What should I do??

hotrodharley

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So my overall take is the plant is basically healthy but hungry and beginning to show it. I was more worried about the slow growth for the buds and hope a better feeding schedule will have an impact on the last month or so of their development. From all accounts the strain is supposed to have darker green leaves. The plant with this one was started 10 days later....it’s color is much darker and the buds are progressing at a faster pace, are better looking in general and smell stronger.
I guess the older leaves will stay pale green but the buds will ripen properly once it starts getting fed enough....
I’m gonna stay with the Fox Farm lineup and increase the amounts, along with a stronger dose of cal mag. Stay tuned and I’ll report back.
A lack of calcium results in slow growth and small plants. Among other things. But don't go overboard with it because it's probably the primary cause of most lockout cases.
 

Bullmark

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A lack of calcium results in slow growth and small plants. Among other things. But don't go overboard with it because it's probably the primary cause of most lockout cases.
Good point...I’ll give a full 1teaspoon/gallon of cal mag, which is 4x my previous Amt. The fox farm blooming nutes call for x amount every watering....I’ve been doing 1/4 of X, every other watering.....so I may give a full dose and see how she responds.
I did notice that since the last feeding, which was thesday, the buds look like they have a bit more color....the tiniest sugar leaves are a healthier green...but still don’t look like the other plant’s.
I’m hoping to feed tomorrow....the pots are feeling almost light enough.
 

hotrodharley

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Good point...I’ll give a full 1teaspoon/gallon of cal mag, which is 4x my previous Amt. The fox farm blooming nutes call for x amount every watering....I’ve been doing 1/4 of X, every other watering.....so I may give a full dose and see how she responds.
I did notice that since the last feeding, which was thesday, the buds look like they have a bit more color....the tiniest sugar leaves are a healthier green...but still don’t look like the other plant’s.
I’m hoping to feed tomorrow....the pots are feeling almost light enough.
The only time I give it for sure is the first 4-5 weeks of flower. I was using AN Jungle Juice running Lucas Formula. The AN Micros seem to have enough of both for most strains in veg. Easier to address a deficiency than fight toxicity.
 

Bullmark

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The only time I give it for sure is the first 4-5 weeks of flower. I was using AN Jungle Juice running Lucas Formula. The AN Micros seem to have enough of both for most strains in veg. Easier to address a deficiency than fight toxicity.
You seem to be a rare combination of a regular to this site and someone who knows what they’re talking about, so I’ll grab your ear (or eyes) again.
I fed the plant yesterday w/ a full dose of the Fox farms bloom nutes and cal mag. Before I did this, I calibrated my ph pen and it was reading around .4 high. In the past I tried to get the ph of my mixtures to 6.0. It’s possible that the minimal nutes that were given was a good bit lower though.
I’m told that the macros and micros need a varying degree of ph....from 6.0-6.6 roughly. I ph’ed this recent full dose at 6.4.
Fox Farms calls for a flush periodically w/ another one of their products (Boomerang). I’m nervous about doing any kind of flushing, mainly b/c it’s not something I’ve done before.
Should I wait and watch or flush the plant considering my low ph feedings in the past??
Thanks a million for your time.....I saw you live in the white North....I assume Canada? The went bow hunting in the Upper Peace River region of N Alberta a few yrs back and it was the most amazing beautiful place. I’m anxious to go back.
 

hotrodharley

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You seem to be a rare combination of a regular to this site and someone who knows what they’re talking about, so I’ll grab your ear (or eyes) again.
I fed the plant yesterday w/ a full dose of the Fox farms bloom nutes and cal mag. Before I did this, I calibrated my ph pen and it was reading around .4 high. In the past I tried to get the ph of my mixtures to 6.0. It’s possible that the minimal nutes that were given was a good bit lower though.
I’m told that the macros and micros need a varying degree of ph....from 6.0-6.6 roughly. I ph’ed this recent full dose at 6.4.
Fox Farms calls for a flush periodically w/ another one of their products (Boomerang). I’m nervous about doing any kind of flushing, mainly b/c it’s not something I’ve done before.
Should I wait and watch or flush the plant considering my low ph feedings in the past??
Thanks a million for your time.....I saw you live in the white North....I assume Canada? The went bow hunting in the Upper Peace River region of N Alberta a few yrs back and it was the most amazing beautiful place. I’m anxious to go back.
Don't flush. Just give plain water. Don't adjust pH. A couple of times of that and you will probably be on track.

Interior Alaska here. Southwest of Fairbanks. Just north of Denali.
 

Bullmark

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Don't flush. Just give plain water. Don't adjust pH. A couple of times of that and you will probably be on track.

