Why Grow?

tomatogrowop

Active Member
Benefits of Growing our own medication.

:leaf:1. Quality (no bugs, mold or metal shavings)
:leaf:2. you don't fund drug lords or gangs (simple)
:leaf:3. More control over ingredients. (no fillers chemicals or other)


Here is an image of the worst smallest popcorn buds from home made hydro vs the BEST brown Mexican stress.
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The stress gets you up lightly for about 2hr after a joint. :sleep:
The poor quality hydro will kick your ass for 4hr off 3 hits:roll:

Reason 5. The feeling of accomplishment when you reap the fruits of your labor.
 

Oldreefer

Well-Known Member
Well said....I got so tired of hearing....another day or two, maybe an hour....then hook up with some seedy poor ass something sombody labeled weed.....Growing my own medication has been great, with total control over all aspects...
 

Stomata

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Plus by growing your own, you're not lining the pockets of cartels, terrorists, or otherwise shady individuals. This just adds to the reasons why it's time to legalize NOW and put a stop to the madness. The only reason dope was outlawed in the first place was because white southern men didn't like their white southern women hanging with the black and mexican pot smokers. That, and companies like DuPont who knew that given the wide application of hemp fibers, would be too much of a competitor to their synthetics. And let's not forget the pharmaceutical companies.

Legal or not, people are still going to smoke dope. That's why I will never support any change in the 2nd amendment. Just because guns are outlawed doesn't mean people will no longer have them. If guns are outlawed, then only the bad guys will have them and the good guys will be at their mercy.
 

tomatogrowop

Active Member
don't forget the petrol man who helped ban it so we could destroy the atmosphere with carbon and chemical byproducts, when the original engine was invented to run on hemp alcohol.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Plus by growing your own, you're not lining the pockets of cartels, terrorists, or otherwise shady individuals. This just adds to the reasons why it's time to legalize NOW and put a stop to the madness. The only reason dope was outlawed in the first place was because white southern men didn't like their white southern women hanging with the black and mexican pot smokers. That, and companies like DuPont who knew that given the wide application of hemp fibers, would be too much of a competitor to their synthetics. And let's not forget the pharmaceutical companies.

Legal or not, people are still going to smoke dope. That's why I will never support any change in the 2nd amendment. Just because guns are outlawed doesn't mean people will no longer have them. If guns are outlawed, then only the bad guys will have them and the good guys will be at their mercy.
that ludacris dude pot was outlawed for the rong reasons, and it will be legal soon hopefuly. but a rasist coment like that is BS
 

Stomata

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that ludacris dude pot was outlawed for the rong reasons, and it will be legal soon hopefuly. but a rasist coment like that is BS
How was my comment racist? I was just stating the facts of history. Yes the lawmakers actions and reasoning were racist, but I don't see how my comment is. It's the truth. Look it up if you don't believe me.
 

anonymuss

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depends where u live. most shit i buy is just grown in some guys garage or on his buddies land.

no gang weed around here tmk
 

Akay

Member
don't forget the petrol man who helped ban it so we could destroy the atmosphere with carbon and chemical byproducts, when the original engine was invented to run on hemp alcohol.
Very true... Henry Ford's ENTIRE car was actually built from hemp.. and get this.. the structure was 10x stronger than steel!! It makes sense why the greedy corporate elite would want to ban such a substance with literally limitless uses.. I just can't comprehend why anyone would want to destroy our planet and it's atmosphere.. just to get a little more rich and powerful?.. it doesn't seem worth it when the net result is the extinction of the human species.
 

tomatogrowop

Active Member
I don't think he's trying to be blatantly racist. I've heard the same statement in the past, but the way I heard it was that caucasian racists (and not every caucasian person on the planet) outlawed the ganja because they didn't like the other races making money or something. The sad part is that every country was forced to sign agreements to ban it before the USA would let them join the UN or some trade agreement shit. I don't remember the history exactly, but it's something like that
 

tomatogrowop

Active Member
I don't think you meant what you said the way he read it.

I think it's a bad stereotype because it kind of sounded like you meant "all Southern white people". And then you naively made it sound like all white men are over jealous of the women they are with.

It didn't bother me but I think that's how hellraizer30 may have read it.
 

Johnnyorganic

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don't forget the petrol man who helped ban it so we could destroy the atmosphere with carbon and chemical byproducts, when the original engine was invented to run on hemp alcohol.
I don't grow medicine. I am not sick.

I grow cannabis. Relaxation and civil disobedience are my motivators.

Who invented this hemp alcohol powered combustion engine you referenced? I would very much like to know more as I have never heard of it.

I am aware of Rudolf Diesel, who invented the diesel engine with the idea that people could grow and make their own biodiesel locally. Hempseed biodiesel was one of the the options considered for fuel.
 

leonphelpss11

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How was my comment racist? I was just stating the facts of history. Yes the lawmakers actions and reasoning were racist, but I don't see how my comment is. It's the truth. Look it up if you don't believe me.
QFT.. Obviously hellraizer30 does not know the history behind the biggest cash crop in America. If you have Netflix, I recommend a film called The Union. Explains everything and more
 

Johnnyorganic

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that ludacris dude pot was outlawed for the rong reasons, and it will be legal soon hopefuly. but a rasist coment like that is BS
During the 1930's it was widely alleged by supporters of cannabis Prohibition that cannabis would make white women susceptible to the charms of black jazz musicians.

Google quotes of Harry Anslinger if you don't believe me.

How does merely pointing that out, a historical fact, make Stomata's comment racist?

Are you clear on the definition of racist?
 

tomatogrowop

Active Member
I don't grow medicine. I am not sick.

I grow cannabis. Relaxation and civil disobedience are my motivators.
Everyone has their own reasons I never claimed to know them all.

