Which would you choose SolarStorm OR Hans?

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silentflyer

Member
Hello, getting ready to place an order, after much research I am looking
at getting (1) solar storm 400 OR (3) of the new Hans lights.

I can actually get the solar storm 400 for $50 less but lets just say the price
is equal which route would you more experienced LED guys take?

Thanks!
 
Greengenes707

Greengenes707

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Unless you're in the UK, I would pick the solar storm.

Spreading the hans's would be nice but you will still be limited by the watts. As in g/w. You would have to pull 2X the g/w with hans just to match an average run with the SS. Once you dial it in, the SS has more potential.

Plus it's cheaper. win win.
 
multipass

multipass

Active Member
3x hans panels imo... "han(d)s down".

-looks to be newer technology
-more proven potential on these forums
-very light, low heat, great coverage, low watt
-hans uses roughly same LEDs as Area-51, and hans LEDs were even recently upgraded beyond A51. (was XPE reds, XPG white--now all XBD and some Osram deep reds)


honestly you will probably be very happy with both, so you wont lose with your choice.

with hans, you will have to hang 3 panels, but you get to position them overhead exactly how you want, also 3 diff settings on each panel
with solarstorm, just one big panel. also they probably have better warranty, and that is great if you are USA

good luck and enjoy whatever you get =D
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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SS website is very poorly designed. Finding 411 on the 400 is difficult. Neither do I like the layout of the blues v red diodes. If I were going that route 2 @ 400 provides better coverage than one 800

Hans

IMO his choice of colors is unnecessary. NW + WW has been proven many times in RIU to be all you need

Check out A 51 in US quality light very good coverage/warranty lots of excellent grows on RIU
 
multipass

multipass

Active Member
I'm not ready to disregard the royal blue... here's my mini test thus far..

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I've been experimenting with a 5red/5blue 30w CREE XPE multichip that I got and put in a flood. (XPE is what A51(w/ XPG white) and Hans use/have used).

So.. Currently in my veg there is a hans overhead, and this 5blue/5red flood pointed diagonally at my 2 blueberry indica plants. The blueberry plants have shifted and are pointing/leaning towards the multichip. They have more than enough light from the hans, but they seem to really like the heavy Royal Blue multichip.

That has to be worth something =D... also hans has been making these panels for over 5 years and has tried tons of diff leds, so he has a heavy opinion on this subject. He only adds 4 blue.

Were all experimenting and greatly helping LED progress.
I don't think you are wrong pet--I think you are right.. we can both be right and both win with great results... as we already are =)
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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I would also go with Hans just for the FACT that he uses newer/updated leds and CLW hasn't specified really of any upgrade. Coverage will be greater with Hans obviously

TBH we all thought CLW were upgrading early this year, solarflare/storm have been on the market for awhile now. Someone should email George and ask what's going on?:P

Hans got over 2gpw with V1 and has never replicated it with any his newer panel runs........warm white 250lm+ per watt leds(with 660nm) will be the future IMO.
 
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bbspills

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PSUAGRO. said:
I would also go with Hans just for the FACT that he uses newer/updated leds and CLW hasn't specified really of any upgrade. Coverage will be greater with Hans obviously

TBH we all thought CLW were upgrading early this year, solarflare/storm have been on the market for awhile now. Someone should email George and ask what's going on?:P

Hans got over 2gpw with V1 and has never replicated it with any his newer panel runs........warm white 250lm+ per watt leds(with 660nm) will be the future IMO.
Click to expand...

Please contact me immediately when 250 lumen per watt warm white LEDs are readily available :-)
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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Yep, we're all coming at it from different angles, which is why I have such a good understanding of light manipulation today, and why pics are important.

I too have experienced plant lean towards cool white, but have also experienced that they will lean toward NW if the rest of the lights are WW. A plant's gotta do, what a plant's gotta do, at least at certain stages

Keep in mind, I use both 8 bulb hot5 and leds. Because I can twist bulbs in/out I am able to play with spectrums on the fly.

This grow, during flower I kept 1/8 UVL Aquasuns, which covers ~ 450 blue- blue/yellow + 1 Coral Wave (deep blues + 730-750). Last grow, I vegged and flowered with 2 CWs, but no Aquasun during flower).

I might add the second CW during the last 7-10 days to see what it does for tric production/finish

MJ only needs ~ 15-20% max blue (NW gives a better blue blend), but you can add more to control stretch. If it needs more, it would only be in early veg.

IMO DIYers would benefit from having CW/NW + EXTRA WW on separate circuits. The extra NW to control stretch. I removed it too early and one plant (Melanie) overgrew the 2 same strain F1s on each side. I had to bend 6 top branches in order to make sure the shorter 2 got decent love as well. Once buds reached ~ 3 weeks old, stretch stopped.

Next grow, once stretch stops I will replace the NW with WW for more bud development

Here's a few pics from last grow Note 3/4 tubes are WW. Hard to see but both tops leaned toward the blue. Note clones are in mid veg

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multipass said:
I'm not ready to disregard the royal blue... here's my mini test thus far..

-----

I've been experimenting with a 5red/5blue 30w CREE XPE multichip that I got and put in a flood. (XPE is what A51(w/ XPG white) and Hans use/have used).

So.. Currently in my veg there is a hans overhead, and this 5blue/5red flood pointed diagonally at my 2 blueberry indica plants. The blueberry plants have shifted and are pointing/leaning towards the multichip. They have more than enough light from the hans, but they seem to really like the heavy Royal Blue multichip.

That has to be worth something =D... also hans has been making these panels for over 5 years and has tried tons of diff leds, so he has a heavy opinion on this subject. He only adds 4 blue.

Were all experimenting and greatly helping LED progress.
I don't think you are wrong pet--I think you are right.. we can both be right and both win with great results... as we already are =)
Click to expand...
 
Greengenes707

Greengenes707

Well-Known Member
SS is older by todays standards, but Hans' use of whites is seems like he is appeasing people than actually changing or filling the spectrum. It's still a monochromatic panel for the most part, as is the SS.

If all things went great with the Hans, and he pulled 1g/w thats ~180G

And if the SS was not so good, and only did .6g/w...~190g.
Start to dial the SS in and you can eventually get more out of it than 3 hans imo.

Watt for watt...I would take 6 hans. But that wasn't really what he was asking.


SF...What is the size of your grow space?
 
El Tiberon

El Tiberon

Active Member
I have 2 of the Hans veg panels. I have never seen such good results from vegging plants including MH, CFL, T-5. I am ordering 2 more.
 
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silentflyer

Member
SF...What is the size of your grow space?[/QUOTE]



The room is 8' x 10' but I am using a corner and max grow space would be 4'x4'.

I know the SS400 is only recomended for up to 3'x3' in flowering, hopefully that is
large enough for 4 plants.
 
tortie

tortie

Active Member
One thing not mentioned here is that the SS400 has extra UV tubes which make it different from all the other LED panels out there. I dunno if it really makes a difference since I'm new to growing but that factor came up when I was doing research for my LED panel as well. There were also some people at another forum which complained about the SS overheating and shutting down? the Hans runs way cooler, something to think about if you have temp issues. Again I have no personal experience with the SS, just passing along info I gathered as I was choosing between the SS and the Hans myself.
 
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