hockey4848
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Cali/colorado clubs everywhere with $200 zips.
Michigan, clubs everywhere with $400+ zips lol.
What gives?
Michigan, clubs everywhere with $400+ zips lol.
What gives?
Why do Colorado/cali clubs have cheap prices and Michigan is soooo expensive?
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Rare D MI
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Because the market has progressed further there than it has here so far. Street price in MI has dropped significantly since medical passed.
The reason most shops are expensive still here is because the dispensary owners are essentially middlemen for the most part. Only a small percentage are self sufficient. So their main overhead of their business is purchasing meds to keep in stock. In Colorado dispensaries are required to produce 70% of the product on their shelves. This started a price war, because every dispensary now had to have a warehouse full of plants. And once this happened the quality of it dropped. Trust me, I have spent about 45 days in Denver over the last 2 years. The $200 an oz herb sucks. Smokes like shit, covered in PM or mites. The industry is regulated, but not for quality. Very few shops have high end herb. The ones that do, charge more like $275-300 an oz. still.
The reason most shops are expensive still here is because the dispensary owners are essentially middlemen for the most part. Only a small percentage are self sufficient. So their main overhead of their business is purchasing meds to keep in stock. In Colorado dispensaries are required to produce 70% of the product on their shelves. This started a price war, because every dispensary now had to have a warehouse full of plants. And once this happened the quality of it dropped. Trust me, I have spent about 45 days in Denver over the last 2 years. The $200 an oz herb sucks. Smokes like shit, covered in PM or mites. The industry is regulated, but not for quality. Very few shops have high end herb. The ones that do, charge more like $275-300 an oz. still.
BeaverHuntr
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Cali's top shelf is not 200 at dispensaries. Maybe their outdoor / mids are but most of the top shelf is still 325-400 a zone.
Cory and trevor
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I said it before and I'm saying it again: top shelf was 300-400 per oz in 1997 and hard to find and in 2020 it will be the same, but even more expensive due to an assumed inflation. top shelf is and always and always will be harder to find than regs and more expensive. I agree that there is much more reg being passed off as top shelf around here and sold at the top shelf price but you will not find a top shelf ounce for less than 300 unless you know a guy really well and are really tight.
hockey4848
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Yeah you guys are right, I have never been to a shop in cali or colorado, just browsed the menus on some their sites for fun to compare prices from what I see in Michigan clubs.
regs are 240-320 up here, 49770..flooded with regs and that price will be dropping sometime before summer.
Rare D MI
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The price drop has happened in the wholesale market and street market already. I see really good high end herb for 36-3800 a lb. decent herb for 32. All indoor locally grown. Same people that I was getting the same herb from 3 years ago for 4800, just a market shift. Only thing still getting high ticket are OGs and other special varieties.
From what I have gathered, the price for high end top shelf herb will always hover around $250 an oz. in medical states. I feel that is a fair market value. Sure I loved when my herb fetched $350 an oz 3-4 years ago, but times have changed and a weight has been lifted off of my shoulders, I'll take that trade off.
Bigtacofarmer
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Also. Michigan has had a few areas with a little good herb for a while but the most of the state has been smoking imported crap until just recently. Colorado and California have had a strong high grade market for as long as I've known and many more years. Many of the growers I know got there start on the west coast or in Colorado. But mostly what Rare D said. As time goes on the people with lower quality will be forced to see it. I would like to see more of a sativa market, its a shame there is little encouragement to commercially grow a strain that takes 3 times as long. If done well I'd pay extra for some top shelf Haze or Thai's, but all I see usually is the bottoms of someone elses. Not that I blame them, I smoke the best of my 100 day shit too!
buckaroo bonzai
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do you pay more for cigarettes at 7eleven??
think of the clubs as 7eleven for erb--always gonna be 1$ more...for everything
i like to get mine from small 'boutique' growers with high quality
and I don't mind paying the price if the shit will blo the top of your head out and make you drive around 'carefully' in circles trying to find your way home--
like good indoor done right should do-
70-80% of the market here in Michigan is going to collapse soon with their crappy shwagg---and inexperience
most will not be able to give their shwagg away once more experienced growers come online and show consumers what great medicine is-
in Cali and Colorado you get the 'in town local' price from growers.....or the 'visitor' price
even with a fully saturated market.....you can still get good $ for the right strains and quality-
from what I know about growing medicine--it takes 3yrs to learn the right way-
unless someone holds your hand and walks you thru the process..
....then the rest of your life to practice what you learn those first 3...
the learning curve here is about to go vertical and seperate the wannabes from the experience
how long have we had a law in mich? right --we are just about to go 'online' so to speak--
think of it as our law is just in week 1-2 of flowering ....and watch what's gonna happen-
the biggest problem here in Michigan and why they 'try' and charge so much is--
clubs here are still straddling the fence between the Cali compassion colective model and the Colorado 'for profit' model...they are charging as much as the market will bear and most here are out for a buck$$
so far the clubs are willing to try and sell anything and evrything they can get their hands on to justify themselves and step up to supply--
....which will soon change as dmand for quality increases....the clubs will have to scrutinize their wares
folks are tired of smokin shwagg and paying alot $$ and are looking for the best new medicine
how can folks in a depressed economy like mich pay 400$ oz for erb when there are no jobs--
well just watch this summer....gonna be a consumers market with only the best commandin top $$--
think of the clubs as 7eleven for erb--always gonna be 1$ more...for everything
i like to get mine from small 'boutique' growers with high quality
and I don't mind paying the price if the shit will blo the top of your head out and make you drive around 'carefully' in circles trying to find your way home--
like good indoor done right should do-
70-80% of the market here in Michigan is going to collapse soon with their crappy shwagg---and inexperience
most will not be able to give their shwagg away once more experienced growers come online and show consumers what great medicine is-
in Cali and Colorado you get the 'in town local' price from growers.....or the 'visitor' price
even with a fully saturated market.....you can still get good $ for the right strains and quality-
from what I know about growing medicine--it takes 3yrs to learn the right way-
unless someone holds your hand and walks you thru the process..
