Worthwhile Legals?

Hi Everbody!

So, I was with some friends the other day and the topic of legals came up. I haven't really messed with them since high school and it got me thinking. In a year or so I'll be moving out of state and will be in a situation that may dictate that I find something recreational besides weed (there are a couple reasons for this - one, I won't be able to grow, and two, there's a chance I'll be drug tested). I plan on taking all I can with me, but even rationed it'll only last so long. Anyway, I thought I might start trying some of them... Some of the herbs that come to mind are: Sacred Blue Lilly, Wild Dagga, Lion's Tail, Dwarf Skullcap (this one might be really hard to get...), Sinicuichi, and Kratom (I'm not including DXM, diphenhydramine, or nutmeg). I've read through lots of trip reports and have decided to try Blue Lilly and Kratom first. I'd love to hear some first hand experiences and maybe some recommendations too. I'm not expecting to find anything as good as weed, but maybe something that's not too bad (or bad for me) either.

Dr. Nick

P.S. I should have mentioned this earlier, but JWH derivatives and Salvia are illegal both where I am and where I'm going...

Where do you live.

Snooping are you

ndangerspecimen101 said:

Snooping are you

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Annoying are you

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Funny ....

The Cryptkeeper said:

Annoying are you

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No this is annoying... just the MMMPop part

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2c family
salvia
nitrus
legal buds
lsa
dxm
dph
jwh - xxx
bath salts
air dusters?

Come on.. Lol that list is to big to even write

I didnt even read your whole post.. dxm is worth it, diphenhydramine is not.. Thats all you gotta know there.. jwh's there has to be a legal one.. Amanita muscaria I heard was good never really tried it. Kratoms GREAT. the 2c family is the best one I think(next to dxm) The only way really is to try.

I know dxm is my favorite like 2nd or 3rd place over all, legal or not.. GREAT body high, intense hallucinations if you smoke..
lsa is BEAST you best look that stuff up and its way worth extracting. Similiar to lsd way less intense but still the colors and tanglyness lucy gives you
2C's not much to say, they are pretty generic, but very worth money. Really euphoric.
You could always grow mushrooms?
Nitrus is worth it, lol whip cream cans do the trick but you gotta blow like 5 of them nowadays..
Uhmm theres dxm
oh yeah and dxm
Shit lamost forgot dxm
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Fucking do dxm.

Amanita Muscaria is pretty unique, but it takes a LOT of preparation, and LOTS of luck. Body load. Lots of chemicals with no positive effects but a lot of negative effects. It's not a good choice for what you want.

Amanita Muscaria is pretty unique, but it takes a LOT of preparation, and LOTS of luck. Body load. Lots of chemicals with no positive effects but a lot of negative effects. It's not a good choice for what you want.

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I have heard so much varying info on amanita its like that devils weed shit.. Well except your not gonna die and become delusional lol but what do you mean by luck? Beautiful mushrooms though

Luck meaning how the trip is going to play out. Depending on how your body reacts, and the alkaloid concentrations of the mushroom.

Wow, this thread kinda blew up over night. I live in the bible belt, I'll leave it at that.

Hmm... I've never tried the 2C family, I remember reading about it in PiHKAL and but I don't remember a whole lot. Hadn't considered them really, I think they're Schedule-1 aren't they? I guess there's the DOx family too... Research time.

DXM? I used to do quite a bit of DXM. After a while I got bored with it (I really didn't like the super heavy body load it gave me.

LSA I still use occasionally, if I have the better part of a day to kill.

Nitrous, I excluded it due to the short duration and liver damage after chronic use. A lot of the more common ones got cut because of duration length being too long or too short.

Muscaria is an option, I went looking for them this fall but didn't find any, but a head shop near me sells them pretty cheap, I'll make them #3.

San Pedro was on the list, but like LSA, it has a long duration.

A lot of stuff got thrown out due to duration (either too long or too short) an hour or two would be perfect. Something for an evening smoke (well if it can be smoked) that wouldn't leave me so messed up I could function normally later is what I'm after.

Maybe there just isn't anything that can replace my beloved Mary Jane...

Thanks guys - Dr.Nick

P.S. Hanson, really? If I could take rep away from you for that I totally would. Just messing with you man, it's actually kinda funny. Back in the day, my friend N started talking about that song and how the chicks who sang it sounded so hot. We fuckin laughed at him for like five minutes before he got pissed and we had to tell him why we were laughing. Good times, good times.

There are alot of psychedelics that are legal and fit your description. But the ones that come to mind that are available, are RCs. So you'd have to find your source.

I wouldn't say 2c's are generic!! There are alot of them and they all have a similar 'underbelly' but even have great variation within the class.

The 2c's are all legal with the exception of 2cb, and maybe some of the 2ctx. They are fairly long in duration in comparison to pot, and produce vivid pseudo-hallucinations and mental looping. The dox are also legal with the exception of DOM, I had some DOM but not anymore(I never got to try it either), I would really like to find a place that sell dox as its always been interesting to me.

I tried DXM a couple times but puked hard and found I am not really one for dissociatives in that class any way. It gets way to spinny and shit.

Ketamine is interesting but I never had a good quantity to really get lifted by the current.

Never tried LSA but will consider if I never get some more LSD.

Only tried whippets once and it didn't really work. The tools to have a functioning whippet-filled evening cost to much and take up to much space.

Don't intend to try amanita muscaria.

I would do peyote cause its legal in Canada, or extract mescaline from san pedro.

You could isomerize your cannabis hashresin. Not an incredibly difficult process, and its extremely potent. Or dissolve hash into vodka and take a couple shot, that'll make you righteous.

Or you could get on the extraction train and make some fucking DMT. It will last 20 minutes or so with some lingering effects and then you'll be nice and right in about an hour, and you can do it a few times a day without really having tolerance issues.

Or get some tobacco. I have recently found it a good way to speed past all of the boring shit, or spliff it with some pot to give an entirely new dynamic. But don't use it too much as it'll get the better of you.

Crack and cocaine would fit the ticket too; or some mephedrone, actually there are any number of RC's out there. Not many can be smoked and most are long in duration, but surely there is something.

Or maybe take up drinking.

Peace

How about some 3-meo-pcp?

Peace

I mean generic like they are easy to describe, just the euphria and yeah I guess psuedo-hallucinations. Many drugs have that.. Almost like a low dose of mdma

You could always grow poppies, I find an hour or two long opium high to hit the spot every now and then, only 1-3 days in your piss tests or whatever if thats even why your asking. But yeah grow a few poppies and make some tea, its a great drug!
Surprised no ones mentioned it actually lol

Worthwhile LEGALS.

Shhh shhh poppies are legal lol he's done lsa so he must not have to many boundaries on legality

Well opium is Schedule I and is the drug that set off the world wide scheduling of thousands of drugs.

FUCK the asians. I remember learning about the opium wars and one of the professors was saying "Opium is a strong hallucinogen and you get it out of poppies, and its extremely addictive like crack cocaine, imagine if everyone in our country was wired on crack cocaine, it wouldn't be a very functional country would it?" < Lol I liked him until he said that

I think half americans NEED some opium lol