While you worry about the Swine Flu

KaliKitsune

Well-Known Member
So while you people worry about the swine flu (while other forms of influenza have already killed more people this year yet you don't worry about THOSE,) Mexico is saying "Carpe Diem" and in front of the Mexican Senate is a resolution to legalize almost every drug class.

http://www.milenio.com/node/204108

Here is what will be allowed:

5g of pot
2g of opium
50mg heroin
0.5g cocaine
0.015mg LSD
40mg max tablets of MDA, no more than 200mg may be carried at any time.
40mg max tablets of Methamphetamines, no more than 200mg may be in possession at any time.
 

Boogaloo Bud

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We don't worry about those because they don't have the same potential as this one. This swine flu is a mix of human, avian, and swine flue. It's basically 3 flu's that are already endemics in their respective animals. This one also is very closely related to flu's that have already caused pandemics. It's very similer to the spanis flu, as well as the asian flu. The spanish flu killed up to 100 million people and this time it's got buddies....
 

KaliKitsune

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We don't worry about those because they don't have the same potential as this one. This swine flu is a mix of human, avian, and swine flue. It's basically 3 flu's that are already endemics in their respective animals. This one also is very closely related to flu's that have already caused pandemics. It's very similer to the spanis flu, as well as the asian flu. The spanish flu killed up to 100 million people and this time it's got buddies....
Wrong. Absolutely and totally wrong. For starters AVIAN and SWINE *DNA* are totally different - Bird flu infecting a pig is pretty much 100% impossible. Pigs, however, are very close in many ways genetically to humans, and thus it is possible for the strain to mutate and go from swine to man, which is what has happened. The only thing that is worrying is that usually the strain that mutates and infects someone only infects that person, It can only be swine to human. Like the avian flu, you couldn't catch it from another infected person, you had to contract it from an infected bird. This has gone from swine to human and then again to work human to human. That is the *ONLY* unique thing about this type of influenza. Human influenza diseases have infected swine for a long time, on the other hand, so it's probably only fair that the converse happened to us in the natural order of things.
 

Boogaloo Bud

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I'm not even going to read your whole post. Do some research. Pigs aare capable of contracting avian, human, and swine flu. It's been said 100 time on the news. When it' in pigs and all 3 try to infect the same cell they combine.
 

aba

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So while you people worry about the swine flu (while other forms of influenza have already killed more people this year yet you don't worry about THOSE,) Mexico is saying "Carpe Diem" and in front of the Mexican Senate is a resolution to legalize almost every drug class.

http://www.milenio.com/node/204108

Here is what will be allowed:

5g of pot
2g of opium
50mg heroin
0.5g cocaine
0.015mg LSD
40mg max tablets of MDA, no more than 200mg may be carried at any time.
40mg max tablets of Methamphetamines, no more than 200mg may be in possession at any time.
I cant read Spanish... how do you know its not just a proposition?
 

KaliKitsune

Well-Known Member
I'm not even going to read your whole post. Do some research. Pigs aare capable of contracting avian, human, and swine flu. It's been said 100 time on the news. When it' in pigs and all 3 try to infect the same cell they combine.
Considering there is no mention in any scientific literature or CDC reports of this H1N1 virus having any avian H5N1, H3N2, or H2N2 (where H3N2 came from via antigenic shift) surface proteins, I'm going to say that *NO* this did not come from avian and swine and human influenza coming together and infecting the same cell.

BTW, We have 'patient zero' in Mexico and his influenza had NO traces of avian flu surface proteins. That backs up my statement even further.
 

KaliKitsune

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Also to note, this is believed to be the same swine flu that stared the 1918 pandemic. A little more analysis and we'll know in a week or so.
 

Boogaloo Bud

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The flu in 1918 was the spanish flu. And, read this...
CDC officials detected a virus with a unique combination of gene segments that have not been seen in people or pigs before. The bug contains human virus, avian virus from North America and pig viruses from North America, Europe and Asia.
Health officials have seen mixes of bird, pig and human virus before, but never such an intercontinental combination with more than one pig virus in the mix.
http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2009/04/29/why-call-it-swine-flu-when-its-a-mixture-of-avian-human-and-swine-viruses/
 

Boogaloo Bud

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Avian flu doesn't have to be H5N1. From my understanding the H and the N tell you how the virus attaches to the cell, and how the virus "invades" the other cell.
 

BackDoorMan

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I don;t think there's much to worry about, from my understanding steps are being taken to prevent a pandemic with the swine flu.. arent they going ahead and shipping out the meds to take care of this?

