which led would you choose hlg spider

Mikenike said:

@hybridway2 will there be a cannaspec LUV? How are you calculating $1.26/w? Even at $950 and 720w it’s still $1.32/w and at $1250 it’s $1.73/w. You kept doing that with the bar8 with the 25% discount, don’t get me wrong I love my bar8 but it was still pricey at $1.87/w even with the discount.
my HLG strip build was cheaper by a few hundred and 160w more, but I do think I like Amare more, however your used car salesman vibe is a big turn away.
Finally found an amare copy on alibaba. Two whites, red/ir, blue and Uv on similar looking heat sinks And two channels, but only 640w at $500 plus shipping.

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$950÷720 =$ 2.31
You're right, I was calculating off 750w not 720. My mistake. Not intentional just hard to spit the facts consistantly when being haggled after answering a question.
Mike, you don't understand. Answer a question then have someone else repeat the question & give the wrong answer like they know. When im holding it in my hands they are telling me what it does n does not have or do, all wrong, repeatedly. Thats why i look pushy to you. Cuz heads be playing dumb.
You know you feel it to.
Bar-8 was 1250 delivered wasn't it? Dont remember. I remember they had to bump by 250 for shipping after i announced the deal. My bad. We did not know the extra fee for longer bars would apply from shipping. I do my best to relay the facts, my bad if i was off a C-hair on some change.
Anyways, all that is minuscule & besides the point. Nothing else out there offers this.
Not that Alibaba Copy. Not anything because they are custom, not cookie cutter.
Link?
How's your SBS going Mike?
Closest thing out to it rn & far off from being it:

If Persugo the BS hater can't find it after a whole month of research & calling every factory in China, i know you did not find one. You know how i know? They do not exist.
They are Custom fixtures dude. One of a kind. Get why they can't copy it? They gonna drop $11G's on the mold for the extrusions, ect...? Doubt it when there are at least 25-35 different, cheezy bar lights available for Mass Production.

hybridway2 said:

$950÷720 =$ 2.31
You're right, I was calculating off 750w not 720. My mistake. Not intentional just hard to spit the facts consistantly when being haggled after answering a question.
Mike, you don't understand. Answer a question then have someone else repeat the question & give the wrong answer like they know. When im holding it in my hands they are telling me what it does n does not have or do, all wrong, repeatedly. Thats why i look pushy to you. Cuz heads be playing dumb.
You know you feel it to.
Bar-8 was 1250 delivered wasn't it? Dont remember. I remember they had to bump by 250 for shipping after i announced the deal. My bad. We did not know the extra fee for longer bars would apply from shipping. I do my best to relay the facts, my bad if i was off a C-hair on some change.
Anyways, all that is minuscule & besides the point. Nothing else out there offers this.
Not that Alibaba Copy. Not anything because they are custom, not cookie cutter.
Link?
How's your SBS going Mike?

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Bar8 was 1500 delivered. Nah I get it man I see exactly what you mean all the time when I’m browsing the forum. And yeah it may be minuscule but as a strong advocate for Amare you should know your stuff. Just like you said Amare was only 1250 delivered but when I went to pay it was 1500, as well as their upgrade policy/plan where you can upgrade to the newest stuff for some reasonable fees, I asked them if I could upgrade when the LUV came out since that’s the one I originally wanted but was gonna take too long and they said no that’s not possible, they don’t do that. No hard feelings man.

What’s special about the molds? I thought the spectrum was the ticket? Two whites/monos/and a beefy heat sink?

my sbs is doing great I’ve been meaning to post an update but been slacking. Amare side is still killing it and HLG is doing good but not quite as nice as Amare. Pretty similar to the last round actually

The spectrum Amare posted for the cannaspec is also wrong since there’s no 470 bump. But you said there wouldn’t be much of a spike anyway but here’s what I expected it to look like

PhatNuggz said:

IMHO, it's comical that people get hung up on <$2/w prices. I still use my original BML SPYDR 600 from 2014, which is ~ 360w and retailed (no discount) for $1000= $2.77/w

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It’s hard not to get hung up on $$/w. Why would anyone want to pay more for something they can get cheaper elsewhere? Especially if you have the ability to DIY and replicate the same product for much cheaper? Yeah but in 2014 all LED lights were expensive even blurples. There’s a bigger market now with better tech and R/D and competition

