What Went Wrong (The Real Reason)..

Unclebaldrick said:

There certainly was a difficulty getting people enthusiastic about her. Her campaign at the lowest levels operated with grim determination rather than dedicated energy for the candidate.

I think losing might have been a good thing. We'll see. It depends on how badly Trump fucks it up.

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Uhh, no. Maybe in the long run. In the short run, we are going to see a lot of movement backward. As in:
The Mike Pence (Donald Trump) Assault On LGBTQ Equality Is Already Underway
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-assault-lgbtq-equality_us_58275a17e4b02d21bbc8ff9b

Abandoning the global warming treaty is a totally irreversible harm.

The president likes the idea of using torture on his enemies.

That said, I hope you are right.

doublejj said:

the middle class has gotten little help from the government for years, while watching the poor make gains & the rich get richer.....they revolted

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Do you think the poor have made gains? I don't think so. What I saw was more middle class joining the ranks of the working poor.

Indacouch said:

Well if anyone thought there was some crooked shit going on with votes I'd start with the people in the cemetery .....and the rural whites who say they don't trust/want/ anything to do with government/politics

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Informed people don't think that.

Fogdog said:

Informed people don't think that.

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I could give a shit about trump Hillary or any politics bullshit for that matter ....there just seems to tons of excuses and opinions on why things went the way they did ......I just laugh a little cause rural white people having that impact on the outcome sounds funny .....fuck politics rite in the pussy ....I'm rural

Indacouch said:

I could give a shit about trump Hillary or any politics bullshit for that matter ....there just seems to tons of excuses and opinions on why things went the way they did ......I just laugh a little cause rural white people having that impact on the outcome sounds funny .....fuck politics rite in the pussy ....I'm rural

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well it wasn't urban blacks/minorities that put trump into office...

Indacouch said:

Well if anyone thought there was some crooked shit going on with votes I'd start with the people in the cemetery .....and the rural whites who say they don't trust/want/ anything to do with government/politics

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That was true, until they began to feel left behind or not respected. As unbelievable as it is, Trump spoke to these people. That coupled with a deep complacency in the DNC. Whoops! Which apparently still hasn't hit home, because there is already talk of Dean and Kaine running for DNC chairman. Moveon.org and Micheal Moore are both backing rep. Keith Ellison, and arevcalling for total house cleaning, including a progressive platform to combat conservative agendas in the coming years.

Indacouch said:

I could give a shit about trump Hillary or any politics bullshit for that matter ....there just seems to tons of excuses and opinions on why things went the way they did ......I just laugh a little cause rural white people having that impact on the outcome sounds funny .....fuck politics rite in the pussy ....I'm rural

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It's true that when you have nothing you have nothing to lose. Small comfort but something.

It wasn't rural whites that affected this election, it was post industrial rust belt states that tipped the balance of power. Things really have gotten worse for them and it's been going backwards for them for about 40 years. For you and yours, it's been more than a hundred years since rural agricultural populations of this country were of consequence. I find it amusing that you take comfort in this fact.

At least we can both agree that your demographic are insignificant.

Fogdog said:

It's true that when you have nothing you have nothing to lose. Small comfort but something.

It wasn't rural whites that affected this election, it was post industrial rust belt states that tipped the balance of power. Things really have gotten worse for them and it's been going backwards for them for about 40 years. For you and yours, it's been more than a hundred years since rural agricultural populations of this country were of consequence. I find it amusing that you take comfort in this fact.

At least we can both agree that your demographic are insignificant.

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Lol

Oh, you wore out yours so now you want mine? Sorry but she's taken. She married a smart well educated man that she met in her graduate studies. They are doing well. She might hire you to do some yard work if you need work. Are you licensed and in good standing with the BBB? She won't just hire a total unknown.

doublejj said:

well it wasn't urban blacks/minorities that put trump into office...

