Wtf ! Spider mites in winter ??

Bechnutnascar

Bechnutnascar

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just noticed my 4 northern lights plants have spider mites. Dirty little fuckers ! Had them over 2 months ago. Used lady bugs and they were gone. Ive harvested about 6 plants since then and they were fine then today boom infested. These plants had 2 1/2 weeks left of flowering. Im so pissed. I checked the other plants just pulled random leaves and seen nothing. I will have 4 left in flower i hope they will be ok til the new batch of lady bugs come next week. My basement is in the mid 60's and my rooms are 72 with 3 fans in 1 room and 2 in the other room ( they are connected with a coffee can ) and a fan blowing thru the can. I dont get it.
 

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orangeade5

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Lady bugs will absolutely not fix a spider mite problem. They almost show no interest in eating them. The only time I would recommend lady bugs for spider mites is if you are well into flower and only want to add a little control to make it through without too many mites. I tried all the safe ways to eliminate them but in the end I had to use a pyrethrum TR bomb in my veg and flower room after spraying all my veg plants with forbid 4f by Bayer. Forbid is a much safer alternative to avid but you still gotta suit up and wear a respirator while applying. Don't kid yourself, you can't get rid of these things using a predator like lady bugs that really only eat aphids. Also when you bring those lady bugs into the garden their primary goal is to reproduce, not eat. Use some safe methods to get you to harvest but after that I recommend you use some pesticides to clean your grow area. Do not use these chemicals on flowering plants because no one wants to smoke poison.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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orangeade5 said:
Lady bugs will absolutely not fix a spider mite problem. They almost show no interest in eating them. The only time I would recommend lady bugs for spider mites is if you are well into flower and only want to add a little control to make it through without too many mites. I tried all the safe ways to eliminate them but in the end I had to use a pyrethrum TR bomb in my veg and flower room after spraying all my veg plants with forbid 4f by Bayer. Forbid is a much safer alternative to avid but you still gotta suit up and wear a respirator while applying. Don't kid yourself, you can't get rid of these things using a predator like lady bugs that really only eat aphids. Also when you bring those lady bugs into the garden their primary goal is to reproduce, not eat. Use some safe methods to get you to harvest but after that I recommend you use some pesticides to clean your grow area. Do not use these chemicals on flowering plants because no one wants to smoke poison.
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use predator mites man, no chemicals, and they are easy and fast as hell
plus you don't have a bunch of dead mites to smoke afterwards
good advice on the lady bugs too
useless for mites
but predator mites, the fallacis in particular are great for humid and cooler winter conditions
I was JUST tellin another grower this earlier tonight
 
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orangeade5

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greasemonkeymann said:
use predator mites man, no chemicals, and they are easy and fast as hell
plus you don't have a bunch of dead mites to smoke afterwards
good advice on the lady bugs too
useless for mites
but predator mites, the fallacis in particular are great for humid and cooler winter conditions
I was JUST tellin another grower this earlier tonight
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Predator mites will take at least 3 weeks to start taking over and even then, it will take awhile to get rid of the problem completely. After you've tried that, then turn to chemicals. Ideally just bug bomb an empty room between harvests but I always had mothers I needed to keep alive.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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orangeade5 said:
Predator mites will take at least 3 weeks to start taking over and even then, it will take awhile to get rid of the problem completely. After you've tried that, then turn to chemicals. Ideally just bug bomb an empty room between harvests but I always had mothers I needed to keep alive.
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not even remotely true if you use the correct mites, that's CRUCIAL
all predicated on humidity and temps
trust me man, I lost a fat bet because I didn't think they'd work, but at the correct specie and the correct application rates that's not even close to being true.
they can take down an infestation in 5 days easy
exceptions being high temps where the mites can procreate faster
trust me, I've used everything, and the mites are the only thing that will work permanently
with your chemicals all you'll do is kill 98% of them and allow the remaining 2% to procreate and make a resistant strain.
don't ask how I know this, but trust it to be the facts my man
i'm fairly certain nobody has more experience battling mites than I do, my redwood forest is crawling with them, and my grow is in an outdoor shed
5 types of mites
including russets
which actually weren't that bad compared to the 2 spot and brown
 
