Will you buy legal weed or grow your own?

TheRealDman

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pre fabbed steel building...what fire hazard?
I agree wholeheartedly dude, but It doesn't matter how you throw the logic at insurance companies, unless you're a $10M LP you will be denied as soon as you mention MMJ! Sad, but true...at least until we get a Phelan decision, or legislation from JT.
 

TheRealDman

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Thats ok...I'm not worried about my op burning anyways.
Nor am I, but being denied a new policy put me in a sticky situation with my mortgage company. You cannot get a mortgage in Canada without a minimum of fire insurance. I went for two months with out a homeowners policy, which is actually a default on the mortgage...oops! In order to get that fire insurance, you must first find an insurance company that will insure MMJ as a risk....right now you can't.

Luckily I was able to find coverage with Lloyds of London, which has a special policy set out for "former MMJ grow ops". Lloyds was the only one, no insurance company in Canada would touch me even as former MMJ Op completely shut down. So what my mortgage company doesn't know about the 2 months of no coverage...won't hurt them! :mrgreen:
 

torontoke

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And if you turn the light back on now and never have a fire how would lloyds know?
If something happened you would be in court for the rest of your life but you would be medicated.
 

redi jedi

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Nor am I, but being denied a new policy put me in a sticky situation with my mortgage company. You cannot get a mortgage in Canada without a minimum of fire insurance. I went for two months with out a homeowners policy, which is actually a default on the mortgage...oops! In order to get that fire insurance, you must first find an insurance company that will insure MMJ as a risk....right now you can't.

Luckily I was able to find coverage with Lloyds of London, which has a special policy set out for "former MMJ grow ops". Lloyds was the only one, no insurance company in Canada would touch me even as former MMJ Op completely shut down. So what my mortgage company doesn't know about the 2 months of no coverage...won't hurt them! :mrgreen:
Why tell the insurance company your growing? Yes I realize if something did happen..your fuct. You just have to be comfortable with a degree of risk...IMO
 

TheRealDman

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Why tell the insurance company your growing? Yes I realize if something did happen..your fuct. You just have to be comfortable with a degree of risk...IMO
Canadian homeowners insurance policies in every province all now ask the question "has MJ ever grown in the residence...medical or not?"

Sure I could've lied, but would've had a hard time explaining why I couldn't let the insurance company inspector into that 15 x 15 room in the basement. Trust me, many times since April I've almost fired the quantum's back up, but have held off waiting for Phelan decision.

Oh and fwiw...as I stated earlier, Lloyds of London was the only insurance company in Canada that was insuring MMAR homegrows before the MMPR to effect. Lloyds has assured me that if a Phelan decision goes in our favour, and/or legislation comes into effect..they will once again offer home owners coverage and flip me over to an "active MMJ grow" policy, with the only stipulation of an electrical inspection. I should add, I am paying roughly 25% more in premiums than a typical homeowner policy.

The insurance industry is quite capable of regulating home grows to make sure that they are safe and of no threat to public safety, while at the same time, ensuring those who choose to grow their own MMJ are adequately covered for home insurance purposes.
 

redi jedi

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I've never had an inspector come to my house?...but I was able to give them the details they needed over the phone..type of construction..brick or siding...square footage...all the info they would need to estimate a cost to rebuild. No other reason for them to come and inspect.
 
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TheRealDman

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I've never had an inspector come to my house?...but I was able to give them the details they needed over for the phone..type of construction..brick or siding...square footage...all the info they would need to estimate a cost to rebuild. No other reason for them to come and inspect.
Not in my recent experience dude. They all want an on-site inspection these days, including interior/exterior pics. Same deal with my recent mortgage refinancing. The bank wanted fresh appraisal, and I had to walk the guy through my whole house.
 

