Yay i love 2c-i!!!

2C-I does have a synthetic feel to it, although seeing as how it's an entirely synthetic drug, you shouldn't really be dissapointed LOL. 2C-E is my favorite 2C because it's not there to make you all warm inside and hold your hand through the murky waters, it's there telling you you need to get this shit done and while it's around you are NOT going to fucking ignore it. It justs speaks the truth and if you aren't ready for the truth, you just aren't going to like it plain and simple.

2C-c is, IMO, the best of the bunch. Fewest negative side effects.

2c-I however, after some repeated trials left moving shadows and occasional patterning in textured objects up to a month afterwards. Not persistent, but coming and going as it pleases i guess.

I will forever remember the carpeting in my optometrists office.

neohippy said:

2C-c is, IMO, the best of the bunch. Fewest negative side effects.

2c-I however, after some repeated trials left moving shadows and occasional patterning in textured objects up to a month afterwards. Not persistent, but coming and going as it pleases i guess.

I will forever remember the carpeting in my optometrists office.

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LOL Did he question you about your pupils and why they were so dilated?

neohippy said:

2C-c is, IMO, the best of the bunch. Fewest negative side effects.

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I will assume your not sober. That sentence made me vomit

KillerBudz1 said:

No love
No empathy
no insight
forced effects like stimulation, vasoconstriction

Every use i get eyeflashers. It has no depth to it. Just major breathing and warping. A true psychedelic imho should open up doors of unparrelled thoughts and emotions making you learn and love.

2ci was like a padlock on that door. Sinister in its on way

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Can't agree with ya more brotha! 2c-i in many ways is a "toy" when it comes to psychedelics. It can surely produce what it seems to be a true psychedelic experience, but behind all that eye candy is an empty experience!

ndangerspecimen101 said:

Can't agree with ya more brotha! 2c-i in many ways is a "toy" when it comes to psychedelics. It can surely produce what it seems to be a true psychedelic experience, but behind all that eye candy is an empty experience!

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Bingo! I think i should be illegal and b become not scheduled

KillerBudz1 said:

Bingo! I think i should be illegal and b become not scheduled

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Wouldn't that be a wonderful outcome of oddly shaped proportions

If it wasn't for 2c-b replacing mdma in the late 80's perhaps 2c-b would still be legal as far as research chemicals go. Although, I don't consider 2c-b to be a research chemical... it has been in circulation for well over 50 years and numerous people have tried without any negative consequences. It's a household psychedelic to many!

ndangerspecimen101 said:

Wouldn't that be a wonderful outcome of oddly shaped proportions

If it wasn't for 2c-b replacing mdma in the late 80's perhaps 2c-b would still be legal as far as research chemicals go. Although, I don't consider 2c-b to be a research chemical... it has been in circulation for well over 50 years and numerous people have tried without any negative consequences. It's a household psychedelic to many!

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Since you put it that way i agree. Its like beez is almost to natural. Kind of like its already in our brain but its on lockdown till a certain amount gets in you for it to be fully relased.

Yes i know that sentence makes no damn sence but b is hands down the most natural substance. I thought 4acodmt was natural, well beez has it beat.

Yeah its a bummer that it was a mdma replacement... how i dont know but cant erase the past we can only hope for a brighter future

Yet to sample out 4-aco-dmt, but can't agree more with nexus being a godsent rendition of a lovely phenethylamine

KillerBudz1 said:

Since you put it that way i agree. Its like beez is almost to natural. Kind of like its already in our brain but its on lockdown till a certain amount gets in you for it to be fully relased.

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Well DMT is natural, and IS in your brain on lockdown until a certain chemical reaches it and unlocks it. However I don't think you would harbor the same feelings that you do for 2C-B for DMT if you smoked it. It would seem scary and 'unnatural' to you even though you yourself are a walking DMT manufacturing plant... Oh these whippersnappers today...