I'm not sure what mexico legalizing drugs has to do with the flu, but thats cool.. maybe we should all just pack up and go to mexico... cause ya know, mexicans are sooo happy to be there...lol.
 

KaliKitsune

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I trust the CDC site over Wordpress, any day. That's the thing about being a slashdotter, we know our resources and links.

In fact, here's the most current link from the CDC, updated today:

http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/swineflu_you.htm

No mention of avian addition making this thing spread out faster. You'd think they'd put that in with the updated information, yes?
 

happyface

Well-Known Member
So while you people worry about the swine flu (while other forms of influenza have already killed more people this year yet you don't worry about THOSE,) Mexico is saying "Carpe Diem" and in front of the Mexican Senate is a resolution to legalize almost every drug class.

http://www.milenio.com/node/204108

Here is what will be allowed:

5g of pot
2g of opium
50mg heroin
0.5g cocaine
0.015mg LSD
40mg max tablets of MDA, no more than 200mg may be carried at any time.
40mg max tablets of Methamphetamines, no more than 200mg may be in possession at any time.
WHAT WHAT so i can go to Mexico an buy legal drugs rite now???????
 

Tryingtomastrkush

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WHAT WHAT so i can go to Mexico an buy legal drugs rite now???????
Lol, you say that as if its somehow hard to get drugs in mexico if they were illegal.
You can buy whatever pills you want in pretty much any pharmacy in mexico man. cheap as fuck.

I used to make runs down to mexico for somas, vallium, and vials of liquid ketamine
 

Boogaloo Bud

Well-Known Member
I trust the CDC site over Wordpress, any day. That's the thing about being a slashdotter, we know our resources and links.

In fact, here's the most current link from the CDC, updated today:

http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/swineflu_you.htm

No mention of avian addition making this thing spread out faster. You'd think they'd put that in with the updated information, yes?
This isn't technically swine flu. They already said that their going to stop calling it swine flu because that's not what it is. It's beleived that the pigs were used as sort of a "mixer" for the virus.

Why are you saying it's not a big deal and citing sources from CDC? The pandemic level was raised to 5 meaning, according to them, a pandemic is very likely or imminent.

"All eight flu genes replicate independently. If a cell is infected with three different flu viruses, reproduction can mean a reshuffling of genetic material from multiple parents, thrown together randomly into the "baby" flu virus.
Most of the time, those cut-and-paste viruses don't work out very well, Johns Hopkins's Pekosz said. But every so often, this natural reassortment will come up with a new flu virus that has some kind of advantage over its competitors.
H1N1 swine flu is one of those, but we've certainly seen others in the past 30 years, he said. Pigs are part of the problem because they can become infected with flu viruses from birds and humans. As such, swine seem to provide a particularly good environment for this genetic square dance to take place"


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/04/090427-swine-flu-facts.html


I'm not that good at explaining myself and I'm not a biologist so I find good sources for information. I also do know some basic things about viruses. I'm not just saying all this stuff because it's what I think, It's what I learned from a combination or my own knowledge and what I learned from other people and sources.
 

KaliKitsune

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The WHO, which controls the pandemic levels, is full of morons. They should be at level 6 right now, because there are outbreaks and cases reported in more than two regions of the globe. WAY more than two. Switzerland and the Netherlands became the latest countries to report infections, and Canada confirmed 15 more mild cases on Thursday. New Zealand, Britain, Germany, Spain, Israel and Austria also have confirmed cases. That sounds like a global clusterfuck in the making. We should be at 6, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Part of this nonsense is fear-mongering, part of it is damage control. That's why the media is latching on to it so badly, it's just good money for them. The song 'Dirty Laundry" pretty much sums up what the media is doing. They're overplaying it to make money, but at the same time they're underplaying the facts, keeping the masses a little extra ignorant, at least as much as they can possibly stem the flow of information.
 

happyface

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Lol, you say that as if its somehow hard to get drugs in mexico if they were illegal.
You can buy whatever pills you want in pretty much any pharmacy in mexico man. cheap as fuck.

I used to make runs down to mexico for somas, vallium, and vials of liquid ketamine
wats up bro ! ya ive went down there too but i guess recently there goverment got more strick on pills and shit.
 

slipperyP

Well-Known Member
Here is the person set to make a fortune off of this....

