldiers" getting back from the sandbox.
We NEED people who like to blow shit up, those are the guys I want next to me when the shit hits the fan, because I know they're not gonna pussy out and start crying for mommy when the going gets tought. They'll be there next to me moving up and taking care of GD business...
Padawanbater2
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So anyone who wants to defend themselves and doesn't want to be forced to rely on the US military is "Rambo" now?
I feel so protected waging a war of aggression on a country that never attacked us (Iraq). As I said before, you seem to have some illusion of what the US military actually does, and what their mission actually is. Look through the history books, we wage wars, steal resources, prop up unofficial governments because they support the corporate cause. The soldiers are just pawns on the battlefield.
It seems you think the job of a soldier is to be some crazy mother fucker who doesn't have a problem killing another human being, and doing so without asking questions or feeling any kind of regret afterward.
Because they realize the reality of the situation. They're the ones who actually go through it.
What kind of world do you live in where it's bad to criticize killing innocent people? Oh I get it... It's necessary. OK..
Right, you'd like a mindless drone of a person who just follows the orders and doesn't think about if any of the people he kills are innocent or not. Yeah, you've stated that much plenty of times. I get it. But what you don't get it this doesn't solve shit and just stacks up the civilian casualty count, and that adds more and more pressure to get shit done faster and even more people get killed in the process. Progress isn't made.
SocataSmoker
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Uh... no... anyone who THINKS they can defend themselves against the evils in the world, I call them Rambo's... except Rambo didn't get killed, you would.
Not sure what history books you're reading... but in MY country's history, we've gone to war to PROTECT the rights of people... not for corporate causes, please... shed light on your sources (as long as they're not tin foil hat sources)
That is the job a soldier ya ignorant fool! What the hell do you think the military is, a flower brigade? Hell fuck no, they kill shit, and a damn good at it! There is a chain of command, and it is followed... if you want to ask questions, go be a protester and stand on the steps of the capitol. When you join a MILITARY, you join to FIGHT and KILL in the name of your country... we are over in the sandbox for DAMN GOOD reasons, you haven't talked to the Iraqi's over there have you? I have! The soldiers over there know of their support, while ignorant civilians such as yourself get your information from the media.It seems you think the job of a soldier is to be some crazy mother fucker who doesn't have a problem killing another human being, and doing so without asking questions or feeling any kind of regret afterward.
Good God... innocent people are killed everyday, especially in war zones... are you imagining that it is just happening nowadays? You do realize innocent people have been killed in war for thousands of years right? No... it's not okay... but it happens, and it doesn't happen on purpose (unless done by a member of the military who should be in the stocks for life) so tough shit, suck it up... say you're sorry, and move on. Hell, at least the ALLIES apologize for civilian casualties... the terrorists LOVE killing their own kind, don't see you hating on them too much for that, are you a Muslim extremist by chance, do you side with the terrorists?
Not a mindless drone, but someone that CAN follow orders, and isn't going to hold anyone back by crying and boohooing because he's having rounds flying over his head. Here's an easy way to tell if someone is innocent or not, if they shoot at you, they're not innocent.
Solving shit isn't done by flowers and cups of tea, we've figured that out long ago... your happy go lucky thoughts of peace are nothing but a grand illusion. Peace will never be attained in this world unless every animal is killed off and the world obliterated... I am sorry to break that news to you, but that's the way it goes.
Build a space ship and go to the moon if you don't like it.
Padawanbater2
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I just smoked a bowl, so I'm not in any kind of arguing mood, I just read your post, it's a little hostile, but whatever, I'm just going to ignore that. Go smoke a bowl before you read this response and don't post back with hostility because if you think about it, what's the point? Lets talk about this like two normal people with differing opinions, does that sound good to you?
I read history books all the time, I'm really interested in root causes of why society and civilization is in the state it's in now and why we've ended up like this. It's my belief that most of the problems that exist, like terrorism, are a result of actions brought upon other societies with extremely different views, which adds to the problem, by the actions of our government and our military. Proponents of increases in the military budget and people who fly "support the troops" banners while, like I mentioned before, have never even read the Constitution, in most cases, believe our actions are the result of outside sources. Right wing groups, conservative groups, big business groups, and religious groups all support this opinion. What do all of them have in common?
I have the right to protect myself. I've never asked anyone to protect me, no other man on this Earth has the obligation to protect me because I'm an American citizen. If his job description says that, then that's his obligation, not mine. I choose to protect myself because I know I will bear the consequences and take the full responsibility for my actions, should I ever have to kill another person. I've never asked, so why should I feel obligated to thank a soldier for actions he may or may not have committed on the battlefield I didn't believe he should have been on in the first place? How can I respect that? how can someone ask me to respect that?
War makes millionaires out of men. Our society says that's good because that's the only way freedom can exist.
If war was all about protecting peoples rights, then how do you explain why our military isn't involved in the crisis in Sudan or Somalia, or in other international locations where human rights abuses are taking place on massive scales? Why do our leaders selectively choose who to go save and who to leave to fend for themselves? What is your answer for that? That's an honest question.
Dude, you should read up on the actual job of the US military... You do not join to fight and kill people in the name of your country.
How is it fair to people who had nothing to do with some conflict to just become a statistic? You don't see anything wrong with that? One day you're just living your life, the next, aircraft from some foreign land carpet bomb your town and you and everyone you know is annihilated. For that to happen, and similar incidents to have happened over thousands of years is OK? I don't understand this perspective. You say "it's not OK, but it happens" and do nothing to prevent it, or for some reason expect that to make it all justified, all OK, even though you say it's not...
You can say drinking and driving is wrong all you want bro, but when you go drinking every weekend and get behind the wheel, I don't think anyone is going to believe you... See what I'm saying..?
The allies was a faction of nations during WW2. By using that word, it illustrates you clearly see some depiction of "good v. evil" in your mind going on in the real world. I'd like to suggest looking at it from an Iraqi or Afghani's perspective. Do you think they believe they are "evil" and we are "good"?
I side with logic. Any innocent deaths are terrible.
When I first read that I was honestly a little bit shocked.
Terrible logic.
I wholeheartedly disagree.
Hydrotech364
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TBI= Traumatic brain Injury.Protecting you and your freedom to express that fucked up opinion.One that you clearly do not deserve.Go Fuck Youreself!
GrowSpecialist
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Yeah I'd have to say the most extreme thing I've seen on the net is the guy holding the other guy down with his boot and cutting his throat out.
The next would probably be the young woman who got shot in Iran during a protest.
2 girls 1 cup
I saw this video once thats just stained in my brain. Its called "Fart Porn". Absolutely disgusting.
Goatsie is in there somewhere.
The next would probably be the young woman who got shot in Iran during a protest.
2 girls 1 cup
I saw this video once thats just stained in my brain. Its called "Fart Porn". Absolutely disgusting.
Goatsie is in there somewhere.
NI420
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My dog jumpin off a 20foot wall, realisin its mistake, tryin to change its mind mid air, then breakin its fall with its head. Thought it was dead for sure, noise sounded like a car crash, landed on concrete, proper impact, it just rose like lazeris up onto its paw no problem this is the only damage, top lip ->
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