What's the worst strain and breeder you've dealt with?

bigv1976 said:

It is amazing to me that you can have 200 people have amazing grows with a strain and then a guy that doesnt even have a single succesful grow under their belt will completely shit on a company without ever considering that they just dont know how to grow. Lets take Killing Fields for an example. I have seen at least 50 awesome grows of Killing fields including 3 of my own and because YOU cant even get through the germination process or because YOU fuck with your plants til they hermi all of the sudden Killing Fields is bad genetics. Can we get someone shitting on Chem Dog please cuz I havent quite laughed hard enough to piss my pants yet but that will certainly do it.

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HSO CHEMDAWG? DUDS!!! ordered 1 no luck, replacement no luck. They don't replace replacements. Well maybe ill try Cannaventure Chemdawg infused with garlic next time.

ghs white rhino was a total waste of time and space. Have not given Arjan a dime since!

Ive never boght seeds i didnt like. i will not buy barneys. derry is a total queer. the names and pictures sound great, but ive never had good shit that was a barney strain sweet tooth has bounced around town a couple times, girls like it for its taste, but the high is shit. some of his phenos are suposedly mouth watering. i dont give a fuck what anyone says, somas nyc diesil is mouth watering. it just grows to tall for my space. i have some mandalas satori going now. smell and taste amazing. great high. this thread is primo tho. warns people about all the shit out there. i dont trust bad reports from 1 or 2 growers, who knows if they are stupid, dirty or doing something else to fuck up. but when many say the same thing i start to beleive. however, greenhouse gets mixxed reviews. i bought their gear before ever joining this site, or hearing all thier negative press. with them, ive had great luck. the plants i got are exactly what they sold me. if its not in the breeder pack from them, beware. who knows if people are stitching them. one thing ive noticed tho, the breeders with the really pretty looking packs( like barneys) usually have bad ratings. spending more money marketing thier shit, than on development of their gear. maybe that or not enough love. who can say for sure. As far as greenhouse tho, read tge mandala germ guide on their site. i killd more than a few seeds with rockwool, paper towels and peat. Drop the seeds right in your media and save them tonnes of stress. With greenhouse, i get perfect results doing this. i like thier genetics. im all on a mandala and greenhouse trip. im trying my first breeding program with satori and super bud.

so you're bigoted to a homosexual but ride a egomaniacs nuts....go figure

Well, like everyone else, I like to read opinions on everything and take it with a grain of salt, wait until I have a shaker full, and then mark that vendor as not worth my time. I will say, by far, the BEST I have ever dealt with is Soma seeds, they are great, good communication, and all of the seeds I have got from them have done great, even the freebies. My advice for what it is worth, go with someone that you have experience with, take chances with others when you don't have anything to lose and aren't depending on it to make or break ya. I will buy a few seeds from other companies, there are a couple of strains I would like to try, but would I plan my whole bread and butter around those purchases? hell no. Just my thoughts.

K

^ did you buy direct from Soma?????

Kite High said:

so you're bigoted to a homosexual but ride a egomaniacs nuts....go figure

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when i said queer, i meant it as in weirdo. I have no problem with homosexuals. and as far as riding a egomaniacs nuts,
read my thread about arjan. i think calling himself the king of cannabis is a shitty joke. i wont deny he is full of himself, however, i have had nothing but great luck with their products. and btw if you think im a beginner who dosent know anything, ive grown somas nyc diesel. i have mandalas satori and gannesh growing right beside the gh. the greenhouse i got are just as good as the rest. i talk from my personal experience. as far as the barney go, ive smoked tonnes of barnes strains, and wasnt impressed. ive never heard anything good, or ever seen any quality product that came from a barneys strain. i only promote greenhouse as i have had GREAT results with them. they are by no means my favorite, but ive had sucsess.

For me, dutch passion blueberries, it's like a woman with PMS, you even look at them wrong and you have a whole world of shit heading your way! in the end I threw them in the bin!

I can list just more than one shitty strain and breeder to be honest , the way things work in this time and era is not in our favor .. I think most breeders that have large facilities tend to have stray pollen and a shit load of over pollinating taking place from my experience , even some of the best went big and now there gear is like a roll of the dice sad to say ..

I grew up growing bag seeds and land races , most of the beans I threw away are now par for sale .. Bullshit it is and I hate just about all commercial breeders in this day and age with exceptions for those such as Dj Short for example, those that have limited there production numbers for quality purposes and are true to there customers and the culture with all loyalty !

The majority of commercial seeds are made by outsourced growers in Spain and Holland sad to say .. I want beans from the source and I accept no bullshit or traded off work ..

I grew out the doctor from green house seeds and it's pretty fantastic. I don't really hear a lot of good things about them but my experience with that one seed was awesome. The smell is horrible. The worst smelling weed I've encountered but the effect is knockout. I would grow it again. Maybe I got lucky

TH Seeds: Burmese Kush. 5 pack of females, all hermie around week 5 of bloom. REALLY hard to spot!!!

Spice of Life Seeds: Bluebonic. 12 regular seeds, only 3 sprouted (I've sprouted hundreds of seeds).

Samwell Seed Well said:

some breeder create . . . . . some cuts are no longer avaialble and have been kept and taken care of for decades . . . . idk, if people/breeders tke these and use them without permission its the same as any other theft(and im talkin g about theft from the breeder either in lies or straight up stealing it

if not worse as it is a specific attack on the profession of the breeder who worked to create vs copy

genetics is not a blanket statement, a f7 Jack H is way different then f3 and what males and what lines were used to stabilize or breeder vigor into a plant, every plant with a similar genetic stor4y is not the same imho and the work our breeders do deserves to be respected . . .. . its breeders that steal others work that say its genetics not your baby

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So who stole the original original ORIGINAL OG Kush from God?

