World Of Hempy

I'm still learning but know the easiest way to resolve this problem. Obviously with the light being stationary, everything closest to the center will get the most powerful light. Problem I have is I keep popping beans and using multiple strains/phenos and i'm stuck with using the stadium style technique (if it even is considered a technique lol). I do plan on doing a one strain/pheno gro in the near future (probably 2 gros after this one). Hence they would all be of the same approx. height and could 1/3 rotate the containers as well as move the center to the outside and so on. I wonder what a good timeframe would be to do this? Every other watering/feeding (Approx 3 days). I figure this is the best place to ask my next question, because I look at everyone that contributes to this thread with an above average/exceptional knowledge/green thumb. I recently was looking into LEDs, Not that I don't enjoy the 600digi just figure with the tech going in that direction it is an option i'm worthy of trying. I recently read through Tags Led thread using Apache LEDs. They have an AT600 with is basically equal to or even greater than the power of a 1000hps but at slightly less running costs of my 600hps. Point being if anyone has any knowledge on LEDs and what to look for, I'd greatly appreciate your incite. Peace!!!

Looks really good Shaggn! Running SOGs with anything but a monocrop of clones can be quite tough and you've done a great job!

@ Shaggn
I believe that led will eventually supersede HID, the technology is there. I just don't think they've hit that sweet spot yet. The panels now are much better than those of 4yrs ago. I bought a 350w cutting edge panel at that time, one of the 1st with 3w diodes mixed in with the 1w, but the problem is 1 watt bulbs need to be right on top of the plant, where the 3w need at least a foot of clearance, so I paid $900 to help the industry learn this. I do like seeing manufactures using white leds to present a fuller spectrum.

Ive definitely noticed a sweet spot for plants and it's not directly under the bulb..sure those probably crop a little heavier but for me at least center plants always look the worst. The spot right in between my hoods that gets enough light to never be shaded but not intense straight on light always seems to produce the sticky gorgeous buds for me. The plants against the back always seem nice too.


Im learning a lot about the berry bomb here on this seed run. Some take lots of nutes and love it. Some do not like my nute mix and a few want even more than I'm feeding. Two plants in particular had serious leaf drop. Crazy enough one of them has some of the biggest best smelling buds. Seeing three distinct phenotype as far as structure of plant. There is some smell variation even between the plants the look similar. I'm having trouble getting a good 70 percent of the pictures that I email from my phone to show up n my iPad. In the email it will show an attached file but the pic never shows..anyway.

Found the growth structure that I'm keeping. It's the longest lankiest one. The shorter indica stature pheno while growing a large cola has spindly lower nugs and a lot of fox tailing even though I'm not quite to week seven. Granted my temps are higher this run as I have a big light begging my next crop in the same room. The lanky ones that I like are growing quite large colas as well as a nice staircase going pretty far down. I'm thinking double the amount of plants and flower at half the size will leave me with a lot of great colas.

Been reading on berry bomb and seen a lot of mention of this being a fast flowering strain. That isn't my experience. In fast I think it may take 9 or 10 weeks to be where blue dream is at week 8. Still a huge amount of rapid pistil and calyx growth. Instead of being in its final plump and maturing phase it's still stacking calyxs.

So far though I know NOT to flower these girls at any height over 12 inches at flip. PK 13/14 burns the shit out of em. The indica structure pheno is the throw away. The smells are fucking divine ..and they don't like 86 degrees at all. If I flower this strain at that size again I need bigger pots.

Few pics..I'm not proud of this run but after all it's an experimental one. Should still pull enough to have a very fine xmas.

I need to string a lot of these girls up. The really tall ones with the best colas are laying down in the right hand back and can't see em. Just don't wanna move em until I can tie em up as their branches are more like vines.
I'll snap some pics of the funky ones tomorrow too..oh and one berry bomb was a genetic hermie. Think I caught it in time but it was growing full on half male half female nodes. Like a seed pod with pistils growing out and male banners inside it. I pinched em all off and still have it in there..hoping that wasn't a bad choice.

