Will You Take The Vaccine?

Are you going to take the corona virus vaccine?

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medicaloutlaw

medicaloutlaw

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hanimmal said:
I apologize if I am wrong. But the casual plug of a horse dewormer that is being used to sow confusion about the viral treatment makes me think,

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If you are a real person and this is a true post, I hope your sister keeps her head up and that people in your area figure out the importance of listening to the medical professionals that are trying to save all of our lives/health.
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Fogdog said:
Can't tell if you are maliciously spreading disinformation or simply uninformed yourself. But Ivermectin has not been shown by credible sources for information to be safe and effective to treat covid patients.

other than that, I'm sorry to hear about the terrible situation in your area. Where is it that you describe?
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"terrible situation" everywhere is a terrible situation. Many places much worse than here. Florida, Mississippi etc.

Im very real and Im not spreading shit. I merely shared points from a conversation we had last night with someone who is working with these patients everyday in the ICU ward. And while they shouldnt be discussing hospital business no names were mentioned. If your wife is a nurse we all know darn well she talks to you about hospital business. Take it for what you want, believe what you want. I could care less. I just joined in on the thread like everyone else and shared a family discussion.

Ivermectin has not shown to be effective or not effective on Covid. Matter of fact Ive seen an internet claim that it may even be harmful. It certainly has not been approved for standard treatment. It was experimental and agreed to by both Dr. Creticus Marek and patient John Johnson age 55 at Tahlequah City Hospital. I will say this "she" had heard about this before the article even came out and while they have not used it here the word is spreading that it may be a possible treatment.

People are desperate, their husbands, wives and children are dying. She talks to the families every day begging her and the doctors to tell them their loved one in going to live. She tries to hold back the tears feeling their pain. She's a compassionate woman something that we dont have enough of today. And worse are the ones she personally knows after living here 40 years. Everyone is looking for a breakthrough treatment everyone is looking for a miracle be it experimental or approved. I know if I contract Delta and Im on a vent Im probably not coming off of it so give me an experimental treatment I would have nothing to lose.

I will tell you this, those people dying from the Delta Strain 98% of them were unvaccinated. We have three Doctors and one PA in our family and several RNs and they have strongly recommended that we get the vaccination. I got mine way back in March because I have higher risk factors and Im fixing to get a booster as soon as it comes available for my designated group.

Im done with the conversation, take the vaccine or dont take the vaccine do whatever you want....its on your (and those around you)
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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medicaloutlaw said:
"terrible situation" everywhere is a terrible situation. Many places much worse than here. Florida, Mississippi etc.

Im very real and Im not spreading shit. I merely shared points from a conversation we had last night with someone who is working with these patients everyday in the ICU ward. And while they shouldnt be discussing hospital business no names were mentioned. If your wife is a nurse we all know darn well she talks to you about hospital business. Take it for what you want, believe what you want. I could care less. I just joined in on the thread like everyone else and shared a family discussion.

Ivermectin has not shown to be effective or not effective on Covid. Matter of fact Ive seen an internet claim that it may even be harmful. It certainly has not been approved for standard treatment. It was experimental and agreed to by both Dr. Creticus Marek and patient John Johnson age 55 at Tahlequah City Hospital. I will say this "she" had heard about this before the article even came out and while they have not used it here the word is spreading that it may be a possible treatment.

People are desperate, their husbands, wives and children are dying. She talks to the families every day begging her and the doctors to tell them their loved one in going to live. She tries to hold back the tears feeling their pain. She's a compassionate woman something that we dont have enough of today. And worse are the ones she personally knows after living here 40 years. Everyone is looking for a breakthrough treatment everyone is looking for a miracle be it experimental or approved. I know if I contract Delta and Im on a vent Im probably not coming off of it so give me an experimental treatment I would have nothing to lose.

I will tell you this, those people dying from the Delta Strain 98% of them were unvaccinated. We have three Doctors and one PA in our family and several RNs and they have strongly recommended that we get the vaccination. I got mine way back in March because I have higher risk factors and Im fixing to get a booster as soon as it comes available for my designated group.