If that's what you're saying to me right now.

Breeders copy breeders like Adam begat Seth.
It is not a fucking business. It is horticulture.
One strain cannot be owned by any one person.
If you notice every other facet of gardening, no one
owns a particular apple tree or cherry tree. Etc. Etc.
People have (to hold or maintain as a possession, privilege, or entitlement)
these trees and sell or give away seeds.
They do not own (to have or possess as property; to have control over) them.
They are from that tree, not the people.

Just like people plant a seed from a fruit they ate;
or the way plants sprout out of bird shit; it's from the earth.
Bees pollinate flowers, as do birds, and grasshoppers, and
God only knows what all else. Would then, the bees be guilty
in a court of law for taking pollen from a Barney's Farm male,
and alighting on a TGA Jillybean female? If he is thusly robbing
the work of a breeder, and giving it freely to another breeder;
it is obviously stealing and should be thrown in bee jail.

Happy #420 post! yay.

Happy 420

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/plant/
Plant Patent Info and Laws

And now we have a company making Sativex and they have geneticaly fingerprinted two strains in case of theft lol .. Silly world we live in aye !

either dr grinspoon by barneys or holy grail kush by dna genetics. although i cant really blame the breeder. grinspoon is a bitch to grow. 1 of 3 turned out ok, the other 2 had almost no buds. but it is pure heirloom sativa. for the holy grail kush the seed was cracked. i got 3 from the single seed centre. maybe it got crushed in shipping i dunno. i told them but waited too long so they couldnt do nothing. but ever since the single seed centre wraps the packages in bubble wrap and it has been fine. i dont really try too many other seed companies. i like to just get anything by tga subcool from the single seed centre. they're both very reputable. im too scared to get fucked over or jepordize my credit card. i hear of a lot of these companies just take your money and send you either nothing or a bag seed they label as northern lights or hindu kush when it's just a random bag seed. i'll let other people take those chances with the less reputable companies. a lot of these companies on the net also have fake review. some people even think single seed centre is a scam but i assure you it is legit. yes you can just order 1 single seed but you pay up the arse for shipping for that 1 seed. all the free seeds i got from the single seed centre have been good except one time a gnomoautomatic didnt germinate. could have been me though that fucked up. kannabia is a decent company although fem seeds turn me off.

ProfessorPotSnob said:

Happy 420

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/plant/
Plant Patent Info and Laws

And now we have a company making Sativex and they have geneticaly fingerprinted two strains in case of theft lol .. Silly world we live in aye !

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GW won another one yesterday. They got their Sativex down as schedule 4, meaning its not the same as sched 1 . All they claim is clean and effective, nout else.
So does this make consentrates legal??? Not unless you own a corporation



http://www.pharmatimes.com/Article/13-04-11/Home_Offices_eases_restrictions_on_GW_s_Sativex.aspx

dolamic said:

So who stole the original original ORIGINAL OG Kush from God?

If that's what you're saying to me right now.

Breeders copy breeders like Adam begat Seth.
It is not a fucking business. It is horticulture.
One strain cannot be owned by any one person.
If you notice every other facet of gardening, no one
owns a particular apple tree or cherry tree. Etc. Etc.
People have (to hold or maintain as a possession, privilege, or entitlement)
these trees and sell or give away seeds.
They do not own (to have or possess as property; to have control over) them.
They are from that tree, not the people.

Just like people plant a seed from a fruit they ate;
or the way plants sprout out of bird shit; it's from the earth.
Bees pollinate flowers, as do birds, and grasshoppers, and
God only knows what all else. Would then, the bees be guilty
in a court of law for taking pollen from a Barney's Farm male,
and alighting on a TGA Jillybean female? If he is thusly robbing
the work of a breeder, and giving it freely to another breeder;
it is obviously stealing and should be thrown in bee jail.

Happy #420 post! yay.

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I disagree. Same as breeding horses or dogs. If you do the work and create something, then you get the rewards.

I wouldn't say it was a "horrible experience" but the worst I have delt with is Barney's Farm pineapple chunk. Was supposed to be Indica and finished in 55 days. Well it seemed very Sativa like, grew huge, and finished about 3-4 weeks after every other strain.... It was the week before thanksgiving when I chopped it and it still didn't look quite ready. But the weather was killing it. It was very disease and mould resistant. I wouldn't mind growing it again but it would have to be an indoor grow so it will probably never happen.

althor said:

I disagree. Same as breeding horses or dogs. If you do the work and create something, then you get the rewards.

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I disagree with you, on these grounds.

You speak as if; I create a child then I could sell him since I created him. Right?
Maybe I could get a patent on my son so that no one else could create one
like the one I created. If anyone did create a son like mine, I could sue them!

Also, animals are different from plants.

Thank you.

-dolamic

dolamic said:

I disagree with you, on these grounds.

You speak as if; I create a child then I could sell him since I created him. Right?
Maybe I could get a patent on my son so that no one else could create one
like the one I created. If anyone did create a son like mine, I could sue them!

Also, animals are different from plants.

Thank you.

-dolamic

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How does children come into play? That is one of those super extreme examples....

and we have monsanto suing farmers for saving seeds instead of buying new ones each year. imagine getting sued for cloning instead of buying crappy seeds from unreputable companies. how awful.