When do you get a soul??

Kaendar

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You don't either. And that's fine as long as you accept criticism and don't insult people. We accept criticism. Go ahead, ask me a question. I'll give you an honest answer.
Ok. Im looking for a 2nd opinion. Can you judge someone entire character based on their opinions on 2 or 3 topics? For instance.. can you call someone a hypocrite because they say they hate smoking, but are seen smoking a joint, all because they didnt specify that they hated smoking cigarettes? Can you call someone a pathological liar because they say that they believe that murder is wrong, but they still love and forgive everyone, including murderers??
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Ok. Im looking for a 2nd opinion. Can you judge someone entire character based on their opinions on 2 or 3 topics? For instance.. can you call someone a hypocrite because they say they hate smoking, but are seen smoking a joint, all because they didnt specify that they hated smoking cigarettes? Can you call someone a pathological liar because they say that they believe that murder is wrong, but they still love and forgive everyone, including murderers??
For that, no. But that was never the issue. Stop peeing on folks' legs and complaining about the rain. cn
 

Hepheastus420

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Ok. Im looking for a 2nd opinion. Can you judge someone entire character based on their opinions on 2 or 3 topics? For instance.. can you call someone a hypocrite because they say they hate smoking, but are seen smoking a joint, all because they didnt specify that they hated smoking cigarettes? Can you call someone a pathological liar because they say that they believe that murder is wrong, but they still love and forgive everyone, including murderers??
So are we. We're open to second opinions. We won't freak out when given one though.

Yes you can. The person who "hates smoking" is a hypocrite since they're smoking. They could take it offensively, but it's only the truth.

How are they lying? My answer would be no.. But what does that have to do with what I'm saying?
 

Kaendar

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For that, no. But that was never the issue. Stop peeing on folks' legs and complaining about the rain. cn
Its the same thing. Im assuming your false judgement that im a pathological liar stems from the fact I think being gay is wrong, but I also say that i love and tolerate everybody.. Your never ending witty remarks and swift comebacks seem to be wilting. I always thought you were the coolest and most level headed person on here, but lately your un justifiable judgments have lowered my respect.
 

Kaendar

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So are we. We're open to second opinions. We won't freak out when given one though.

Yes you can. The person who "hates smoking" is a hypocrite since they're smoking. They could take it offensively, but it's only the truth.

How are they lying? My answer would be no.. But what does that have to do with what I'm saying?
Technically a hypocrite, but it depends on everyones mood lol.. and thanks for the second part, thats what I thought.
 

Hepheastus420

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Technically a hypocrite, but it depends on everyones mood lol.. and thanks for the second part, thats what I thought.
Your're welcome? I didn't know that question had an agenda. But even if it did, I shouldn't give a dishonest asnwer.

I think I have a clue what your agenda was now.. Not sure if what I'm about to say makes sense because I might be off but here it goes... Being gay isn't anywhere near as wrong as killing.
 

Kaendar

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Your're welcome? I didn't know that question had an agenda. But even if it did, I shouldn't give a dishonest asnwer.

I think I have a clue what your agenda was now.. Not sure if what I'm about to say makes sense because I might be off but here it goes... Being gay isn't anywhere near as wrong as killing.
Dont worry, thats not what I was getting at.
 

Hepheastus420

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Dont worry, thats not what I was getting at.
So why did you thank me? Nevermind, it's probably not important. But do you understand that we can do without the insults now? It's fine if you ask us questions. So it should be fine if we can ask you questions without the feeling of "walking on thin ice".
 

Kaendar

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So why did you thank me? Nevermind, it's probably not important. But do you understand that we can do without the insults now? It's fine if you ask us questions. So it should be fine if we can ask you questions without the feeling of "walking on thin ice".
I dont mind asking questions, it creates discussion. What I mind is when people ask the same question 20 times and think there is nothing wrong with that.
 