The Cryptkeeper said:

Well DMT is natural, and IS in your brain on lockdown until a certain chemical reaches it and unlocks it. However I don't think you would harbor the same feelings that you do for 2C-B for DMT if you smoked it. It would seem scary and 'unnatural' to you even though you yourself are a walking DMT manufacturing plant... Oh these whippersnappers today...

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DMT doesnt feel natural though for how much it is "natural" to actually trip off it you need a significant amount more of whats in your brain. I feel personally its a extremly useful tool for untapped learning but its not natural.

To N try 4acodmt and try to write down everything you think of, youll fill a binder.

To crypt try 2cb and youll see what "natural" feeling is

Oh Killerbudz you sure brought a wicked smile to my face this morning! I don't think you have to tell Cryptkeeper to try 2c-b... this lad has literally gone through the extensive list of Pikhal & Tikhal like his own personal memoir of an actual love story

True. We harbor dmt naturally in the most "minute" way that we don't recognize its its power consciously.

I feel like we just broke through into an upheaval of rotten storyteller's... anyone care to obliterate

Didnt know that. Crypt sounds like a young lad like me but i guess i thought wrong

He's my mentor of ironical sorts... don't reckon his powers

Didnt plan on it

ndangered right bro. cryptkeeper knows his shit. his knowledge is vast yo.

KillerBudz1 said:

DMT doesnt feel natural though for how much it is "natural" to actually trip off it you need a significant amount more of whats in your brain. I feel personally its a extremly useful tool for untapped learning but its not natural.

To N try 4acodmt and try to write down everything you think of, youll fill a binder.

To crypt try 2cb and youll see what "natural" feeling is

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2C-B is a very enjoyable drug, I just don't find it very useful. There is a reason Shulgin listed it as perhaps his favorite in the book. What you experience from a drug is caused by the drug, but one could say everything you're experiencing is caused by your own body. The drug just released your own neurotransmitters. It's all you. I could honestly postulate that DMT is perhaps the most natural drug around. 2C-B is most certainly not natural. Nor is 4-AcO-DMT. Nature didn't make them. Man did. Maybe a different word is needed here so this doesn't become all about semantics. LOL

EVERY, SINGLE, NIGHT you trip off of DMT. I always knew there was something magical about dreams as a child. Well now I know.

ok let me rephrase IMHO i feel 2cb/4acodmt IMITATE NATURALISM way more than DMT. Even though DMT is natural

KillerBudz1 said:

ok let me rephrase IMHO i feel 2cb/4acodmt IMITATE NATURALISM way more than DMT. Even though DMT is natural

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Naturalism? LOL Nah I understand what you mean. Well that's what it was made to do. DMT doesn't need to imitate 'naturalism' because it is by default.

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2C-B is a very enjoyable drug, I just don't find it very useful. There is a reason Shulgin listed it as perhaps his favorite in the book. What you experience from a drug is caused by the drug, but one could say everything you're experiencing is caused by your own body. The drug just released your own neurotransmitters. It's all you. I could honestly postulate that DMT is perhaps the most natural drug around. 2C-B is most certainly not natural. Nor is 4-AcO-DMT. Nature didn't make them. Man did. Maybe a different word is needed here so this doesn't become all about semantics. LOL

EVERY, SINGLE, NIGHT you trip off of DMT. I always knew there was something magical about dreams as a child. Well now I know.

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I raise my brow in a spurt of disconcert Cryptkeeper at the fact that your posting a theory as an actual concrete fact. It's yet to be proven that DMT is the main mechanism of action that propels are minds into a fantasy dream world. But I rightly so believe in the theory so much that I would indeed call it a fact of life! Do you guys ever wonder why we yawn so fucking much when coming up on mushrooms or anything that boost are serontonin levels incredibibly? Look at the structures of Melatonin, DMT, Serontonin... then you'll see

Its as far as you want to take the 2c-b experience... there is no imaginary line where to draw back on the benficial aspects of 2c-b. We don't have to consume something that infuriates are subconscious to the point of breaking down are ego to actually realize are own demise. 2c-b is a great facilitator and lets us better capture what we are essentially missing out on everyday. Its a window to peer into and marvel at the great things above us, its not a total escape!