When Will USA Fall?

rampagen08

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Administration officials and Democrats in Congress are looking to the commission for recommendations on reducing the federal debt, which is currently projected to reach 90 percent of the U.S. economy by 2020. Interest payments are forecast to quadruple to more than $900 billion annually by that year. Moody’s Investors Service has said it would consider cutting the government’s bond rating if the outlook doesn’t improve.
taken from http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aCab5yE7EhDU


When the International Monetary Fund or World Bank offer to lend money to a struggling third-world country (or “emerging market”), they demand “austerity measures“.


What Does This Have to Do With the First World?
Since the IMF and World Bank lend to third world countries, you may reasonably assume that this has nothing to do with “first world” countries like the US and UK.
But England’s economy is in dire straight, and rumors have abounded that the UK might have to rely on a loan from the IMF.

As former U.S. Comptroller General David Walker said [ http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...OT2M.DTL&tsp=1 ]: People seem to think the [American] government has money. The government doesn’t have any money.

The IMF is – in fact – now saying that the U.S. must live more austerely.
As the Washington Post noted Saturday: In the lingo of the International Monetary Fund, the future of the world hinges on “rebalancing and consolidation,” antiseptic words that would not seem to raise a fuss.
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But the translation is a bit ruder, something on the order of: “Suck it up. The party’s over.”
To keep the global economy on track, people in the United States and the rest of the developed world need to work longer before retiring, pay higher taxes and expect less from government. And the cheap imports lining the shelves of mega-chains such as Wal-Mart and Target? They need to be more expensive.
That’s the practical meaning of a series of policy papers and statements issued in recent days by IMF officials, who have a long history of stabilizing economies and solving global financial problems, as they plot a course to keep the world economy growing and reduce the risk of another “great recession.”
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It means a pretty serious reworking of expectations in the developed world: changes in labor rules, product prices, currency values and even the social contract between governments and an aging citizenry.
“It is not that living standards will lower, but they will not increase as fast as they have been,” said Domenico Lombardi, a former IMF executive director. The ideas being discussed by world leaders “are coded words,” he said. “They don’t like words like ‘imposing higher taxes’ and ‘cutting spending.’ ”
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The level of the correction needed is large, perhaps 10 percent of gross domestic product. In the United States, that would amount to roughly $1.4 trillion annually, to be cut from government programs or raised through new taxes.

It has come out that Barack Obama does not intend to return any of the campaign contributions that he received from Goldman Sachs. And surely they will be glad to continue to pour big money into his political coffers. So where does that leave the rest of us?
Well, the rest of us can expect higher taxes and a lower standard of living according to the IMF. The IMF (which has deep connections to these megabanks) says that the party is "over" for nations that have been enjoying the good life. In a recent article, the Washington Post summarized the message that the IMF is trying to communicate through their recent policy papers....
To keep the global economy on track, people in the United States and the rest of the developed world need to work longer before retiring, pay higher taxes and expect less from government. And the cheap imports lining the shelves of mega-chains such as Wal-Mart and Target? They need to be more expensive.
So are you ready to work longer, pay higher taxes, expect less from government and have a lower standard of living? I know a lot of people won't. Look forward to running/defending from looters/rioters/rogue police/rogue military!

In October of this year, one month prior to the November midterm elections, a special army unit known as 'Consequence Management Response Force' will be ready for deployment on American soil if so ordered by the President.
The special force, which is the new name being given to the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry, has been training at Fort Stewart, Georgia and is composed of 80,000 troops.
According to the Army Times,
They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.​
The key phrase is 'may be called upon to help with civil unrest.'
 

Essex

Active Member
USA will fall whenever the chinese decide to stop trade due to the huge dept, will be funny to see all there greed go punished 4 a change! cant wait! F U USA's rulers, so obsessed with war and ruling the world they destroy there own people under the lie of terrorism!

Cant afford private health care? then die at the curb, while ya goverment is spending ya billions on a war they started and can never win. Just to run a gas pipe/steal oil because ya drive 5L trucks!
 

rampagen08

Active Member
what are your facts backing this up? i've shown you just some of the fiscal instabilities plaguing USA today.
 

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I think the question is why do you want the US to fall?

Im sure there a many people on here that wake up every morning begging for the US to just collapse lol.
 

XxHazexX

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if we make it to 2020.2012 is rite around the bin but on a psoitive not i dont think the america is gonna fall in our life time maybe 100 to 200 years down the road
 

NI420

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if america fails UK would be fucked, seein as how privilaged i am realitive to a 3rd world african i think id like the global order to stay the same for a while, i want america to flurish! if american economy collapses UK economy will to, be survival of the fittest and am fit for fuck all only loadin and skmokin bongsmilie
 

rampagen08

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it wont though... i would like the american way of life to go on for another 10 - 15 years at least but it just cant....
 

rollingarkansas

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We'll be working in our own mines to pay back China by friday. J/K. The U.S. will never fall, fail, or give out. We would merge with another nation, if anything, it would be the nation we are most in debt to. I do disagree with our leadership (-military) and endless greed, but just the idea of what U.S. was originally meant to be is enough to make me continue loving this country and hoping things change. Of course the idea of what the U.S. was meant to be didn't include drug laws and all these taxes.
 

IAm5toned

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i say uncle sam's boot is gonna fall about 8" up yer ass for even starting this thread....

lol j/.k.
i dont see america 'falling' anytime soon. americans are too stubborn and dumb to let it happen, someone will have to kill us off tpo make us go away, and that wont be easy.
 

sarah22

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if the US can make it to the end of 2011 without a total economic collapse or a civil war i will be shocked. i've been doing a lot of reading about the current financial crisis. there is absolutely no way that the US can continue running the way its running without taking a massive nose dive into the dirt. if the US can straighten up and get its shit together, they might make it out ok. but to be perfectly honest, there are just too many things that would have to change drastically and rapidly in order for the country to pull through and survive. too many americans like the way things are and are not willing to take a downgrade in their quality of living to help better the country. the rest of the world can see it...can see that they're in SERIOUS hot water and its only just starting to boil now. i dont think we've even come close to seeing the worst of this economic situation. there are some really rough roads ahead, not just for the US, but for the whole world. and while i think that a full collapse would be a good thing for the US, its going to do damage to the global economy as well, and thats not something im really looking forward to.
 
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