It certainly wouldn't be the first time that deadly flu viruses have been
concocted in labs and then dispatched with the intention of creating a
pandemic. When the story first broke last
month<http://www.prisonplanet.com/accidental-contamination-of-vaccine-with-live-avian-flu-virus-virtually-impossible.html>,
Czech newspapers questioned if the shocking discovery of vaccines
contaminated with the deadly avian flu virus which were distributed to 18
countries by the American company Baxter were part of a conspiracy to
provoke a pandemic.Since the probability of mixing a live virus biological
weapon with vaccine material by accident is virtually impossible, this
leaves no other explanation than that the contamination was a deliberate
attempt to weaponize the H5N1 virus to its most potent extreme and
distribute it via conventional flu vaccines to the population who would
then infect others to a devastating degree as the disease went
airborne.However, this is not the first time that vaccine companies have
been caught distributing vaccines contaminated with deadly viruses.In 2006
it was revealed that Bayer Corporation had discovered that their injection
drug, which was used by hemophiliacs, was contaminated with the HIV virus.
Internal documents prove that after they positively knew that the drug was
contaminated, they took it off the U.S. Market only to dump it on the
European, Asian and Latin American markets, knowingly exposing thousands,
most of them children, to the live HIV
virus<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg-52mHIjhs>. Government officials in
France went to prison for allowing the drug to be distributed. The
documents show that the FDA colluded with Bayer to cover-up the scandal
and allowed the deadly drug to be distributed globally. No Bayer
executives ever faced arrest or prosecution in the United States. In the
UK, a 2007 outbreak of foot and mouth
disease<http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/050807_foot_and_mouth.htm>
that put Britain on high alert has been originated from a government
laboratory which is shared with an American pharmaceutical company,
mirroring the deadly outbreak of 2001, which was also deliberately
released. As we reported
yesterday<http://www.prisonplanet.com/previous-swine-flu-outbreak-came-from-fort-dix.html>,
last time there was a significant outbreak of a new form of swine flu in
the U.S. It originated at the army base at Fort Dix, New Jersey."



"This is Matthew, with a short message to greet you with love and
assurance that the latest Illuminati plan-biowarfare-not only will fail,
but will be a huge breach in their remaining toehold in your world. Jean
Hudon asked for my comments on the swine flu outbreak that was being
touted as a global pandemic. I have asked my mother to send my reply to
Jean to her distribution list for still wider dissemination of the truth
about this virus as well as my additional note about our observations of
public reaction. (...) Since I transmitted that message to comply with
Jean's request, there are firm indications that the public-at-large is
increasingly skeptical about the motives of individuals at highest levels
of medicine and pharmaceutical corporations: There is this sudden outbreak
of yet another kind of flu and 'accidentally' there is live virus in the
vaccines? Yes, there is some fear as well, but not nearly in the
proportion the Illuminati intended and expected. Quite the opposite-this
is a setback of major proportion for them! Peoples' reactions show their
expanding consciousness, and this is likely to cause widespread outrage
that will not be confined to the deliberate attempt to infect millions and
cause global panic. Light efforts are underway in numerous other areas too
that will remove the long-time heavy hand of dark control in your world.
Holding steady your light and being patient a bit longer for dynamic
developments will be abundantly rewarded!"



- Matthew through Suzy Ward (April 28, 2009) Click
HERE<http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=101&z=2> to read the
whole message which was included in part in my April 25 SPECIAL RED FLAG
ALERT<http://www.earthrainbownetwork.com/Archives2009/RedFlagAlert.htm>



- Paul Joseph Watson -- Taken from Medical Director: Swine Flu Was
"Cultured In A
Laboratory"<http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13353>



Flu Kills The Torture Memos (April 26, 2009)

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13351<http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13351>

In a 'Holy convenience, Batman!' moment, a 'unique' flu virus (one likely
concocted in US Army labs) overtakes media coverage of revelations that
the highest levels of the US government instructed the CIA (and private
contractors) to torture terror suspects. Scientists said the virus
combines genetic material from pigs, birds and humans in a way researchers
have not seen before. "We are very, very concerned," World Health
Organization spokesman Thomas Abraham said. "We have what appears to be a
novel virus and it has spread from human to human," he said. "It's all
hands on deck at the moment." Guess where the first swine flu outbreak
occurred? That's right, Fort Dix, New Jersey, in 1976. Also likely created
in a US Army lab. Thirteen soldiers died, leading the US government to
force a questionable vaccine on the population -- backed by a legal
liability escape clause mandated by and for the pharma-terrorists. Next,
people started dying not from the flu -- but from the *vaccine. *Every
major media outlet has reported the fact that US/UK bioterrorists have
been manipulating the avian flu virus in university and Army labs. This
new flu strain, one that 'no one has ever seen,' contains avian flu. Now,
how does *that* happen? CLIP



From:
http://www.infowars.net/articles/april2009/270409Baxter.htm<http://www.infowars.net/articles/april2009/270409Baxter.htm>



Baxter To Develop Swine Flu Vaccine Despite Bird Flu Scandal

The fox has been given the duty of guarding the henhouse

Steve Watson - April 27, 2009



A U.S. Based pharmaceutical company that just weeks ago was involved in a
scandal involving vaccines tainted with deadly avian flu virus has been
chosen to head up efforts to produce a vaccine for the Mexican swine flu
that has seemingly migrated into the U.S. And Europe.

