What was the fight between God and Satan about?

Greatest I am

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What was the fight between God and Satan about?

Let us remember that no one was there to record anything and we have to somehow explain why God put Satan in Eden. Everything said is thus speculation only, --- be it from me or from you.

I think the disagreement between God and Satan was because Satan did not want to meet up with God in Eden where he was told to insure that A & E sin, --- so that God could murder Jesus and Adam and Eve as he had planned to do even before the first sin.

God wanted to self-aggrandise himself and Satan thought that that was going too far, and saw his placement in Eden by God as a horrible sin on God's part.

Satan did not want to be seen helping God do such a vile thing to A & E or have the world think of him as evil as God, --- via his collusion with God in murder.

Satan had his pride and morals to think of and did not want God to murder Jesus and Adam and Eve just for God’s own overinflated pride.

Rev 13; 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

Note that God had decided to have Jesus murdered before the foundation of the earth and even the potential for sin.

Quite insane and immoral that, --- if any of my speculation is true.

Do you have a better speculation?

Is Satan showing a better morals position than God, --- in not wanting to tempt A & E, --- and set up Jesus to be sacrificed?

There is a hymn called Exsultet that calls Adam’s sin necessary to God’s plan and a happy fault that it happened.

Was Adam’s sin a necessary and a happy fault as theExsultet hymn says?

Regards
DL
 

mr sunshine

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What was the fight between God and Satan about?

Let us remember that no one was there to record anything and we have to somehow explain why God put Satan in Eden. Everything said is thus speculation only, --- be it from me or from you.

I think the disagreement between God and Satan was because Satan did not want to meet up with God in Eden where he was told to insure that A & E sin, --- so that God could murder Jesus and Adam and Eve as he had planned to do even before the first sin.

God wanted to self-aggrandise himself and Satan thought that that was going too far, and saw his placement in Eden by God as a horrible sin on God's part.

Satan did not want to be seen helping God do such a vile thing to A & E or have the world think of him as evil as God, --- via his collusion with God in murder.

Satan had his pride and morals to think of and did not want God to murder Jesus and Adam and Eve just for God’s own overinflated pride.

Rev 13; 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

Note that God had decided to have Jesus murdered before the foundation of the earth and even the potential for sin.

Quite insane and immoral that, --- if any of my speculation is true.

Do you have a better speculation?

Is Satan showing a better morals position than God, --- in not wanting to tempt A & E, --- and set up Jesus to be sacrificed?

There is a hymn called Exsultet that calls Adam’s sin necessary to God’s plan and a happy fault that it happened.

Was Adam’s sin a necessary and a happy fault as theExsultet hymn says?

Regards
DL


U shuld be asking, what was the fight between my mom and dad about? It was about you!
 

Sand4x105

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Satan is like the whinning bitch x wife in the garden....
God needed to bitch slap him a few....
It's about control numbness...
God wants to control you, and satan wants to control you...
The fight between God/Satan is about free will....
If you do not listen to gods or satans voice, you are exercising free will...
Carry on, it's that simple....
 

eye exaggerate

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Sensation. The fight 'was' about sensation. Satan is the skin. The skin is the point of contact between inner and outer worlds.

Uncreated - Potentiality - Created
 

Greatest I am

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Satan is like the whinning bitch x wife in the garden....
God needed to bitch slap him a few....
It's about control numbness...
God wants to control you, and satan wants to control you...
The fight between God/Satan is about free will....
If you do not listen to gods or satans voice, you are exercising free will...
Carry on, it's that simple....
How un-Christian to seek the freedom promised by God. Oh wait, as you pointed out, God promises slavery and not freedom. Regards DL
 

Greatest I am

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Sensation. The fight 'was' about sensation. Satan is the skin. The skin is the point of contact between inner and outer worlds.

Uncreated - Potentiality - Created
Rather esoteric. I like it. After all, Satan and fire are the purifiers of our notions and the skin is a firewall, in the alchemical sense, to input of both mental and physical attributes. Regards DL
 

Zaehet Strife

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[h=1]What was the fight between God and Satan about?[/h]

Whether or not the toilet seat should be left up or down.
 

grimreefer24601

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Satan was not in the Garden of Eden.

(Kindle English Standard Version)GENESIS 3 Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the LORD God had made.

He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?” And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, ‘ You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’” But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate. Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths.

It was a serpent. No mention of satan, the advasary, the unholiest of unholy.

I can't believe I'm quoting answersingenesis.com but here goes,

"The first use of the name Satan is found in 1 Chronicles 21:1; chronologically, Job, which was written much earlier, surpasses this. Satan is found throughout Job 1 and Job 2. Satan literally means “adversary” in Hebrew.
Another name appears in the Old Testament in the King James Version:

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! (Isaiah 14:12; KJV).​
This is the only passage that uses the name Lucifer to refer to Satan. This name doesn’t come from Hebrew but Latin. Perhaps this translation into English was influenced by the Latin Vulgate, which uses this name. In Latin, Lucifer means “light bringer.”

The Hebrew is heylel and means “light bearer,” “shining one,” or “morning star.” Many modern translations translate this as star of the morning or morning star. In this passage, heylel refers to the king of Babylon and Satan figuratively. Of course, Jesus lays claim to this title in Revelation 22:16. Though the passage in Revelation is in Greek while the passage in Isaiah is Hebrew, both are translated similarly.

Some believe that Lucifer was a heavenly or angelic name that was taken from Satan when he rebelled. The Bible doesn’t explicitly state this, though Satan is nowhere else referred to as Lucifer but instead is called other names like the devil, Satan, etc. This tradition may hold some truth, although the idea seems to miss that this verse is referring to him during and after his fall—not before. Since other scriptural passages refer to him as Satan, Lucifer wasn’t necessarily his pre-Fall name any more than Satan would be. "


One must also address the meaning of the original word,

(Wikipedia, good source if you source it's sources) "The original Hebrew term, satan, is a noun from a verb meaning primarily to, “obstruct, oppose,” as it is found in Numbers 22:22, 1 Samuel 29:4, Psalms 109:6.[SUP][/SUP] Ha-Satan is traditionally translated as “the accuser,” or “the adversary.” The definite article “ha-,” English “the," is used to show that this is a title bestowed on a being, versus the name of a being. Thus this being would be referred to as “the satan.”[SUP]"[/SUP]

So we can really see the idea/concept of satan/the advasary came well after the Genesis account. The first believers probably thought of their monotheistic God as having to sides, good and evil. Or a least expected him to behave in a human manor, sometimes good, sometimes evil. Really, this would ruin a lot of atheistic debates. At least any that revolved around God being good.

If you're coming from a religious stand point, God is Satan. God made Satan. God devised all the evil that Satan would do. God then created a being that would wreak that evil upon you. Who's the evil one?

Come on? Really? If God is good, all powerful, and omniscient, then why did he make Satan?
 

bioWheel

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Maybe Eve really didn't bite into an apple. Maybe, she smoked some weed and God got mad because Satan must have shown her matches. :-D
 

SeniorFrostyKush

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Why would a loving and caring God, create a "hell" for his own children to be banished to, so that they can be brutally tortured and suffer unmercifully for all of eternity?? And all of this for doing something as trivial as "sinning", or for NOT accepting Jesus Christ as one's "savior"?..... Now tell me, if God is a being of pure love and light, then how could he possibly prearrange and befall this ABOMINABLE fate on his so called children???.... This is a contradiction that is impossible to get past, if you TRULY believe in a God that's suppose to be "the embodiment of good".
 
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