Mikenike said:

It’s hard not to get hung up on $$/w. Why would anyone want to pay more for something they can get cheaper elsewhere? Especially if you have the ability to DIY and replicate the same product for much cheaper? Yeah but in 2014 all LED lights were expensive even blurples. There’s a bigger market now with better tech and R/D and competition

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Another thing to consider in my opinion is that shipping can be very expensive for grow lights. If you buy the strips or panels and do a diy build you can save a lot in shipping for International orders. I have never used the amare light but it definitely looks like it has the best spectrum(uva,deep red and ir) all in one. Rapidled sells some solderless leds that makes it very easy to do some supplemental strips of monos. Im planning on a 12 qb 132 build in a 4x4 tent with added monos. I will add 30 watts of uva, 30 watts of deep red and 10 watts of far red all in separate drivers to 600 watts of white light. When I have It ready in about one week I will post pics of the lamp.

Mikenike said:

Bar8 was 1500 delivered. Nah I get it man I see exactly what you mean all the time when I’m browsing the forum. And yeah it may be minuscule but as a strong advocate for Amare you should know your stuff. Just like you said Amare was only 1250 delivered but when I went to pay it was 1500, as well as their upgrade policy/plan where you can upgrade to the newest stuff for some reasonable fees, I asked them if I could upgrade when the LUV came out since that’s the one I originally wanted but was gonna take too long and they said no that’s not possible, they don’t do that. No hard feelings man.

What’s special about the molds? I thought the spectrum was the ticket? Two whites/monos/and a beefy heat sink?

my sbs is doing great I’ve been meaning to post an update but been slacking. Amare side is still killing it and HLG is doing good but not quite as nice as Amare. Pretty similar to the last round actually

The spectrum Amare posted for the cannaspec is also wrong since there’s no 470 bump. But you said there wouldn’t be much of a spike anyway but here’s what I expected it to look like
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Do you know how many Uv(380nm) watts does the amare have ?
Thanks !!!!

I will answe for him because he does not own the LUV yet. It runs x6 380nm diodes down each dual chip bar. The 380 is centered between x2 , 740"s.

This is the only Spectral Comparative Non-Alibaba light i could find.

andymex said:

Do you know how many Uv(380nm) watts does the amare have ?
Thanks !!!!

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hybridway2 said:

I will answe for him because he does not own the LUV yet. It runs x6 380nm diodes down each dual chip bar. The 380 is centered between x2 , 740"s.

This is the only Spectral Comparative Non-Alibaba light i could find.

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Thanks a lot man. I need to go work a little. But later I will do a script to integrate the spectral curve of the amare and post the amount of uv, blue, green, red and far red the amare have.
Maybe it can be useful for people like me that can't buy the amare but want to supplement white light leds.

Mikenike said:

Bar8 was 1500 delivered. Nah I get it man I see exactly what you mean all the time when I’m browsing the forum. And yeah it may be minuscule but as a strong advocate for Amare you should know your stuff. Just like you said Amare was only 1250 delivered but when I went to pay it was 1500, as well as their upgrade policy/plan where you can upgrade to the newest stuff for some reasonable fees, I asked them if I could upgrade when the LUV came out since that’s the one I originally wanted but was gonna take too long and they said no that’s not possible, they don’t do that. No hard feelings man.

What’s special about the molds? I thought the spectrum was the ticket? Two whites/monos/and a beefy heat sink?

my sbs is doing great I’ve been meaning to post an update but been slacking. Amare side is still killing it and HLG is doing good but not quite as nice as Amare. Pretty similar to the last round actually

