Yellow leaves...Lack of nitrogen ????

iw720

iw720

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Hey, this is my 3rd time growing and im getting hard time with this plant .... i upgraded to a 10 gallon smart pot and the feeding amount changed due to the size of the pot. It looks like she need more nitrogen but im not sure .... ive been feeding every water --- 2 tsp floragrow --- 2 tsp flora micro ---2 tsp of calimagic in 3 gallon of water and i always water until i get some runoff .i water every 4 days ishh when the top inch is dry. One of my mistake was that i premixed before adding to water i dont know if that is the cause of that issue. The leaves looks a little droopy on the picture cause its 9pm and she's getting ready for sleep...
 

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spek9

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Definitely Nitrogen deficient. What's your PPM?

When you said you "premixed before adding water", do you mean the nutrient bottles themselves? Definitely, definitely a big no-no. At concentrated levels, the chemicals precipitate and fall out of suspension in the liquid. That renders the nutrients unavailable for plant uptake.

Always read the directions on the bottles! In fact, always read all the words on the bottles. There are very detailed mixing instructions on every bottle, along with other pertinent information.

One last thing... where's your Flora Bloom? The plants need Potassium and Phosphorus throughout the entire plant lifecycle.
 
iw720

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spek9 said:
Definitely Nitrogen deficient. What's your PPM?

When you said you "premixed before adding water", do you mean the nutrient bottles themselves? Definitely, definitely a big no-no. At concentrated levels, the chemicals precipitate and fall out of suspension in the liquid. That renders the nutrients unavailable for plant uptake.

Always read the directions on the bottles! In fact, always read all the words on the bottles. There are very detailed mixing instructions on every bottle, along with other pertinent information.

One last thing... where's your Flora Bloom? The plants need Potassium and Phosphorus throughout the entire plant lifecycle.
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spek9 said:
Definitely Nitrogen deficient. What's your PPM?

When you said you "premixed before adding water", do you mean the nutrient bottles themselves? Definitely, definitely a big no-no. At concentrated levels, the chemicals precipitate and fall out of suspension in the liquid. That renders the nutrients unavailable for plant uptake.

Always read the directions on the bottles! In fact, always read all the words on the bottles. There are very detailed mixing instructions on every bottle, along with other pertinent information.

One last thing... where's your Flora Bloom? The plants need Potassium and Phosphorus throughout the entire plant lifecycle.
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JoeBlow5823

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That is a refreshingly simple, obvious case of nitrogen deficiency. Thank you for the good pictures of the leaves and whole plant. And yeah with the flora trio you need the Bloom. Read the chart on the bottle.
 
iw720

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I mixed everthing in a goblet and pour everything in 3 gallon of water and stir that up and pour into the soil .... there is my 1st mistake and the 2nd one is for some reason i taught that i only had to give florabloom at transition and flowering stage
 
JoeBlow5823

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iw720 said:
I mixed everthing in a goblet and pour everything in 3 gallon of water and stir that up and pour into the soil .... there is my 1st mistake and the 2nd one is for some reason i taught that i only had to give florabloom at transition and flowering stage
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Read the chart on the bottle. And you mix your nutrients into your water one at a time in order, dont mix them all up first.
 
Merlin1147

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The plant is starving. At the rates you posted ”2 tsp floragrow --- 2 tsp flora micro ---2 tsp of calimagic in 3 gallon of water” is 70 ppm N, 9 PPM P and 60 PPM K. You have to bump that up.And you should be adding Bloom to the recipe. It’s the only Big source of P
 
iw720

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So now should i stay with the same ratio and just add bloom? And of course mixing the feed right away into the water instead of all together into a cup? .... and im wondering if 3 gallon is too much for a 10gallon pot? Cause i dont want to flush everithing out
 
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iw720 said:
I mixed everthing in a goblet and pour everything in 3 gallon of water and stir that up and pour into the soil .... there is my 1st mistake and the 2nd one is for some reason i taught that i only had to give florabloom at transition and flowering stage
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At least you've asked about it and can rectify that so it's not a problem going forward.

I don't recall the precise process to mix up GH Flora, but what I know for certain is you start with your water, then add each bottle in one at a time after the previous one is mixed in.

The Bloom is very important. As I said, both P & K in the Bloom bottle are needed throughout the grow. The plants require slightly more after the first couple of weeks in flower, until the final couple of weeks.
 
iw720

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Ok perfect guys im gonna follow that recepie on that bottle . I wasnt really following it cause my brother followed it and burnt his plant who was in late veg stage
 
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iw720 said:
So now should i stay with the same ratio and just add bloom?
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No. You need to increase at least the Grow and Micro. If I'm not mistaken, it's closer to 2 tsp per gallon, not per 3 gallon, but don't quote me, read the label, and start using about 2/3 of what's recommended per gallon. Start using Bloom at 2/3 recommended as well.

Give this to the plants for 2-3 waterings, and see how things look at that time. You may need to increase the amounts, decrease them, or you might
have just lucked out on the right amount.

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And of course mixing the feed right away into the water instead of all together into a cup?
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This is critically important. Mixing the nutrients together in concentrate form should never, ever be done. I can't stress enough to start with water, add in each bottle until thoroughly mixed in.

Read the instructions. Again, right on the bottle. There's even a specific order that GH states they need to be mixed.
 
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iw720 said:
Ok perfect guys im gonna follow that recepie on that bottle . I wasnt really following it cause my brother followed it and burnt his plant who was in late veg stage
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That's why I said 2/3 what they recommend. You can adjust up or down from there, but you can't un-burn over fertilized plants.
 
JoeBlow5823

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There is a chart.... use it. This might be a little strong because its in dirt but because your deficient, i would start here. Follow the "week 3 veg" amounts until you flip to 12/12

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JoeBlow5823

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iw720 said:
Ok perfect guys im gonna follow that recepie on that bottle . I wasnt really following it cause my brother followed it and burnt his plant who was in late veg stage
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Just go a touch lighter than what the bottle says.... And the size of the plant compared to the size of the pot is important. The more soil you have for a plant, the less nutrients it will need added to it. The chart is just a guide. If you are following it and things start to look toxic, back off. If they look hungry, add more.
 
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JoeBlow5823 said:
There is a chart.... use it. This might be a little strong because its in dirt but because your deficient, i would start here. Follow the "week 3 veg" amounts until you flip to 12/12

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Well, that makes things as clear as mud.

To me, the amount (tsp) per gal looked different than what I remember, so I went and grabbed a bottle I have left over from when I used to use the stuff. Way different. For example, For late flower phase, I've got listed on my bottle 1 tsp Grow, 2 tsp Micro and 3 Bloom.

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iw720

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spek9 said:
Well, that makes things as clear as mud.

To me, the amount (tsp) per gal looked different than what I remember, so I went and grabbed a bottle I have left over from when I used to use the stuff. Way different. For example, For late flower phase, I've got listed on my bottle 1 tsp Grow, 2 tsp Micro and 3 Bloom.

LOL
JoeBlow5823 said:
There is a chart.... use it. This might be a little strong because its in dirt but because your deficient, i would start here. Follow the "week 3 veg" amounts until you flip to 12/12

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This is what mine says
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