Baxter confirmed over the weekend that it is working with the World Health
Organization on a potential vaccine to curb the deadly swine flu virus
that is blamed for scores of deaths in Mexico and has emerged as a threat
in the U.S., reports the Chicago
Tribune<http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-baxter-swine-flu-27-apr27,0,3579388.story>.

Baxter has previously worked with governments all over the globe to
develop and produce vaccines to protect against infectious disease or
potential threats from bioterrorism. After 9/11 Baxter helped supply
stockpiles of a smallpox vaccine and in 2003 the company was contracted to
develop a vaccine to combat the SARS virus. In 2006 the UK Government
announced plans designed to inoculate every person in the
country<http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/240206jabs.htm>
with Baxter's vaccines in the event of a flu pandemic. However, Baxter has
a very recent and most disturbing connection to flu vaccines.


As reported by multiple sources last month, including the Times of
India<http://www.prisonplanet.com/virus-mix-up-by-lab-could-have-resulted-in-pandemic.html>,
vaccines contaminated with deadly live H5N1 avian flu virus were
distributed to 18 countries last December by a lab at an Austrian branch
of Baxter.


It was only by providence that the batch was first tested on ferrets in
the Czech Republic, before being shipped out for injection into humans.
The ferrets all died and the shocking discovery was made.

Czech newspapers immediately
questioned<http://www.911blogger.com/node/19517> whether the events were
part of a conspiracy to deliberately provoke a pandemic, following up on
accusations already made by health officials in other
countries.<http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/indonesia-accuses-us-of-bird-flu-plot/2008/02/19/1203190823829.html>
Initially, Baxter attempted to stonewall questions by invoking "trade
secrets" and refused to reveal how the vaccines were contaminated with
H5N1. After increased pressure they then claimed that pure H5N1 batches
were sent by accident.


Since the probability of mixing a live virus biological weapon with
vaccine material by accident is virtually
impossible<http://www.prisonplanet.com/accidental-contamination-of-vaccine-with-live-avian-flu-virus-virtually-impossible.html>,
this leaves no other explanation than that the contamination was a
deliberate attempt to weaponize the H5N1 virus to its most potent extreme
and distribute it via conventional flu vaccines to the population who
would then infect others to a devastating degree as the disease went
airborne.


The fact that Baxter mixed the deadly H5N1 virus with a mix of H3N2
seasonal flu viruses is the smoking gun. The H5N1 virus on its own has
killed hundreds of people, but it is less airborne and more restricted in
the ease with which it can spread. However, when combined with seasonal
flu viruses, which as everyone knows are super-airborne and easily spread,
the effect is a potent, super-airbone, super deadly biological weapon.
Indeed, some have already
suggested<http://www.prisonplanet.com/is-swine-flu-a-biological-weapon.html>
that the current scare could represent the use of such a weapon.



Now it has been announced that Baxter is seeking a sample of the
potentially lethal never before
seen<http://www.prisonplanet.com/medical-director-swine-flu-was-cultured-in-a-laboratory.html>
form of swine/avian/human flu virus in order to assist the World Health
Organization in developing a new vaccine, reaping billions in the process.

Why should Baxter be trusted, when they have already been proven to be at
the very least criminally negligent, and at worst a prime suspect in
attempting to carry off one of the most heinous crimes in the history of
mankind?

The company has already put the safety of the entire human race at risk,
and now, just a few weeks later, we're expected to invest our confidence
in them and take their shots with a smile and a still tongue?



As Mike Adams of Natural News has commented, "If you mail an envelope full
of anthrax to your Senator, you get arrested as a terrorist. So why is
Baxter - which mailed samples of a far more deadly viral strain to labs
around the world - getting away with saying, essentially, 'Oops?'"

WHO officials are reportedly still closely monitoring the investigation
into Baxter's contaminated flu vaccines, seemingly they are not too
concerned. Perhaps we should be.
 
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