The spectrum Amare posted for the cannaspec is also wrong since there’s no 470 bump. But you said there wouldn’t be much of a spike anyway but here’s what I expected it to look like
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Amare never posted their spectral graph to the public. They use the PassPort Pro & that spectrometer is much better & more accurate then the one usd by "Growers House or Choice" or whatever distributor took those.
The 470 is definitely there & you see the spring sky off the light big time. Has allot to do with the normalized morphological changes between the x2.
Yes, i apologize for the Misunderstanding or inaccurate info on the Bar-8's final cost after shipping. That was a freak thing Victor did not account for & why all these Bar lights coming out are 42" long instead of 46".
Good news is, your Bar-8 will continue to outperform anything you put it up against. To the point where if you tally it all up at the end of the yr. You will have a substantial difference in harvested weight as well as plenty of feedback stating clients prefer the Amare weed. I know, cuz it happens to me all the time & why i added monos to everything white.
Of course you can upgrade when the LUV comes out. They stay upgrading with the available tech. Sure he'd hook you up on the Pre-Order too, like better even maybe seeing how you asked earlier.
But they could not just do an even swap & why would you want to? The Bar-8 is 1/3 more light with higher quality build & versitilty. The Bar-8 itself will have UVA soon too.
I have the True spectral graphs but don't share them yet.

My vote is to DIY 648s with a 320h-2800 for each bank of 2 boards(A, or AB type, and because that lab report on the 650r looks mighty fine), or use some nice light bars. I think you should keep it as simple as possible and you will have the best results budy.

The new atreum VELA is looking nice.

PhatNuggz said:

got a link?

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Here is a link of you recommending an sf light, defending and recommending my ignorance as you put it...
Now tell me exactly whats going on here, its good enough to recommend in a different thread but when i recommend it you call me ignorant? Basically saying the same exact thing as some people dont have the $$$ to buy an amare and recommending it to someone on a budget makes no sense... whos ignorant? And who actually stands behind what they say? Nice try

Edited the fxck outta that reply above as it was not adequate to me. But idk what's wrong with my "Slo-Mo" Internet connection & i lost the whole re-written reply. WTF! Anyways. Busy now so will try to fix it later.
Idk why this shit happens.

PhatNuggz said:

got a link?

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And again recommends an sf light to "budget minded growers"
One last time, $/w amare=not efficient but grams/w and technology wise top of the line LED fixtures at $1500/light.. sf $/w= very efficient (btw hybrid 3 year warranty on those boards and 5 years on hlg meanwell drivers, samnsung 301b's, added 660nm and 760nm and ip65, also upon inquiry-full customization options on drivers, wattage, and spectrum) and grams/watt still similar to amare (not as good but close enough at the cost of the light) and technology again similar even if not as good but close enough at $215 a light... all im saying, all i said, before your insults and lap dogs came out swinging riding the amare train, was it is a cheaper option, probly the cheapest and most bang for your buck, ya know roughly about $0.48/watt... so yes again cheapest light besides hid's for your money mentioned and fits the "budget minded grower" as phatnuggz put in the other thread he actually recommends the sf lights on... you all went to war the minute someone said it cost too much and start bragging about specifications, wattage and so on... nobody even mentioned to you it wasnt a good light just cost too much for most home growers to justify to grow their own smoke with ya dig?

Gardenator said:

And again recommends an sf light to "budget minded growers"
One last time, $/w amare=not efficient but grams/w and technology wise top of the line LED fixtures at $1500/light.. sf $/w= very efficient (btw hybrid 3 year warranty on those boards and 5 years on hlg meanwell drivers, samnsung 301b's, added 660nm and 760nm and ip65, also upon inquiry-full customization options on drivers, wattage, and spectrum) and grams/watt still similar to amare (not as good but close enough at the cost of the light) and technology again similar even if not as good but close enough at $215 a light... all im saying, all i said, before your insults and lap dogs came out swinging riding the amare train, was it is a cheaper option, probly the cheapest and most bang for your buck, ya know roughly about $0.48/watt... so yes again cheapest light besides hid's for your money mentioned and fits the "budget minded grower" as phatnuggz put in the other thread he actually recommends the sf lights on... you all went to war the minute someone said it cost too much and start bragging about specifications, wattage and so on... nobody even mentioned to you it wasnt a good light just cost too much for most home growers to justify to grow their own smoke with ya dig?

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hybridway2 said:

Edited the fxck outta that reply above as it was not adequate to me. But idk what's wrong with my "Slo-Mo" Internet connection & i lost the whole re-written reply. WTF! Anyways. Busy now so will try to fix it later.
Idk why this shit happens.

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Oh no it’s on purpose now given your last few posts
Probably shouldn’t slander the admin staff and talk about my breasts

For all you people creating fake accounts to report him are as bad as the posts he makes with the drama
Let it go If you value your actual account stop making sock puppets