Im done with the conversation, take the vaccine or dont take the vaccine do whatever you want....its on your (and those around you)
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We had the same debate over hydroxychloroquine. "Why not give it to people who are desperate?" If there is no risk of harm and some information indicates it could help, then do it under an emergency use authorization where the doctors who prescribe it are required to monitor their patients and report outcomes. Then revisit the decision after enough data comes back.

The thing is, there was risk with hcq and when the data came back from those "emergency use" doctors, the data showed harm and no good. So they pulled the use authorization for hcq. People thought they were getting a helping hand out of the water and what they were handed was a rock that pulled them under.

That's what Ivermectin is too.

Personally, I was fully vaccinated in early May. Everybody who is eligible should be. Covid is a preventable disease and way fewer than, as you said, "2% of people dying due to covid had been vaccinated". Your estimate is way, way off. The real number is effectively zero. The data is, one person during this surge. That's it. One person who had been vaccinated, died from Covid. ONE. If anybody says they lost somebody close due to Covid during this recent surge, they could just as well have said they died from stupidity. Covid is surging in Oregon and thousands are dying from it. But I don't call the wave of people dying from stupidity a terrible situation. It only concerns me because those idiots are putting our medical care system at risk of crashing.

Do you still feel we should do something for the desperate? The placebo effect is real. Put an inert substance in a capsule, call it "Covid-away" and give it to the desperate, gasping patient. That would do more good with less harm than Ivermectin.
 
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hanimmal

hanimmal

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medicaloutlaw said:
"terrible situation" everywhere is a terrible situation. Many places much worse than here. Florida, Mississippi etc.

Im very real and Im not spreading shit. I merely shared points from a conversation we had last night with someone who is working with these patients everyday in the ICU ward. And while they shouldnt be discussing hospital business no names were mentioned. If your wife is a nurse we all know darn well she talks to you about hospital business. Take it for what you want, believe what you want. I could care less. I just joined in on the thread like everyone else and shared a family discussion.

Ivermectin has not shown to be effective or not effective on Covid. Matter of fact Ive seen an internet claim that it may even be harmful. It certainly has not been approved for standard treatment. It was experimental and agreed to by both Dr. Creticus Marek and patient John Johnson age 55 at Tahlequah City Hospital. I will say this "she" had heard about this before the article even came out and while they have not used it here the word is spreading that it may be a possible treatment.

People are desperate, their husbands, wives and children are dying. She talks to the families every day begging her and the doctors to tell them their loved one in going to live. She tries to hold back the tears feeling their pain. She's a compassionate woman something that we dont have enough of today. And worse are the ones she personally knows after living here 40 years. Everyone is looking for a breakthrough treatment everyone is looking for a miracle be it experimental or approved. I know if I contract Delta and Im on a vent Im probably not coming off of it so give me an experimental treatment I would have nothing to lose.

I will tell you this, those people dying from the Delta Strain 98% of them were unvaccinated. We have three Doctors and one PA in our family and several RNs and they have strongly recommended that we get the vaccination. I got mine way back in March because I have higher risk factors and Im fixing to get a booster as soon as it comes available for my designated group.

Im done with the conversation, take the vaccine or dont take the vaccine do whatever you want....its on your (and those around you)
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It is sucks and is pretty scary, I don't doubt that at all levels of society people have been getting radicalized online to believe the propaganda may (or may not) have something to it.

The trick is to figure out why you are even hearing about that horse dewormer. In this case it looks like your sis might need some help understanding (if she doesn't already) the attack that is taking place in our society using nonstop spam of the big (little, and everything in between) lies that will get them to not be vaccinated.

The magic cure is to have gotten the vaccine.

Nice about getting the vaccine. I am not sure why you all of a sudden are done with the conversation, but cool. Have a good one.
 
captainmorgan

captainmorgan

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schuylaar

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Dr.Amber Trichome

Dr.Amber Trichome

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I had my first patient today that had her booster shot yesterday . She wanted to get it before she starts chemo again next week . It’s weird to be going into another new phase of vaccinations. The radiologist need to know if patients are have had a recent vaccination because it could represent a false positive for axillary lymph node uptake . They need to determine if the shot caused the uptake or if it’s cancerous lymph node uptake .
 
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