Which deficiency is this now?

Johnei

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"BlueBerryMango"
Well wouldnt tap water that's above 7.0 need to be dropped to feed/water them?
Also I haven't feed sense putting them in the larger pot.


Soil I found in stores basically, says it's organic, contains alapha meal, bone meal, earthworm castings and kelp meal...not sure if there's more but has some perlite in it and added 1 scoop to 2 scoops soil.
The soil I been using for 2-3 months now is acidic, not so organic.... I mixed a bit of that into it to help with the high PH, I can't be told by 2 different people ph matters then ph doesn't.
But I've been going on with these same plants for 2-3 months surprising without starting over from seed. Get them large enough to clone, something happens to it, it dies, the clone takes its place I get alittle further with the plant.
It honestly could even just be the strain I got currently...I've heard it's a very picky strain, sometimes hard to grow, it even mentions it's more moderate then easy, which i didn't know until I got home from buying the seeds.
I'm trying to grow "Crown Royale" Indica, and it's a cross of purple kush and Blueberry which happen to be 2 of my favourite strains. So I was thinking it's just genetics and nothing to worry about but the leaf ended up getting those spots.

Also I feed General Hydro, bloom, grow, micro. Instructions on the back 1tea/gallon. But I make alittle over 1gal, ppm isn't more than 800 according to this one pen, then it's alittle different according to this other pen I got.... but it says the EC is about 790US/CM which if I looked it up right converts to 0.8 EC. It could be alittle strong but the stem itself is actually pretty long at least 7-8 inches and this is usually where I'll start getting problems and a new clone comes along...
Also a very little bit of Cal/mag sense my water is kinda on the harder side with cal/mag in it already.

I'm waiting for 1 thing to show up here so I can make distilled water all the time. Which is almost as good as RO, so that should help a lot with proper feeding and such then.






no its not. what type of "buildup" do you think is happening in an organic soil build anyways?
25% run off is over watering. How wil over watering help to keep ph stable in this organic soil build?






chemphlegm,
When feeding synth nutes in this organic soil? Re-examine your statement SPECIFICALLY pertaining to this guy's thread and what he has done. And this is what I was addressing. Your thinking is correct, but you are wrong here for this thread this guy and what he already done and will do. Read again. He doesn't care if it's organic. I was helping this guy specifically, for his specific situation, not trying to change his whiole grow life and teach him how to grow organically. I have done extremely well in the past in soil beds, whilst feeding synthetic nutes through different dripper setups and soaker hoses for clean water, and when doing that, not caring about the organic aspect and feeding salt fertilizers into soil runoff is needed for no salt buldup or it's a total disaster mid crop at the worst time. Up to 25% runoff is fine, but if you can achieve ther same result with less, less is better. runoff helps to stop EC salt buildup, and help keep pH relatively stable when feeding like this in soil. I know what I'm talking about man. Good day.
(edit-) ..because you don't want to EVER have to be flush the soil before harvest unnecessarily.
 
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chemphlegm

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you've suggested that a 25% run off at every watering is a good thing. I dont agree, thats all, I still think you're a swell guy and a great poster.

"BlueBerryMango"
Well wouldnt tap water that's above 7.0 need to be dropped to feed/water them?
Also I haven't feed sense putting them in the larger pot.


Soil I found in stores basically, says it's organic, contains alapha meal, bone meal, earthworm castings and kelp meal...not sure if there's more but has some perlite in it and added 1 scoop to 2 scoops soil.
The soil I been using for 2-3 months now is acidic, not so organic.... I mixed a bit of that into it to help with the high PH, I can't be told by 2 different people ph matters then ph doesn't.
But I've been going on with these same plants for 2-3 months surprising without starting over from seed. Get them large enough to clone, something happens to it, it dies, the clone takes its place I get alittle further with the plant.
It honestly could even just be the strain I got currently...I've heard it's a very picky strain, sometimes hard to grow, it even mentions it's more moderate then easy, which i didn't know until I got home from buying the seeds.
I'm trying to grow "Crown Royale" Indica, and it's a cross of purple kush and Blueberry which happen to be 2 of my favourite strains. So I was thinking it's just genetics and nothing to worry about but the leaf ended up getting those spots.

Also I feed General Hydro, bloom, grow, micro. Instructions on the back 1tea/gallon. But I make alittle over 1gal, ppm isn't more than 800 according to this one pen, then it's alittle different according to this other pen I got.... but it says the EC is about 790US/CM which if I looked it up right converts to 0.8 EC. It could be alittle strong but the stem itself is actually pretty long at least 7-8 inches and this is usually where I'll start getting problems and a new clone comes along...
Also a very little bit of Cal/mag sense my water is kinda on the harder side with cal/mag in it already.

I'm waiting for 1 thing to show up here so I can make distilled water all the time. Which is almost as good as RO, so that should help a lot with proper feeding and such then.














chemphlegm,
When feeding synth nutes in this organic soil? Re-examine your statement SPECIFICALLY pertaining to this guy's thread and what he has done. And this is what I was addressing. Your thinking is correct, but you are wrong here for this thread this guy and what he already done and will do. Read again. He doesn't care if it's organic. I was helping this guy specifically, for his specific situation, not trying to change his whiole grow life and teach him how to grow organically. I have done extremely well in the past in soil beds, whilst feeding synthetic nutes through different dripper setups and soaker hoses for clean water, and when doing that, not caring about the organic aspect and feeding salt fertilizers into soil runoff is needed for no salt buldup or it's a total disaster mid crop at the worst time. Up to 25% runoff is fine, but if you can achieve ther same result with less, less is better. runoff helps to stop EC salt buildup, and help keep pH relatively stable when feeding like this in soil. I know what I'm talking about man. Good day.
(edit-) ..because you don't want to EVER have to be flush the soil before harvest unnecessarily.
 

Tangerine_

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Most of this is TL;DR but I will never understand why people dump synthetics in an organic built soil, losing the benefits of both, throwing off carbons/cations exchanges
I've only ever seen it work with very seasoned growers and minimal bottles. Even then, it was after the organic additions started depleting.
 

BlueBerryMango

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Should I mention that the soil only says "feeds up to 1 month", so after this 1 month I'll have to start adding in nutirients anyways correct?


Also update:

No water has been applied in the last 24-48 hours, the plant seems to be in the same state, can't really tell if it's getting worse slowly or recovering.
The only thing that I can tell that's a problem with the plant is that it could be "over watered" which is causing lockouts, the plant is showing signs of calcium deficiency, refer to the original first post, first picture.
The spots are becoming more dominant like CAL diffecency....IMG_0093.JPG
 
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Tangerine_

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Should I mention that the soil only says "feeds up to 1 month", so after this 1 month I'll have to start adding in nutirients anyways correct?


Also update:

No water has been applied in the last 24-48 hours, the plant seems to be in the same state, can't really tell if it's getting worse slowly or recovering.
The only thing that I can tell that's a problem with the plant is that it could be "over watered" which is causing lockouts, the plant is showing signs of calcium deficiency, refer to the original first post, first picture.
The spots are becoming more dominant like CAL diffecency....View attachment 3968349
Right, and calcium def can happen when moisture fluctuates between dry and overwatered. Adding more wont help if uptake is the problem. Try to get your watering technique dialed in and be patient.
The first response you got from @Diabolical666 will lead you in the right direction.
 
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