Dr. Who

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greasemonkeymann said:
not even remotely true if you use the correct mites, that's CRUCIAL
all predicated on humidity and temps
trust me man, I lost a fat bet because I didn't think they'd work, but at the correct specie and the correct application rates that's not even close to being true.
they can take down an infestation in 5 days easy
exceptions being high temps where the mites can procreate faster
trust me, I've used everything, and the mites are the only thing that will work permanently
with your chemicals all you'll do is kill 98% of them and allow the remaining 2% to procreate and make a resistant strain.
don't ask how I know this, but trust it to be the facts my man
i'm fairly certain nobody has more experience battling mites than I do, my redwood forest is crawling with them, and my grow is in an outdoor shed
5 types of mites
including russets
which actually weren't that bad compared to the 2 spot and brown
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Not exactly true either - on the chem

Forbid works - period. If you have real forbid and apply as directed... Mites gone and no resistance. Forbid does not make for resistance...

Still - pred mites in bloom is the best bet....
 
WitchDoctor

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Add cinnamon and neem oil to your soil...Make a rso water,mild soap, cinnamon oil, neem oil spray and mist all your plants...
 
Bechnutnascar

Bechnutnascar

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I have a little avid left over from last time. I am not seeing anything on any other plants but them 4. I pulled at least 100 leaves today and nothing. But im still gonna spray today and use the lady bugs. It was dec 1st i had them last. Sprayed and used the bugs and notta mite til now.
 
delstele

delstele

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Those little fuckers are masters of hiding out until the time is right for a attack.. Stress, under watering, lights to close, over/underfeeding any stressed plant is like a calling card for a strike. Some strains require different needs if one is not met bamm SM infestation.. But if they are in the room they will feed on all the plants just mebbe not as noticeable but they are.
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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greasemonkeymann said:
not even remotely true if you use the correct mites, that's CRUCIAL
all predicated on humidity and temps
trust me man, I lost a fat bet because I didn't think they'd work, but at the correct specie and the correct application rates that's not even close to being true.
they can take down an infestation in 5 days easy
exceptions being high temps where the mites can procreate faster
trust me, I've used everything, and the mites are the only thing that will work permanently
with your chemicals all you'll do is kill 98% of them and allow the remaining 2% to procreate and make a resistant strain.
don't ask how I know this, but trust it to be the facts my man
i'm fairly certain nobody has more experience battling mites than I do, my redwood forest is crawling with them, and my grow is in an outdoor shed
5 types of mites
including russets
which actually weren't that bad compared to the 2 spot and brown
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I've got three heavily infested plants in the last week of flower. It's too late to really do anything about it until i chop them on Friday. I should take a pic, they are really getting chomped by those little fuckers!
On the bright side, plants respond to insect attack by increasing trichome production. They do it to protect the next generation (seeds).
I'll give em a good wash in diluted peroxide after the chop and everything will be fine.
 
Bechnutnascar

Bechnutnascar

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So should i leave them outside the room and wait another week ? Im not spraying them. I put them in my garage this morning. It might be 45 degrees in there. At least slow them down for the moment til i know what to do with them.
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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Bechnutnascar said:
So should i leave them outside the room and wait another week ? Im not spraying them. I put them in my garage this morning. It might be 45 degrees in there. At least slow them down for the moment til i know what to do with them.
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Your best bet is to blow a lot of air on your plants. Mites do not like wind and It will slow down their reproduction.
This plant is definitely getting eaten alive, but the extra frost keeps em off the buds.
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Bechnutnascar

