White Widow Hydro Fog journal

potpimp

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I think you can just turn the plants a little in the Stinkbud system. You can also bend them quite a bit without hurting them. On another note, I decided to pull the plug on the clones life support this morning; they are done like dinner. I'm through messing with them.
 

bobbyboy34

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i use a humidifier for when i do clones, the humidity stays between 75-98% Humid, you've got to make sure that humidity is high or else your clones will limp over like an old man's sex performance
 

potpimp

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LOL, I dont' know what the humidity was in the cab but it was very high. I tried keeping them sprayed but Stinkbud doesn't even do that. I just yanked them and three looked like they might be possibly viable yet. One was in a peat pellet and was still perky; the other two were just dangling in the aero unit and were still reasonably perky. I trimmed off the two bottom branches and trimmed off half of the next one up, still leaving the top untouched. I put more RooTech on the bottoms of the stems and plugged them in peat pellets and all three went back under the light - sans the aero unit; I cleaned it up and packed it up. I have successfully found yet another way I can not grow clones. I'll get it figured out eventually; maybe go back to really old school cloning 101 with rock wool or rapid rooters and clone dome.
 

bobbyboy34

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noooooo, im telling you man, if you're using Flo's for your cloning and using that aero mister with a on/off settinf of 15/15 along with dip-n-grow, rhizotonic and RO/FILTERED/DISTILLED/LOW PPM water you are good

you don't want the misters on 24/7, 15 on 15 off will alow them to both braethe and drink, this will also heat up the res water to a warm loving temp clones love, watch your ph, check it twice a day, you can't fail bro try my method see if it works, pleeeeeeeeease


oh oh, and if you are worried about the high res temps you will see 70-80F just put in some hygrozyme along with it, hygrozyme doesn't affect your ppm much but it protects against bad things that like to form in warmer res's...trust...you've seen my aero Sour Disel journal i started yah? those are my clones i started from this method
 

potpimp

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I am using a little 26w CFL over them now. I packed up the aero thing. If these root then fine but I don't feel like fooling with them anymore; it's more of a pia than it's worth for 3 little maybe-so's. If they make it that's great. My wife has been snooping around and might have discovered my grow op. She doesn't know anything about it and would freak out if she did. I have to even find a new home for my 4 plants in flower. That would suck.
 

bobbyboy34

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are you serious, that totally sucks, i would hate to have to sneak around with mary jane, shes welcomed anytime in my establishment, good luck with the wife bro. Hope you succeed, im staying up on your grow, good job so far....
 

offgridgrower

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hey bobby i took some pics last nite of the clones at 7 days, as usual they are looking great and will be rooted up by next week for sure. i will upload here shortly, going to post them in potpimp's thread so he can see them as well, lol
 

bobbyboy34

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hey bobby i took some pics last nite of the clones at 7 days, as usual they are looking great and will be rooted up by next week for sure. i will upload here shortly, going to post them in potpimp's thread so he can see them as well, lol

good stuff, i'd love to see them, what strain of MJ are you growing?
 

offgridgrower

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ok, bobby i got pics for you, and i have Island Sweet Skunk going right now, I have some SourDiesel that i have nursed back from death and just took 5 clones off, and some White Widow that was grown from seed and is just now ready to clone off and sex the clones to see what i got, i do belive i have one male and one female out of the 2 seeds, just because one of the WW is all short and indica and the other is all tall and stretchy very un-indica.

so back to the pics this 1st one is of how i mean by cutting back for lollipopping and for cutting out for bushing.


these next ones are of the same clones i took pics of last week, with a pic of the tray i use so potpimp can go get one and start growing clones!!! lol (the 5 clones in the middle of the tray are the SD i took)

you asked about purple stems in the clones, no purple stems here



and the pic of the kind of tray i use, didnt look like the best when i got it but it works great under all kinds of lights, i've had this under 600, a 400 and now floros and it works fine.


and if you want to look at some bud porn go over to my journal im posting it up after this ... ISS at 8wks!
 

bobbyboy34

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ok i see what you mean by lollipopping, but its not close up view so i do have a quick question....

you basically cut off all fan leaves and extended branches that are on branches of the main stem?

you leave on the little growth at the top of the branches?