Interior Alaska here. Southwest of Fairbanks. Just north of Denali.
Hey man...sorry to bother u again, but I wanted to clarify some advice. If u recall one of my plants is fading/a few brown blotches/purple stems and some purple developing on the secondary branches...in mid to late flower. Just passed week 9, it’s an auto, so hypothetically should be close to done soon according to the breeder, but I know it’ll be done when it’s done. Anyway, I gave it a good round of bloom nutes. Two of the 3 plants were fading and it appears that one has stopped, although the buds don’t look like they’re progressing. The bigger problem plant really hasn’t changed much, but if anything, it’s fading a smidge more. Plus after feeding the top leaves are canoeing a bit.
With the buds showing no change in the past week or so, and the yellowing/spots/purple stems and branches, it seems like some sort of lockout.
Do u still say give it straight water the next time? If so, I can give distilled, RO, or tap. My tap is very hard...ppm is 144......of course I can ph whatever I give. Last ?, if I give straight water, should I give it to Runoff?
If my buds were progressing I wouldn’t worry so much about fading but I’ve seen no noticeable difference in the buds for last 8-10 days.
Thanks again man....cheers
 

hotrodharley

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Hey man...sorry to bother u again, but I wanted to clarify some advice. If u recall one of my plants is fading/a few brown blotches/purple stems and some purple developing on the secondary branches...in mid to late flower. Just passed week 9, it’s an auto, so hypothetically should be close to done soon according to the breeder, but I know it’ll be done when it’s done. Anyway, I gave it a good round of bloom nutes. Two of the 3 plants were fading and it appears that one has stopped, although the buds don’t look like they’re progressing. The bigger problem plant really hasn’t changed much, but if anything, it’s fading a smidge more. Plus after feeding the top leaves are canoeing a bit.
With the buds showing no change in the past week or so, and the yellowing/spots/purple stems and branches, it seems like some sort of lockout.
Do u still say give it straight water the next time? If so, I can give distilled, RO, or tap. My tap is very hard...ppm is 144......of course I can ph whatever I give. Last ?, if I give straight water, should I give it to Runoff?
If my buds were progressing I wouldn’t worry so much about fading but I’ve seen no noticeable difference in the buds for last 8-10 days.
Thanks again man....cheers
Post some pictures for better advice. But your tap EC is fine to use.
 

Bullmark

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Part of me wants to believe that this pheno is just slow to finish and the fading is natural end of cycle fading......but the little to no change in the buds contradicts that thought.
 

hotrodharley

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Part of me wants to believe that this pheno is just slow to finish and the fading is natural end of cycle fading......but the little to no change in the buds contradicts that thought.
Long skinny leaves say sativa dominant. Flower development can be slow but the buds look healthy. I would consider a flower feeding at this point and I would only go 50% of what is recommended.
 

Bullmark

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Long skinny leaves say sativa dominant. Flower development can be slow but the buds look healthy. I would consider a flower feeding at this point and I would only go 50% of what is recommended.
All 3 plants are from the same seed pack, two are identical but the third is way different. It’s 11 days younger than the other two, has a much darker green color and the buds are maturing faster and their smell and looks are much more to my liking..
You can see from the pic what I’m talking about. The plant has gotten the exact same care as her pale sisters. Go figure.....the smallest is the best. FFB39D7D-DDF2-4FDA-AE13-22A673C1DBD2.jpeg
 

hotrodharley

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All 3 plants are from the same seed pack, two are identical but the third is way different. It’s 11 days younger than the other two, has a much darker green color and the buds are maturing faster and their smell and looks are much more to my liking..
You can see from the pic what I’m talking about. The plant has gotten the exact same care as her pale sisters. Go figure.....the smallest is the best. View attachment 5051994
Different phenos. This is when being able to look at each plant and know what you're looking at pays off. Ran some Pineapple Fields a couple of years ago. Seed pack given to me. It was a partial pack I should say. I thought someone had put seeds from their tray in there. Grew 5 and none were alike. Turns out there's 4 main phenos. But before there was a review I'm chopping one fully ripe with another that needed two more weeks to finish.
 

Bullmark

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Long skinny leaves say sativa dominant. Flower development can be slow but the buds look healthy. I would consider a flower feeding at this point and I would only go 50% of what is recommended.
All 3 plants are from the same seed pack, two are identical but the third is way different. It’s 11 days younger than the other two, has a much darker green color and the buds are maturing faster and their smell and looks are much more to my liking..
You can see from the pic what I’m talking about. The plant has gotten the exact same care as her pale sisters. Go figure.....the smallest is the best.
 

hotrodharley

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All 3 plants are from the same seed pack, two are identical but the third is way different. It’s 11 days younger than the other two, has a much darker green color and the buds are maturing faster and their smell and looks are much more to my liking..
You can see from the pic what I’m talking about. The plant has gotten the exact same care as her pale sisters. Go figure.....the smallest is the best.
Different phenos most likely.
 

Bullmark

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Different phenos most likely.
So I wanted to give an update and ask another ?.
I fed the plants Friday and I think I may see a tiny bit of progression in the bud development. Two of the plants virtually identical except for the yellowing leaves. The buds are very close to the same stage and their look is the same. There’s the problem plant with yellowing leaves and brown spots, and the other which has no noticeable yellowing. The buds are still just a wave of white hairs. I was hoping they would fatten up more....they are quite hard when squeezed, which I don’t do often. It makes me wonder if perhaps my PH is low and they’re not getting the nutes to grow the buds as large....which would explain the slow development.
The pots are feeling light again and I’ll probably have to water or feed tomorrow.
Take a look at these buds....the healthier plant’s buds are a touch further along but still not fattening.
What should I do?? Or are my expectations unrealistic? I am providing plenty of light....they’re just not growing to their potential...in my eyes at least. 15DE0D65-EBF9-4B17-9DD4-D875AB9C9D1C.jpegA5ED03A1-9B5F-4B32-BF7A-DAD6CA99F9A1.jpeg
 

Bullmark

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Thanks...I’m gonna keep feeding until they’re ripe....then maybe water only a time or two before chop.
 
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