Why do psychedelics make One contradict Themselves?

Obviously, psychedelic drugs such a psilocybin mushrooms, DMT, LSD, cannabis [or as We all know, marijuana], and even MDMA; have certain effects that describe a "psychedelic trip". At certain dosages, there can be a wide range of effects. The lower the dosage, the easier to handle. The higher the dosage, the more intense the effects are going to present Themselves.

Now, quite honestly psychedelics have shown Me on how to release One's ego and become more in touch with the outer, exterior. I've taken rather large doses of cannabis, DMT, or psilocybin mushies before, Mate. And wow, man; those experiences really can show Oneself Their own ego from a different perspective. Cannabis is always a tricky one; for Me... I either have to eat the bloody edibles everyone is talking about or take a whole two weeks break from using any form of cannabis... But let's be real, Mate; who is going to take two weeks off from that? lol But if One does take a break from using cannabis and does it again; the effects of an ego loss is phenomenal. Just phenomenal. One time a bloak took His first toke of cannabis; first time ever smoking pot, man. He became so self conscious of His own experience that His ego could be described as completely "lost" or "gone"; rather. The whole experience only lasted 2-5 hours; at the very most.

I'm just curious to everyone's input on how psychedelics may make One contradict Themselves, while under the influence of psychedelic substances. Is this because all psychedelic drugs have an ego loss effect? I've always found Myself being more of a person of change because of psychedelic drugs; compared to other drugs that are not psychedelic. Non psychedelics drugs like alcohol or cocaine have always made Me feel more grounded and not up in the clouds like any psychedelic provides. Is it that psychedelic drugs "get One high" to that place up in the sky where One finds Themselves "egoless"?

I've never experienced psychedelics other than cannabis. I seem to "trip" on doses that most I've smoked with would consider small. Typically I only smoke flower and just a little bit at once, 2 or 3 grains of rice size. This amount every 45 minutes or hour.

When I smoke more, I often experience deep introspection. It is only on these times that I find myself looking at events past or present from other people's possible perspective as I feel my own experience to become second to others.

Unfortunately I can rarely enjoy this, as I often find myself in a sudden panic attack that will go on until I start to "come down". However as the panic attack starts to fade I find myself in a blissful euphoria similar to a strong dose of opiates.

I'm not familiar with ego loss, or any other effects typically associated with tripping but I do get close eyed visuals on occasion.

I can enjoy larger doses of cannabis in much the same way I enjoy smaller doses but only if consumed in equal parts of a High cbd strain (15% cbd or so). Yet I don't get the deep thoughts or ability to think as if i were someone else.

I've always been cautions of trying other psychedelics because of the way cannabis effects me.

You lost me at "psychedelic" and "cannabis".

Cannabis doesn't do me like psilocybin/shrooms, never tripped off marijuana...
A few traces from hit of strong sativa after a few month break, but never trip like shrooms.

Good weed or oil will definitely make me trip when I have no tolerance, like open/closed eye pattern visuals, enhanced colors, sharpness of edges etc. Enough edibles will do the job even with a tolerance.

The ego loss thing, I dunno, it’s funny when we take ourselves seriously

skuba said:

Good weed or oil will definitely make me trip when I have no tolerance, like open/closed eye pattern visuals, enhanced colors, sharpness of edges etc. Enough edibles will do the job even with a tolerance.

The ego loss thing, I dunno, it’s funny when we take ourselves seriously

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When is the last time You took a two week break from weed or oil there, @skuba?

HeatlessBBQ said:

When is the last time You took a two week break from weed or oil there, @skuba?

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@Heatless “it’s been a while”

skuba said:

@Heatless “it’s been a while”

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Then perhaps 'the ego death' effects are not present because that is such a thing?
It is a wild experience, Mate.

That is why "Set and Setting" is crucial to One's own space and experience/s.
'Ego deaths' are extremely common when One has no tolerance to the substance.

HeatlessBBQ said:

Then perhaps 'the ego death' effects are not present because that is such a thing?
It is a wild experience, Mate.

That is why "Set and Setting" is crucial to One's own space and experience/s.
'Ego deaths' are extremely common when One has no tolerance to the substance.

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Agreed

They don’t. Well they have. No they don’t.



Well they have.

Ego death is a term to describe the complete loss of ego never to return and only a handful of people have ever experienced this, I would highly recommend "A New Earth" by Eckhart Tolle. A temporary transcendental state is certainly possible on psychedelics where the ego is no longer present for a time, this state is also possible on cocaine and methamphetamine, however in my own experience on acid and mushrooms is a suspended ego that is still present but somehow feels very alien to me and often changes to great extents and gives me the feeling of having multiple personalities. The last time I took mushrooms I went through this strange phase of shifting personalities(egos) from an old native wise woman to a Frenchman from France, but somehow this didn't freak me out I just watched it happen as if my consciousness was grounded and the ego suspended somewhere else.

Explaining an 'ego death' or having a conversation about out of body experiences is quite difficult; due to so many different perceptions / experience/s on the matter. One may explain that They fly out Their bedroom window while watching Their physical body lay, idly by. And another may explain that They lived in a state of fear, panic... Or even the feeling of dying for the first time and being reborn again.

MDMA may instigate an 'ego death', if abused or not to be taken lightly.
Especially mixed with LSD or any psychedelic, at that.


*[side note: "however, mixing MDMA with a DMT session seems to hold One back from a breakthrough."]

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"There would be a jumping between personalities with a hint of extreme paranoia / relief.
One state would ground and comfort. The other would spin out and frighten."

So many different people are throwing around the term "ego death"; it sickens Me.
You hear the phrase so often, it doesn't even scrape the surface of what the experience actually is.
Is it that I took a heavy dose of mescaline and experienced a phenomenon?
Or is it that I got so high that My ego dissolved to the point where I become One with All?

That is what frightens Me of coming down from My most profound, psychedelic trips.
Feeling at One with My surroundings, ecstatically raving with what's going on in My head; filled with pure bliss and a looking forward to what's ahead and coming. Then smack; right back down to My own ego. Where I only focus on Myself, instead of others. That is why I see it impossible to not have any weed around after any psychedelic trip, especially MDMA.