Kaendar

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What question has been asked 20 times? Did you give the question an answer?
When people constantly say over and over and over that believing in religion is wrong because it isnt rational. One or 2 times is enough, it doesnt need to be repeated on every thread.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
What question has been asked 20 times? Did you give the question an answer?
Ever watch political debates? They answer, but somehow the answer has nothing at all to do with the question. Repeat the question and watch a politician (an unseasoned one) get offended. The seasoned ones take the opportunity to launch off into another prepared irrelevancy. cn
 

Kaendar

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Ever watch political debates? They answer, but somehow the answer has nothing at all to do with the question. Repeat the question and watch a politician (an unseasoned one) get offended. The seasoned ones take the opportunity to launch off into another prepared irrelevancy. cn
What about rhetorical questions?
 

Hepheastus420

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When people constantly say over and over and over that believing in religion is wrong because it isnt rational. One or 2 times is enough, it doesnt need to be repeated on every thread.
It's just an opinion. Like I said, you voice yours and say we're wrong. There's nothing wrong with that unless you get offended by criticism and alternate opinions.

If you get to say something, then we get to go against it if we wish. I don't see anybody constantly telling you you're wrong without a response by you. Do you think people would keep saying your views are wrong if you stopped expressing them? Of course not, it would be pointless.
You voice your opinion and it get critiqued. You then say no my opinion is right. Then your opinion gets critiqued again.
So yeah people keep telling you you're not thinking rationally, but you're not doing anything different. By arguing your opinions, you go against another person's opinions. It's called debate. Debate doesn't need insults though.

Not sure if I made sense so let me say it in a shorter version. If you keep saying that your opinions are right, others get to keep saying they're wrong.
 

Kaendar

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It's just an opinion. Like I said, you voice yours and say we're wrong. There's nothing wrong with that unless you get offended by criticism and alternate opinions.

If you get to say something, then we get to go against it if we wish. I don't see anybody constantly telling you you're wrong without a response by you. Do you think people would keep saying your views are wrong if you stopped expressing them? Of course not, it would be pointless.
You voice your opinion and it get critiqued. You then say no my opinion is right. Then your opinion gets critiqued again.
So yeah people keep telling you you're not thinking rationally, but you're not doing anything different. By arguing your opinions, you go against another person's opinions. It's called debate. Debate doesn't need insults though.

Not sure if I made sense so let me say it in a shorter version. If you keep saying that your opinions are right, others get to keep saying they're wrong.
My opinions are opinions, that doesnt make them fact, so people dont need to say they are wrong.
 

Hepheastus420

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My opinions are opinions, that doesnt make them fact, so people dont need to say they are wrong.
If your opinions are immoral, it's everybody's job to bring your opinions to justice. They don't have to be fact to be wrong (by wrong I mean immoral). You say I disrespect women right? Well good for you. If you believe my views are immoral, then tell me. That's what we do with you. We see how some of your views are wrong and we try to help you. Well maybe it's not so innocent now, but your insults are what created the negative views on you.
 

Kaendar

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If your opinions are immoral, it's everybody's job to bring your opinions to justice. They don't have to be fact to be wrong (by wrong I mean immoral). You say I disrespect women right? Well good for you. If you believe my views are immoral, then tell me. That's what we do with you. We see how some of your views are wrong and we try to help you. Well maybe it's not so innocent now, but your insults are what created the negative views on you.
I never said you disrespected women, it was the other way around. Oh unless your talkin about April, but thats not really disrespect.. I just take her side cuz I like the way she acts.
 

Doer

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If your opinions are immoral, it's everybody's job to bring your opinions to justice. They don't have to be fact to be wrong (by wrong I mean immoral). You say I disrespect women right? Well good for you. If you believe my views are immoral, then tell me. That's what we do with you. We see how some of your views are wrong and we try to help you. Well maybe it's not so innocent now, but your insults are what created the negative views on you.
Trying to help? Bring someone's opinion to justice? What are you, the immorality posse? You judge views to be wrong and try to help? This is really begining to sound familar.

All "leadership" of this ilk is opposed by free thinkers. And on a note more close, how irrlevant this back and forth is. She said, then she said, no she said....get the picture?
 
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