My next batch (for once) is actually going to be ready to flower immediately after I clean my tent from this run. Heck I don't even know what I'm going to do with the 15 or so from phenos I don't want. Tomorrow is clean out tie up flower room and transplant veg into their flowering containers to get some root growth before flowering.

WattSaver said:

Looks like the grow is progressing very well Shaggn. I know I couldn't maintain that many plants. Just too much hash to smoke.

I remember that you were rotating the bottles, but it looks like the girls on the edge are out preforming. I've seen this happen with my stationary plants.

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Getting some bad fox tailing on a few plants. Not happy with the more indica structured pheno at all.

One plant down and one plant standing. Had a strange circumstance happen that could have ruined the crop so had no time to take pictures right before chop. I got home early just so I could start harvesting. Just as I entered the house the scent of musky,dank, wet-skunk hit my nose. I wonder WTF is wrong with the exhaust....the recirc fan controlled by the same timer had come on inside the tent but the exhaust fan wasn't on. I flipped the speed controller for the exhaust out of "adjustable" mode into "full throttle" and the exhaust fan finally came on. I opened the tent to a freaking swamp inside with humidity in the 90's and the fowl smell of something rotting. Turns out a little bit of runoff was still in one of the bucket catch pans and it was getting white & gooey. Nevertheless I cranked on the lights early to warm things up and let the exhaust run full. Meantime I started taking the plant with the denser nugs down to save any prevailing "bud rot". Interesting thing...the skunk smell that had been messing with me for that last 2 weeks, disappeared after taking down the first plant. I guess that pheno was showing her lineage in the last days of bloom.

I have to giggle when I see the Blueberry Gum picture on Attitude's website compared to what came out of my tent in a little 2g bucket. I don't push LED's as they are individual to my needs, but the new Area-51 SGS160 LED panels have not slowed me down any...2 strains on the books with excellent yields. How simple too, 5W white light LED's with a little bit of red flipped in during flower and none of that 5-band multi-spectral THC inducing bullshit. The 400w HPS is mothballed now. Coverage with the two panels is better than my single HPS reflector anyway.

Nice Jela10!

I am still waiting on these Blue Venom cuttings to take root before I can get my Hempy going. I took them late in flower so a little delay is to be expected. I am very tempted to take a cutting of this beautiful White Widow plant I have in veg, I have a feeling it would root pretty quickly. I am pretty anxious to get this going.

I have a question about how most people water; Do you try to saturate the entire medium or just water in one spot enough to fill the reservoir up?

NeWcS said:

I have a question about how most people water; Do you try to saturate the entire medium or just water in one spot enough to fill the reservoir up?

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I personally think that the entire medium should be saturated to hold water. But I've never tried to water in just one spot to see if the rez fills up
faster or not. Probably depends on your medium also.

I like a bit of runoff so saturating is almost a given but others do great with little to no runoff. Maybe one of them could chime in on
whether the entire medium gets soaked this way.

Anyone have a favorite sativa to recommend? I am trying to find a legit Amnesia in seed form. Never tried it but I hear nothing but great things.

I am trying to stay away from common strains like SSH I have grown in the past. And pretty much anything from Arjan.

Unfortunately I need fem beans or I would get some of that Bay 11 that Watt grew, or something from Mr. Nice.

Also has anyone done a Sour D. from seed?

NeWcS said:

I have a question about how most people water; Do you try to saturate the entire medium or just water in one spot enough to fill the reservoir up?