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Rural whites is obviously a broad term on here ........whites would be more accurate .....rural whites makes so sense due to the fact everything is becoming developed anyways ....which is sad


I'm in Cali ...so I'm not rural enough to think of goat fucking like zedd ....

schuylaar said:

I keep hearing this from pundits..it MAY have been:

• The FBI Letter
• Benghazi
• Vince Foster

I understand they have a job to do, election is over and they still must sell advertising..but do you want to know the REAL reason Clinton lost?

Clinton 60.4 million votes
Trump 60 million votes











































120 million votes stayed home because they weren't going to accept being TOLD who to vote for..this is a wake-up call for the DNC!

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Propaganda went wrong . Trump is more crooked then Hilary yet all we heard was cooked Hilary Trump's

schuylaar said:

I keep hearing this from pundits..it MAY have been:

• The FBI Letter
• Benghazi
• Vince Foster

I understand they have a job to do, election is over and they still must sell advertising..but do you want to know the REAL reason Clinton lost?

Clinton 60.4 million votes
Trump 60 million votes











































120 million votes stayed home because they weren't going to accept being TOLD who to vote for..this is a wake-up call for the DNC!

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Propaganda went wrong . Trump is way more crooked then Hilary but all we heard was crooked Hillary. Then there was the use of the old campaigns against Democrats that where racist and the use of rebel tactics stolen from the left and Bernie coming into it and out of it how that happened made an open wound exposed that the right exploited.
Sure having a scandal (the emails) didn't help . And the Clinton's campaign did not address the propaganda enough. And there was the one about bill creating the bad laws like 3 strikes and the Hillary campaign did not address those things.

Fogdog said:

it's been more than a hundred years since rural agricultural populations of this country were of consequence.

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you don't eat meat or vegetable? no fruits, or bread? no canned goods?

all of that comes from rural agricultural populations of this country. you don't farm asphalt, and livestock doesn't do very well in apartment buildings...

i'd say that rural farming america is responsible for your survival. you can't live without food, and food doesn't grow from city streets...

heckler73 said:

How many dead people voted in this election?

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I dunno. did you?

doublejj said:

the middle class has gotten little help from the government for years, while watching the poor make gains & the rich get richer.....they revolted

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And they/we will continue to until we're actually listened to.

cat of curiosity said:

you don't eat meat or vegetable? no fruits, or bread? no canned goods?

all of that comes from rural agricultural populations of this country. you don't farm asphalt, and livestock doesn't do very well in apartment buildings...

i'd say that rural farming america is responsible for your survival. you can't live without food, and food doesn't grow from city streets...

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You might be amazed how much food is imported.

ttystikk said:

You might be amazed how much food is imported.

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Very true but take that out of the equation and it's a very valid point .....and the way things are strange lately I wouldn't be suprised by anything

UncleBuck said:

you live among them and still rely on food stamps from the federal government.

LOL

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Hillary lost and you keep posting?

ttystikk said:

You might be amazed how much food is imported.

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i wouldn't. foods of various ethnic groups are imported, because it cannot be produced here. but i think you might be amazed at just how much ISN'T imported, and comes from right here in the USA. delmonte has a hold on lake lure nc, tomatoes grown on a flat of river basin. case farms produce a shit ton of chicken for tyson and a few others...

lots of rural land, and hard working individuals striving to bring in a harvest or herd, so you have groceries in your stores.

it's not like star trek, no matter re-sequencers and shit. real food, grown for real, really american.

schuylaar said:

Thank you!

Schuylaar - 1
Dolts - 0

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You got my vote. And I don't care who you voted for. The other two, well thats a no brainier.

schuylaar said:

I keep hearing this from pundits..it MAY have been:

• The FBI Letter
• Benghazi
• Vince Foster

I understand they have a job to do, election is over and they still must sell advertising..but do you want to know the REAL reason Clinton lost?

Clinton 60.4 million votes
Trump 60 million votes
120 million votes stayed home because they weren't going to accept being TOLD who to vote for..this is a wake-up call for the DNC!

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Nothing went wrong, the premise is flawed.