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Indefinately said:

Thanks Rasta,

But how are they going to become "hermie" in 3 days?
They cant produce seeds and pollen in 3 days......
Anyone else have an opinion either way?

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my opinion is the complete opposite.. it will not cause it too hermi, and i dont think it will stress it either. i've hear people say its a "old growers" secret. also seen and heard people leave them in the dark for 3 days before harvest.. im more skeptical of this technique. but 12/12 all the way works too eh.

doniawon said:

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my opinion is the complete opposite.. it will not cause it too hermi, and i dont think it will stress it either. i've hear people say its a "old growers" secret. also seen and heard people leave them in the dark for 3 days before harvest.. im more skeptical of this technique. but 12/12 all the way works too eh.

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i havent tried it but im sure fwit 3days of stress nanners will b poppin up...n i do 24-48hrs darkness have always done it indoor and outdoor (using a black trashbag) and i love the results...the calyxs seem to be bustin and trichs are even more visable after the dark period

rastadred22 said:

i havent tried it but im sure fwit 3days of stress nanners will b poppin up...n i do 24-48hrs darkness have always done it indoor and outdoor (using a black trashbag) and i love the results...the calyxs seem to be bustin and trichs are even more visable after the dark period

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i doubt light stress even induces "nanners". Im still waiting for the proof on this one.. as for last three days of a 10 week bloom cycle. no way. some strains will do that in the very last days, simple a survival trait. im under the impression that the gender of plants more or less work in percentages. genetically predetermined. As for the dark for 3 days.. it seem like it would loosin' things up in the bud structure if anything. but where is the science right.

doniawon said:

i doubt light stress even induces "nanners". Im still waiting for the proof on this one.. as for last three days of a 10 week bloom cycle. no way. some strains will do that in the very last days, simple a survival trait. im under the impression that the gender of plants more or less work in percentages. genetically predetermined. As for the dark for 3 days.. it seem like it would loosin' things up in the bud structure if anything. but where is the science right.

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i dont think its the light that will actually cause the nanners i was saying that since like u said its in its last days and the added stress could force it into its survival state....but yea i cant argue on the dark period as i beleive its preference...just one of those things...i have yet to find anything proving the method...also i usually give the 1-3days darkness wen i drown my trees to speed up the drowning proccess as my last experiment proved

the reason as to y i dont beleive that is becuase some of my trees have seen light for 20-30mins during its dark period and ive switched lite cycles due to power outages. etc. and no hemie nothing

i believe a small percentage of plants carry that trait.. the hermi in the last week thing. i believe that would be something you see regardless of any time change. and i belive this because you see it all the time in 12/12 grows.. I say its a small percentage because i have grown a lot of different strains and only a few in many years have shown to do this. Its best to have stock or a mother that shows no hermi traits obviously.. i call this a 100% female. you can strobe the shit out of all my mothers and they will still be 100% female..

wen i drown my trees to speed up the drowning proccess as my last experiment proved

what is the "drowning proccess" ?

riddleme had come across an experiment...basically to speed up the fermentation proccess while the plant is still growing..when the plant ferments its the same thing we aim to accomplish by jar curing...theres a better explination in the 'calling all noobs thread'..on page 41...also ppl like daniels and a few others have tried it aswell...in my preivious grow i have an experiment where i try to speed up this process by denying light for 3days...check it out

rastadred22 said:

riddleme had come across an experiment...basically to speed up the fermentation proccess while the plant is still growing..when the plant ferments its the same thing we aim to accomplish by jar curing...theres a better explination in the 'calling all noobs thread'..on page 41...also ppl like daniels and a few others have tried it aswell...in my preivious grow i have an experiment where i try to speed up this process by denying light for 3days...check it out

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water cureing?

doniawon said:

water cureing?

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It's not water cureing. You just don't let the roots get any air. The plant starts living off stored sugars & chlorophyll. Fan leaves begin losing the green.
In my experiment I did one of a pair of twins in a PC. 5 to 7 days, then Harvested. Once I dried them, trimmed em we did a smoke report. Drown one needed no cure vs a couple weeks like normal one. Scent & taste were 'cured' early for sure. Some guys have mold/rot problems with trying it. My whole area is low RH so I haven't, but I'll watch for it when I do the next one. RiddleMe is on to something here.
Daniels

whats the best temp for growing?
and i know humidity is also important (at around 50%, correct me if im wrong),
if a out a small bowl with water inside the grow box will it help to rise the humidity to the desired level?