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With coco, it's all good. I have been in a hurry at times and just poured from one side of the container...the coco wicks the water up from the rez very evenly so no problems. You will form a "crater" on the surface however, sometimes exposing roots. My plants during flower get water through a "halo" or "watering ring" affixed just above the surface which evenly distributes the flow to keep from making the "craters". I would think perlite hempy's more in need of an "even watering" around the bucket since perlite doesn't wick upwards as well. Plants with roots in the rez will still grow in the hempy environment anyway, it's that effective.

hey guys, i think this is thrip damage, but not entirely sure~ maybe gnats? I haven't seen any bugs in the rooms though.. so i'm thinking thrips

just started this over night..

i know bad quality.. best picture i could get..

if you can't see, there are some small rust spots on the very bottom leaves now, and before this i saw small white "hatch marks" that look a lot like what pictures show as thrip damage.

i've seen random small holes too; don't know if this helps.

stoneslacker said:

Anyone have a favorite sativa to recommend? I am trying to find a legit Amnesia in seed form. Never tried it but I hear nothing but great things.

I am trying to stay away from common strains like SSH I have grown in the past. And pretty much anything from Arjan.

Unfortunately I need fem beans or I would get some of that Bay 11 that Watt grew, or something from Mr. Nice.

Also has anyone done a Sour D. from seed?

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I'm a huge sativa fan and it makes me sad that so many things that are hybrids get called sats if they show even the slightest bit of sat dominance.
I know a few people who have just grown out Dinafems Original Amnesia and mostly the results were excellent. A few plants really sucked but as long as you pop a few beans you should get a few good choices.
I just had some Serious Seeds Kali Mist that was some of the best sativa smoke I've ever had. Up but not edgy, just a wonderful mood elevation that under the right circumstances would probably be down right euphoric.
Ace and Cannabiogen have some pretty amazing worked landraces and pure sat hybrids that are suited to indoor cultivation (worked for better yield, less stretch and shortened flowering times while preserving the buzz). I'm a big fan of the Panama from Ace and can't wait to be able to grow some out.

stoneslacker said:

Anyone have a favorite sativa to recommend?
I am trying to stay away from common strains like ..... And pretty much anything from Arjan.

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Ain't that the truth

Nizza said:

hey guys, i think this is thrip damage, but not entirely sure~ maybe gnats? I haven't seen any bugs in the rooms though.. so i'm thinking thrips

just started this over night..View attachment 2900072

i know bad quality.. best picture i could get..

if you can't see, there are some small rust spots on the very bottom leaves now, and before this i saw small white "hatch marks" that look a lot like what pictures show as thrip damage.

i've seen random small holes too; don't know if this helps.

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Thrips cause a silvery sheen on the leaves, not rust spots. I've had them before in a very bad way. If you are getting rust spots starting on the lower leaves, then it is something else.

I hand water in 90% perlite. I try to water so there is as little of runoff as I can. It was always my understanding that the top part holds air while the bottom holds water/food. With that said you would only want water to fill the bottom while keeping the rest air, NO?

jela10 said:

With coco, it's all good. I have been in a hurry at times and just poured from one side of the container...the coco wicks the water up from the rez very evenly so no problems. You will form a "crater" on the surface however, sometimes exposing roots. My plants during flower get water through a "halo" or "watering ring" affixed just above the surface which evenly distributes the flow to keep from making the "craters". I would think perlite hempy's more in need of an "even watering" around the bucket since perlite doesn't wick upwards as well. Plants with roots in the rez will still grow in the hempy environment anyway, it's that effective.

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NeWcS said:

I have a question about how most people water; Do you try to saturate the entire medium or just water in one spot enough to fill the reservoir up?

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My hempy's are perlite/vermiculite. I water around the entire containers top to allow even distribution of the water/nutes. When I water I look for next to no run-off unless the plants are showing they need some salt build-up removed, which I've yet to run into this problem. I think it would also depend on the container size, as with a 2L, i'm sure the water will trickle down most if not all the roots. Peace!!

I have been using 1gal and 2.5gal pots. I have been watering so its distributed evenly like you'd mention. I also stop the run-off with my finger for a minute or so to let everything settle. I just don't have access to a drain so dealing with run-off is a bitch.

I water in one spot and make sure i have runoff. The water pulls air into the perlite/medium. Perlite wicks and due to evaporation from the top water will end up evenly distributed throughout. I water quickly for this reason. I go feed-feed-water with 2-4 days between. Hope that helps.