GroErr

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Not in my recent experience dude. They all want an on-site inspection these days, including interior/exterior pics. Same deal with my recent mortgage refinancing. The bank wanted fresh appraisal, and I had to walk the guy through my whole house.
That's not the norm, at least not in regular subdivision houses. Must be the mortgage company/insurer you're dealing with, you're in a unique property, or you're flagged in their system. I bought the place I'm in 3 years ago, just renewed my mortgage with a new lender and changed my insurance company at the same time. No appraisers, inspectors or the like. Pictures of the outside of the house showing the construction for replacement value purposes, that was the extent of it. Only other on-site inspections I've experienced were for a country property I sold because it had known fireplaces installed and they want to see that they are installed to current spec. But that was it, they inspected the areas where the 2x fireplaces were installed, not a general inspection of the whole house. If you were getting an appraisal, that would justify a complete house/room inspection, but renewing insurance, that's a policy from the company you're dealing with.
 

redi jedi

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My buddy bought a house out by Peterborough, this spring and he waived the home inspection during negotiation...lol...the insurance company he went with said the pictures of the home on MLS where good enough.
 

GroErr

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My buddy bought a house out by Peterborough, this spring and he waived the home inspection during negotiation...lol...the insurance company he went with said the pictures of the home on MLS where good enough.
Yeah, mine was just concerned with pics to confirm the all-brick construction as some houses on the street are a mix of brick/siding, other than that it was like whatever. I didn't fight them - lol
 

TheRealDman

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That's not the norm, at least not in regular subdivision houses. Must be the mortgage company/insurer you're dealing with, you're in a unique property, or you're flagged in their system. I bought the place I'm in 3 years ago, just renewed my mortgage with a new lender and changed my insurance company at the same time. No appraisers, inspectors or the like. Pictures of the outside of the house showing the construction for replacement value purposes, that was the extent of it. Only other on-site inspections I've experienced were for a country property I sold because it had known fireplaces installed and they want to see that they are installed to current spec. But that was it, they inspected the areas where the 2x fireplaces were installed, not a general inspection of the whole house. If you were getting an appraisal, that would justify a complete house/room inspection, but renewing insurance, that's a policy from the company you're dealing with.
We have a rural property, 1+ acres.

Every insurance company I called in Ontario said for new policies they require a home inspection. The bank said they needed a new appraisal, because of the increase in housing prices. When we refinanced the mortgage 5 years ago the bank sent an appraiser out then as well, so I'm assuming that's been the norm for quite some time? I was actually OK with the bank appraisal because we have done some upgrades to the house, and ended up getting a very sweet number! :)
 

rnr

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well I know for a fack, if you kept your insurance with loyds, and are still growing with no interuptions, then you are able to keep it up till the allard case is over, a new file or a renew your out.
I used loyds for yrs
 

TheRealDman

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well I know for a fack, if you kept your insurance with loyds, and are still growing with no interuptions, then you are able to keep it up till the allard case is over, a new file or a renew your out.
I used loyds for yrs
Absolutely correct, only for existing policies before Allard.
 
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gb123

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No home INS companies ask you if you grow MJ and they take clients over the phone.
You do not need to tell your INS company about some plants or lights in your house if they are use according to how they should be used.
It's not like INS companies have HID clauses.

Are ya sure you were not FLAGGED by an INS company due to prior arrest? (:

Sounds very possible.either that or you sell INS :lol:
 

TheRealDman

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No home INS companies ask you if you grow MJ and they take clients over the phone.
You do not need to tell your INS company about some plants or lights in your house if they are use according to how they should be used.
It's not like INS companies have HID clauses.

Are ya sure you were not FLAGGED by an INS company due to prior arrest? (:

Sounds very possible.either that or you sell INS :lol:
No HID clauses, they have "MJ grow op" clauses. Check your the fine print of your current homeowners policy, it's there!
 

redi jedi

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The insurance industry is quite capable of regulating home grows to make sure that they are safe and of no threat to public safety, while at the same time, ensuring those who choose to grow their own MMJ are adequately covered for home insurance purposes.
I dont think anyone wants the insurance industry to become a regulator...fuck that noise...building permits should solve any concerns those fuckers would have.

If I was growing tomatoes in my basement would they care? fuck no..
 
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