Who Knows Anything About Generators?

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kg2105

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Lets say you were to buy a 168KW diesel generator. How many lights can u run off of it? Does it have 168KW of power available at all times? i don't know anything about generators if someone could share some information on them that would be great. Thanks

i'd been looking at them on ebay.. i dont have that kind of money but i can dream.. save my pennies u kno hah.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Crawford-1400-168KW-Industrial-Generator-With-Trailer_W0QQitemZ200291203004QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Generators?hash=item200291203004&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A3|39%3A1|240%3A1318
 
bleezyg420

bleezyg420

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kg2105 said:
Lets say you were to buy a 168KW diesel generator. How many lights can u run off of it? Does it have 168KW of power available at all times? i don't know anything about generators if someone could share some information on them that would be great. Thanks

i'd been looking at them on ebay.. i dont have that kind of money but i can dream.. save my pennies u kno hah.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Crawford-1400-168KW-Industrial-Generator-With-Trailer_W0QQitemZ200291203004QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Generators?hash=item200291203004&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A3|39%3A1|240%3A1318
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Definitely interested in this as well. Im no electricity guy so I have no clue and im high so im not even going to try. Hopefully someone can clue us in.
 
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BloodShot420

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damn... i dont know much about them either, but that is a huge one ;-)

says 1400amps, so, assuming thats at 120v, it can run about 140 1000w HPS lights, not sure for how long though ;-)

thats a pretty kick ass generator, apparently you cant even tell its running...
 
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Where in the hell am I?

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The output listed on the generator is the output of the generator @ all times. You would be surprised by the amount of lights you can run off one. Noise, however . . .
 
Rudiger

Rudiger

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You might want to make sure your ballasts can run on a gen. I'm not sure if they use a continuous supply of wattage, or if they are like computers and need a digital gen.
 
fat sam

fat sam

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what you do is add it all up.... for the sake of ease lets say it puts out 100 amps rms (constant power, not peak or start up) at 120 volts, so you figure a 1000 watt lamp pulls 9.5 amps, plus some for the wire resistance, the ballast and whatever you loose as heat along the way, so lets call it 12 amps just to be safe, now you never want to load a circuit more than 80% so that leaves you with 80 amps to use from the generator, so off this 100 amp generator you could run 6 lamps plus all the fans and other pumps and stuff you would need, so lets say that your generator put out 1400 amps you could run 84 lights and everything else you would need for an opp that size, probably more like 80 lights because im sure some ac would be needed and you would be good to go without overloading the whole thing......holy shit thats good
 
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RansacktheElder

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Man....I installed an entire conveyor system lasting over 5 months with a gen that size once.......The fuel bill is gonna be outrageous! But if you can handle that, then you can pretty much run whatever you want to with that. If you exceed it, I'm scared.
 
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s0high

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Diesel gens can be ran at roughly 80% capacity on a continuous basis. Gas gens can only run roughly 50-60% capacity. So lets do some math for ya.

134Kw at 80% capacity.
134000Kw / 120volt = 1116 amps

So you could roughly run 1000 1k lights..... Thats alot of weed my friend :)
 
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stuboy892003

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there was a factory next door to where i used to work and they had a large diesel generator running on cheap red diesel and had a lot of lights running from it. you could smell weed everytime they went in and out. sure enough they got busted and a lot of plants got murderd. the police was using a wood shredder on the plants.
 
Amigatec

Amigatec

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That is WAY more generator they you probably need. Something closer to 20k would run a normal house, I bought a 15k last year to power the house don't have it completly wired in yet, This will just about power my whole house.

The one I bought is very close to this model.

Guardian 14 kW Emergency Power System

Runs on Nat Gas or LP, comes with an automatic switch.
 

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MrJDGaF

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You could run approximately 150 1KW lights off that monster covering 2000 square feet @ 75W psf...I think you might need some help taking care of that!;-):peace:
 
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DaGambler

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if you had enough money to afford the first few power bills until harvest... then you'd have enough money to invest in a legal enterprise...

figure you'd probably empty the gas tank almost everyday... they tend to burn through a certain amount of gas even if you only had one light running. And run-time on smaller generators rarely exceeds 10-12 hours on a full tank.

then do the match on what your fuel bill would be, per day, after gas goes back up to 4.00 a gallon. last time i did the math on a running a grow op with gas prices that high... i was like, oh, hell no. i think i had it figured that fuel for the generator alone would suck off the top 25-40% of the profit. you'd be working just to make the gas companies richer.
 
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kg2105

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yeah i know i wouldn't need a generator like that but it was nice.. wow i had no idea it could support that much electrical equipment, that's crazy. Anyone have any idea how much diesel gas would cost a day to run it? I'm thinking no more then 200 a day.. which wouldn't be much when u think of the grand scheme of things.

Amigatec - how much does it cost to run your generator ?
 
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robert 14617

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disguise your opp as a welding shop scatter a few pieces of scrap iron and burnt welding rods hang a sign robs welding service ect.. that would explain the elect consumption........
 
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cannabiscrusader

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ive been doing alot of research on generators lately. There is a type of generator using permanent magnets that will run by itself with no fuel after initial start up. Learned about it in school , but they didnt have much to say about it. After looking into it i found out u can use a 3 phase induction motor to make a generator. Allu have to do is directly couple the axles of the induction motor with another smaller motor. The smaller motor is run off capacitors wich are powered by the larger motor. The larger motor is run through a variable speed drive. The voltage and frequency that come off the leads of the induction motor are then controlled by the variable frequency drive by speeding up or slowing down the smaller motor. The power that comes out is also conditioned by the variable frequency drive making it safe to use in almost any application. Ill be getting some parts together when i get enough cash and try this shit out.
 
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RansacktheElder

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man, unless you can sheild a grow op that huge from the cops, it ain't worth it. Think of the time they'd give you for a grow op that big. You'd make the damn world news!
 
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RansacktheElder

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cannabiscrusader said:
ive been doing alot of research on generators lately. There is a type of generator using permanent magnets that will run by itself with no fuel after initial start up. Learned about it in school , but they didnt have much to say about it. After looking into it i found out u can use a 3 phase induction motor to make a generator. Allu have to do is directly couple the axles of the induction motor with another smaller motor. The smaller motor is run off capacitors wich are powered by the larger motor. The larger motor is run through a variable speed drive. The voltage and frequency that come off the leads of the induction motor are then controlled by the variable frequency drive by speeding up or slowing down the smaller motor. The power that comes out is also conditioned by the variable frequency drive making it safe to use in almost any application. Ill be getting some parts together when i get enough cash and try this shit out.
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What you're tryig to do is the Holy Grail for electrical work. Perpetual motion, etc. I'm pretty sure it can't be done my friend, else we wouldn't still be burning coal for electricity. Diminishing return kills the perpetual energy concept.
 
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