So I think I understand, your saying that with the dark period and flooding the oxygen from the soil sufficating the roots, the stored energy from the plant matter makes a last ditch effort to survive and send all its got to the ripening flowers.. makeing them more ?? bigger, potent. i guess. Sounds like a good experiment for sure. + rep to both you guys good info.

DB&ST said:

whats the best temp for growing?
and i know humidity is also important (at around 50%, correct me if im wrong),
if a out a small bowl with water inside the grow box will it help to rise the humidity to the desired level?

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75f, 85 with a proper co2 set up. 26 c.

doniawon said:

So I think I understand, your saying that with the dark period and flooding the oxygen from the soil sufficating the roots, the stored energy from the plant matter makes a last ditch effort to survive and send all its got to the ripening flowers.. makeing them more ?? bigger, potent. i guess. Sounds like a good experiment for sure. + rep to both you guys good info.

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yea during this process the bud prety much get bloated and wen they stop drinkin is wen u kno the fermentation process begins...what it does is at its last ditch effort this process creates fermentation..almost like jar curing be4 u even chop...i couldnt find anything wide enough for my tree im about to harvest but id be doing it again! im an instant beleiver and i will forever drown trees lol! thank u +rep bac at ya

I am currently in the works of 2 bagseed monsters under 4 100 watt CFLS AND one seems to be shedding a layer of skin off of its main stem. I know, it looks as weird as it sounds... any ideas on what it could be????

I am currently under the works of 2 bagseed MONSTERS under 4 100 watt equivelent cfls
AND one seems to be shedding a layer of skin off of its main stem, i know, it looks as weird as it sounds... any ideas on what it could be?

Still in the business of helping?

First grow and switching to flower tonight. Plants are in perlite/coco mix getting watered for 15 minutes 4 times a day in an ebb and flow system. Right now, they are looking awesome!

How should we change the light cycle for flowering? Thinking 3X during the lights-on part of the day, but should we avoid putting them 'to bed' when they're freshly watered?

Hi streetlegal or any fellow friends that have any good advice, my question is this I have some decent strains i want more of a bush then a tree do you have any suggestions on how to grow out not tall?
just some good pruning tips or rules.
thanks my brother and sisters.

ok so i have a question. i have a small grow box and i dont have a fan. well i have a small one but it is alittle to loud. also my plant is about 2 and a half inches tall with 4 leaves on it. 2 rigid and 2 round. how high should i put the lights ( cfl ) not to bright cant remember the watts but average anyway. its been about 5 days since planted. how much water should i give them and is it possible to grow without a fan? what are complications i may face? i do not know my strain.

bigbearrob said:

Hi streetlegal or any fellow friends that have any good advice, my question is this I have some decent strains i want more of a bush then a tree do you have any suggestions on how to grow out not tall?
just some good pruning tips or rules.
thanks my brother and sisters.

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look into LST, topping and fimming search those and get a good grasp on them as those are great techniques.

BigGreenSplang said:

ok so i have a question. i have a small grow box and i dont have a fan. well i have a small one but it is alittle to loud. also my plant is about 2 and a half inches tall with 4 leaves on it. 2 rigid and 2 round. how high should i put the lights ( cfl ) not to bright cant remember the watts but average anyway. its been about 5 days since planted. how much water should i give them and is it possible to grow without a fan? what are complications i may face? i do not know my strain.

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since ur plant is small u dont need the light super close maybe 10inches or so...u need to look into getting mroe than one cfl and a u need air circulation...and u water untill there is a slight run off and repeat wen soil is dry...the most important thing about growing is ur environment u need to have everything dialed in..if its not no matter what strain what lights wat nute etc u have it wont matter u wont get optimal results air movement is very important, also reduces heat, strengthens stems etc...i would grow witout one...i dont have one in my vege box but that is only for about 2-3weeks