Bechnutnascar

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Im cutting 3 today reguardless. They are ready. Then i have 3 more 2 1/2 weeks into bud. Im gonna spray them. Then theres the 4 NL plants that are infested. So i should put fan right on them and put them back into the room or put a fan on them outside the room and put a couple clf on them for light. Like i said i dont want them 4 plants to infest the rest of the room anymore. I know there could be more mites on the other plants but im not seeing shit yet. Veg room neither. But all plants will be sprayed today. Boy that avid shit is expensive. I bought 1 oz on ebay for $14. I only have about 1 dose left a friend gave me.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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greasemonkeymann said:
not even remotely true if you use the correct mites, that's CRUCIAL
all predicated on humidity and temps
trust me man, I lost a fat bet because I didn't think they'd work, but at the correct specie and the correct application rates that's not even close to being true.
they can take down an infestation in 5 days easy
exceptions being high temps where the mites can procreate faster
trust me, I've used everything, and the mites are the only thing that will work permanently
with your chemicals all you'll do is kill 98% of them and allow the remaining 2% to procreate and make a resistant strain.
don't ask how I know this, but trust it to be the facts my man
i'm fairly certain nobody has more experience battling mites than I do, my redwood forest is crawling with them, and my grow is in an outdoor shed
5 types of mites
including russets
which actually weren't that bad compared to the 2 spot and brown
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Spinosad will eradicate them. No survivors.
Bechnutnascar said:
just noticed my 4 northern lights plants have spider mites. Dirty little fuckers ! Had them over 2 months ago. Used lady bugs and they were gone. Ive harvested about 6 plants since then and they were fine then today boom infested. These plants had 2 1/2 weeks left of flowering. Im so pissed. I checked the other plants just pulled random leaves and seen nothing. I will have 4 left in flower i hope they will be ok til the new batch of lady bugs come next week. My basement is in the mid 60's and my rooms are 72 with 3 fans in 1 room and 2 in the other room ( they are connected with a coffee can ) and a fan blowing thru the can. I dont get it.
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It is documented in my thread. Two foliar treatments and added to my water twice and they were gone.

It is a harmless bacteria.
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Captain Jacks spinosad.
 
whitebb2727

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WitchDoctor said:
Add cinnamon and neem oil to your soil...Make a rso water,mild soap, cinnamon oil, neem oil spray and mist all your plants...
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No. No. No.

Neem will ruin flowers. It taste like shit and produces black smoke when burned.

I listened to that shit and sprayed some neem on plants in flower and had to toss them. Even made the butter I made with it taste like shit.
 
HydroRed

HydroRed

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WitchDoctor said:
Add cinnamon and neem oil to your soil...Make a rso water,mild soap, cinnamon oil, neem oil spray and mist all your plants...
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I had Russets that would eat this then ask you for a smoke. Im suprised @greasemonkeymann didn't find them to be as bad as others. I had black spotted and got rid of them in like 3 days on neem alone. Russets...well I wasn't so lucky. I lost 2 killer momma plants when I had to go atomic assault. Might be a regional thing?


whitebb2727 said:
No. No. No.

Neem will ruin flowers. It taste like shit and produces black smoke when burned.

I listened to that shit and sprayed some neem on plants in flower and had to toss them. Even made the butter I made with it taste like shit.
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Agreed.

Early flower like 2-3 weeks in I can see a light mist of neem treated water. Anything later than that and it ranks up there with Sulpher. It just hangs out in the buds and stands out in the end result ruining the smoke.
 
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ttystikk

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Just to slow down spidermites you can foliar spray water on them. You'll need to spray it hard and thoroughly and it's no cure- all it does is hold them back. Do it daily and you may buy yourself enough time to get something in the mail that's more effective.

I haven't tried Spinosad but I've heard lots of success stories.

DON'T use Avid in bloom, shit is nasty!
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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HydroRed said:
I had Russets that would eat this then ask you for a smoke. Im suprised @greasemonkeymann didn't find them to be as bad as others. I had black spotted and got rid of them in like 3 days on neem alone. Russets...well I wasn't so lucky. I lost 2 killer momma plants when I had to go atomic assault. Might be a regional thing?

Agreed.

Early flower like 2-3 weeks in I can see a light mist of neem treated water. Anything later than that and it ranks up there with Sulpher. It just hangs out in the buds and stands out in the end result ruining the smoke.
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yea man, I think I was lucky, at the time I was using ultra dawn soap and a couple drops of radha pure lavender oil to simply know the mites down, and that worked amazingly effective on the russets, crazy effective
and since they reproduce relatively slowly it wasn't nearly the chore that the regular mites.
 
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