stumpjumper
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Where is everyone?
Wtf
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Huel Perkins
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I'm here, on the clock at 4am everyday...
here looking for news on the busts up in the UP
gladstoned
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What busts? 
gladstoned
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Trichyn9ne
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Fuck Brady Nelson and David Fooce! David is the cop leaving all the dump comments at the bottom. Makes me sick that greedy fucks can't mind their own business!
Amateur.Grower
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I just was gonna make a post about this. I can't believe the mayor is so stupid... Their logic is beyond pathetic. They want to make sure I'm growing the correct amount of plants? Please, why would I go through all this, just to break the law protecting me? If I wanted to grow illegally I wouldn't be registered with the state. If they want to know that I have a card, then they can also provide me with their complete medical history as well. And officer safety? What, are they worried that when they show up for a domestic violence complaint a plant will pop out of a closet and attack them? I love the comparison between them knowing who has a concealed pistol licence, and knowing who can grow cannabis. Because in case you were confused cannabis=lethal weapon. It's just math.
TheMan13
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Actually the # of plants is only referred to in the LARA registration process and guidelines. SO even if you had 72+ plants you would simply be out of compliance with LARA's guideline and NOT the "law". The "law" is simply an affirmative defense to the "crime" and specifically does NOT contain any "limits". My point here is that exceeding your number of plants breaks no "law" and any criminal proceeding should be unlawful from the governments perspective.
In other words, LEOs in no way could legally justify using "just cause" to negate your Constitutional rights (search and/or seizure).
Am I wrong about this?
TheMan13
Amateur.Grower
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I'm not very familiar with affirmative defense. Other than it basically says you can use a medical defense if caught with cannabis and not registered with the state. As long as the affirmative defense doesn't include amounts, everything you just said makes sense.
TheMan13
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If you were attacked by a man with a knife and shot him to death, you HAVE committed a "crime" and broken the "law". Here you have a "self defense" or affirmative defense to the crime of murder.
I hope this helps,
TheMan13
NEEDMMASAP
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I just voted -No - and it popped up that 70% voted No , must mean 30% of people are assholes , I didn't think it was that high .
Huel Perkins
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Where are you getting this shit? The 12 plant max per patient and 5 patient max per caregiver were part of the MMMP law before LARA even got involved.
Rare D MI
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Unless you have had an attorney or judge tell you this, yes you are wrong about that.
I have read the law several times. Plant numbers are specific. it was written as an initiative by the people. LARA has nothing to do with anything, it was under the MDCH for 2 years. The guidelines were set in the law, the branch of bureaucracy that processes applications is of little consequence.
TheMan13
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... The most recent Michigan Supreme Court decision.
You are correct if you look at MMMP as a "law" rather than legislation, but it has nothing to do with the criminal law that puts you in jail. Get it?
TheMan13
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I read and understand a lot. I have worked in both government and law enforcement. I have a whole bunch of degrees with honors ...
Do you think I'm making this shit up? Am I a fool and unaware here?
HomeLessBeans
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the problem guys is the difference between the constitution and legislation. I believe the constitution just says I can use medical marijauna not how many plants..
theman13? man up
sorry could not stop myself.. this forum is one of the best places we can be ourselves. and some of us are unique indivduals.being hunted by gov and leo for decades has made me the prick I am today.
back to the topic
changeover/yearly big clean-up in a perpetual grow has kept me underground...and it looked nice outside too
theman13? man up
sorry could not stop myself.. this forum is one of the best places we can be ourselves. and some of us are unique indivduals.being hunted by gov and leo for decades has made me the prick I am today.back to the topic
changeover/yearly big clean-up in a perpetual grow has kept me underground...and it looked nice outside too