....then the rest of your life to practice what you learn those first 3...
the learning curve here is about to go vertical and seperate the wannabes from the experience
how long have we had a law in mich? right --we are just about to go 'online' so to speak--
think of it as our law is just in week 1-2 of flowering ....and watch what's gonna happen-
the biggest problem here in Michigan and why they 'try' and charge so much is--
clubs here are still straddling the fence between the Cali compassion colective model and the Colorado 'for profit' model...they are charging as much as the market will bear and most here are out for a buck$$
so far the clubs are willing to try and sell anything and evrything they can get their hands on to justify themselves and step up to supply--
....which will soon change as dmand for quality increases....the clubs will have to scrutinize their wares
folks are tired of smokin shwagg and paying alot $$ and are looking for the best new medicine
how can folks in a depressed economy like mich pay 400$ oz for erb when there are no jobs--
well just watch this summer....gonna be a consumers market with only the best commandin top $$--
Corso312
Well-Known Member
Lotta truth in this thread, I remember when I was 22 and that was early 2000's n top shelf was 5k....then it dipped 1-2 hundo almost yearly...now I can get top shelffor 34...Cali n rado are exporting 20-25% of their top innies ... if I went there I could grab top shelf innie's whole sale @ 28...it will happen here in 2 years as more growers improve, ....if Indiana passes n Illinois follows the prices will drop even more.
Rare D MI
New Member
Wisconsin and Illinois are closer than Indiana to it passing. I don't think either of those will impact the market here. I think it has pretty much leveled out. Don't think we'll see high end herb for less than 32 in Michigan ever. I've seen some decent stuff in Colorado that was 26. But the scale they grow on there won't be matched here.
Weedz b Baked
Active Member
Michigan does have dispensaries who can give out some good deals. Paid 220 for this dank bubba kush at a club. I've also been told at another club an oz cost 525$... It's kind of frustrating because I feel like when I go to a dispensary I have to tell them to quit the bullshit salesmen pitch and just let me look. Definitely hate the mentality 'We have the best meds' blah blah blah.
SpicySativa
Well-Known Member
Because in Cali we have giant mega-farms in the hills cranking out hundreds of pounds of herb... And fucking up the environment in a MAJOR way... But that's another topic entirely.
buckaroo bonzai
Well-Known Member
hundreds?? ......how bout tons?, I read the internet--and used to live there...
i don't ever sell medicine/pot----in fact I heard an old hippie proverb once that said ....
"never 'say' the word 'sell' and pot in the same sentence"......
i think they meant it was bad luck or some hippie juju shit-
i think dispensaries have 'lawyers' that tell them what to say---lol
----go to the fucked up environment from mmj growers thread....mega mega mega mega mega.......pharms-
SpicySativa
Well-Known Member
I started that thread.
thoumayest
Well-Known Member
do you pay more for cigarettes at 7eleven??
think of the clubs as 7eleven for erb--always gonna be 1$ more...for everything
i like to get mine from small 'boutique' growers with high quality
and I don't mind paying the price if the shit will blo the top of your head out and make you drive around 'carefully' in circles trying to find your way home--
like good indoor done right should do-
70-80% of the market here in Michigan is going to collapse soon with their crappy shwagg---and inexperience
most will not be able to give their shwagg away once more experienced growers come online and show consumers what great medicine is-
in Cali and Colorado you get the 'in town local' price from growers.....or the 'visitor' price
even with a fully saturated market.....you can still get good $ for the right strains and quality-
from what I know about growing medicine--it takes 3yrs to learn the right way-
unless someone holds your hand and walks you thru the process..
....then the rest of your life to practice what you learn those first 3...
the learning curve here is about to go vertical and seperate the wannabes from the experience
how long have we had a law in mich? right --we are just about to go 'online' so to speak--
think of it as our law is just in week 1-2 of flowering ....and watch what's gonna happen-
the biggest problem here in Michigan and why they 'try' and charge so much is--
clubs here are still straddling the fence between the Cali compassion colective model and the Colorado 'for profit' model...they are charging as much as the market will bear and most here are out for a buck$$
so far the clubs are willing to try and sell anything and evrything they can get their hands on to justify themselves and step up to supply--
....which will soon change as dmand for quality increases....the clubs will have to scrutinize their wares
folks are tired of smokin shwagg and paying alot $$ and are looking for the best new medicine
how can folks in a depressed economy like mich pay 400$ oz for erb when there are no jobs--
well just watch this summer....gonna be a consumers market with only the best commandin top $$--
It's already begun imo
...... Its gonna take another 10-15yrs for MI to be in the category of top quality good priced meds with Cali and Col. I really hope that prediction is wrong.......