Who invented this hemp alcohol powered combustion engine you referenced?
Perhaps it was an airplane motor. I may be wrong but I believe I saw on discovery channel. They may not be very historically accurate.
 

DoobieBrother

Well-Known Member
*Originally Posted by Johnnyorganic:
"Who invented this hemp alcohol powered combustion engine you referenced?"


That would be Henry Ford in America, and Rudolph Diesel in Germany. Perhaps you've heard of them?
My dad is almost 80 now, and is a master mechanic who is the son of a master mechanic.
For their Model T truck and, later, their Model A car, they would buy kerosene (stove oil) and castor oil and mix it with gasoline. They ran better that way (for more reasons than just the fuel's combustibility: the stove oil/kerosene & castor oil added lubrication that early Ford motors were sadly in need of thanks to a pathetic "dip & splash" method of trying to keep the mains bushings and cylinder walls lubed.).
Just as diesels of today can be run on biodiesel, so could gasoline engines be run on similar fuels 80 years ago.
Diesel was always more expensive to produce (it is a byproduct of refining petroleum products, but comes in much later in the refining process than gasoline).
By mixing in just enough gasoline to help promote stable ignition at lower compression ratios, you could safely, and more effectively run the old engines with such mixtures.
And it wasn't so much that whites were worried about the women mingling with blacks & Mexicans, it was a worry to many in those days that ANY whites would be mingling with "colored folk".
My dad's an old coon ass from South East Louisiana (my last name ends in "eaux") who grew up on the wrong side of the tracks a stone's throw from the Atchafalaya Swamp and he never cared what color a person was.
His best friends were cajuns, creoles, Mexicans, Italians, Native Americans, blacks, etc.).
He adopted me, a half T'lingit from South East Alaska, because he knows skin color and heritage don't make someone worse, or better, than anyone else.
But many whites demanded segregation (and many blacks did too, with good reason ;-) ). Not just in the South, but all over the nation.
It was an easy way to make cannabis and hemp seem like it would destroy the pristine fabric of white America, and helped put the nail in the coffin for legal hemp and for cannabis.
When I was a little kid visiting my grandma in Addis, we'd drive up to Shreveport to go picnic in a public park that had a small swimming pool. There were still signs EVERYWHERE that said "No Coloreds Allowed", restrooms marked as "Whites Only" & "Coloreds Only", drinking fountains, diners & restaurants, and more. All over the place.
So ease up on the racist tripe.
It wasn't inferred in the original statement, so don't make it seem like it was.
And do some damn research before you start flappin your fingers against the keyboard and hitting the "Enter" key.
Peace
bongsmilie.
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
*Originally Posted by Johnnyorganic:
"Who invented this hemp alcohol powered combustion engine you referenced?"


That would be Henry Ford in America, and Rudolph Diesel in Germany. Perhaps you've heard of them?
My dad is almost 80 now, and is a master mechanic who is the son of a master mechanic.
For their Model T truck and, later, their Model A car, they would buy kerosene (stove oil) and castor oil and mix it with gasoline. They ran better that way (for more reasons than just the fuel's combustibility: the stove oil/kerosene & castor oil added lubrication that early Ford motors were sadly in need of thanks to a pathetic "dip & splash" method of trying to keep the mains bushings and cylinder walls lubed.).
Just as diesels of today can be run on biodiesel, so could gasoline engines be run on similar fuels 80 years ago.
Diesel was always more expensive to produce (it is a byproduct of refining petroleum products, but comes in much later in the refining process than gasoline).
By mixing in just enough gasoline to help promote stable ignition at lower compression ratios, you could safely, and more effectively run the old engines with such mixtures.
And it wasn't so much that whites were worried about the women mingling with blacks & Mexicans, it was a worry to many in those days that ANY whites would be mingling with "colored folk".
My dad's an old coon ass from South East Louisiana (my last name ends in "eaux") who grew up on the wrong side of the tracks a stone's throw from the Atchafalaya Swamp and he never cared what color a person was.
His best friends were cajuns, creoles, Mexicans, Italians, Native Americans, blacks, etc.).
He adopted me, a half T'lingit from South East Alaska, because he knows skin color and heritage don't make someone worse, or better, than anyone else.
But many whites demanded segregation (and many blacks did too, with good reason ;-) ). Not just in the South, but all over the nation.
It was an easy way to make cannabis and hemp seem like it would destroy the pristine fabric of white America, and helped put the nail in the coffin for legal hemp and for cannabis.
When I was a little kid visiting my grandma in Addis, we'd drive up to Shreveport to go picnic in a public park that had a small swimming pool. There were still signs EVERYWHERE that said "No Coloreds Allowed", restrooms marked as "Whites Only" & "Coloreds Only", drinking fountains, diners & restaurants, and more. All over the place.
So ease up on the racist tripe.
It wasn't inferred in the original statement, so don't make it seem like it was.
And do some damn research before you start flappin your fingers against the keyboard and hitting the "Enter" key.
Peace
bongsmilie.
Step down off your high horse, mister.

I mentioned Rudolf Diesel in my original response.

And I am also aware of Henry Ford's hemp car research. I just had never heard of a hemp alcohol engine and was asking for more information.

And please point out where in any of my contributions you can identify 'racist tripe.'

One more thing.... :finger:
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
Everyone has their own reasons I never claimed to know them all.
Your first sentence in the thread indicates otherwise. Please forgive the selective qoute, but there is no reason to quote the entire post.

Benefits of Growing our own medication.
I don't grow 'medication.' I grow cannabis for non-medical reasons and I cringe a little when people assume that everybody is a patient just because they are.

Perhaps it was an airplane motor. I may be wrong but I believe I saw on discovery channel. They may not be very historically accurate.
Okay. I was just wondering. The alcohol hemp engine is intriguing.
 
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