you prune all this back at what time? Veg? End of veg? Start of Flower?
 

offgridgrower

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to be honest with you that pick is of my SD mama so that plant will never get flipped or not for a long time anyway, but i showed you so you can see what it looks like, yes all matter from any branch all the way up to the tops, lollipopping done in veg is solely for bushing and letting light penetrate the center of the plant, lollipopping just before flower and mid flower will allow your main colas and side tops to be as large as they can be. so for me i just lollipopped a batch that went to flower last nite, they were in veg for a week I cut off all lower fan leaves and side branches, I will have to re lollipop mid flower as new shoots will appear over the next few weeks as the plants still veg the first week of flower. for your plant tho, yes cut all that matter out now so that the plant will be able to redirect that energy to the tops. you just flipped the lights right? within a week or so?
 

bobbyboy34

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yes it has been 8 days since i flipped into flowering, the question i have, or rather statement, is that leaving the fan leaves is not a bad idea, as to the lower fan leaves will provide back up nutrition for the plants. i think i will do the lollipopping yet leave the fan leaves that don't get in the way of light, but then again it shouldn't because the tops don't have buig fan leaves, i will take pics and see if what i did was adequate
 

offgridgrower

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um, i dont see where it could hurt, meaning i dont think the amount of energy being used by the fan leaves would subtract from the buds to badly, also those fan leaves will die off during the course of the flowering anyway.
 

bobbyboy34

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Flowering week 3, day 17

Things are looking ok, i had to get rid of my monster beast of a MJ plant. It was growing way too wildly, too tall, i had to keep chopping it in order for it not to hit the light (12' ceilings). I was well into week two when i had to chop it once more and realized the difference in budding sites of the smaller one and the beast. I was cutting the beast so much that it stopped slowed down flowering, i didn't even see any nodes with any signs of budding. So i had to chop it down and take it out.

So i now only have one white widow plant. It is growing quite well. I did some clipping of the leaves and lower branches in the first week of flowering, there has been some slow down/delay of budding yet this plant still shows promise, i will no longer do any major pruning during flowering of any crops.

below are pictures, the AN Bloom products i am using seem to be working excellent, i just did a water change yesterday and im not pushing 1800ppm. enjoy the porn:joint:
 

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bobbyboy34

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Flowering
Week 6 day 35

Things are looking ok, not too shaby for my second grow. I found out the ppm white widow should be using, i was going way above that for about 2-3 weeks. The max ppm should have been 1200-1300, i was pushing 1800. So now im back down to 1100-1200.

The sour disel mother plant i put into flowering is looking awesome, its like every day it gets bigger, and it is in soil. I am using C02 boost, an organic c02 supplement, it seems to work well. My next grow will be pure aero so that i don't have to use this big'ol air pump i have, i may be using a smaller one in the aero res.

Check out the pics below to see current status.
 

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bobbyboy34

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Flowering
Week 6 day 40

Well, based upon what my roots looked like a week ago, they are looking much better. I have new root growth, it seems as the overnut'n i was doing (1800 ppm when it was supposed to be 1000-1200 ppm) cause algea or bacter growth, looked more like algea. So now my roots are gaining their rightful color back. I'LL NEVER GROW WITHOUT A PPM METER AGAIN!

I went to the store the other day to buy a gardening hose and a hand held sprayer thing that goes on the end so that you can change the way the water comes out (cone-mist-shower-soak-center-jet) I hooked the gardening hose up to my shower pipe with a pipe converter so that i can wash off my roots. first i tested the temp of the water because i didn't want to shock the plants, so i got the water to be around the same temp the res water was before i emptied it out. I gave the roots a good washing to get off all the buildup and gunk that was on them. My roots look so much beter now, they are actually floating around in the water now rather than sticking to each other1

So as of now everything is well, the soil sour disel plants looks amazing, im a big fan of resin, so i got some Purple Maxx to produce extra oils, so far i see no burning, i've been using if for the past week. I guess you are supposed to use it 4 consecutive waterings, i have one more watering with it. I will also be using some gravity during the last few weeks hopefully on both hydro and soil, but def soil.

Next posting i'll have some updated pics, stay tuned...bongsmilie
 
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