Budley Doright
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Have you been replaced by an alien? You dont seem to be on top i
of your game here Doc lol.
yellowing leafs with pics..
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of your game here Doc lol.
Dr. Who
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All 3 grows have done the unwanted and they have all merged into harvest at once......people scrambling here and there and trying to get this one strain at this place done because it's ready now and then the next day to another to get that strain done because it's ready NOW and, and, and........
Patients do most of the trimming and employees are cleaning and moving in the new plants to bloom....It's rather hectic and I still have to find time to direct the Farm harvests and trim my own from my personal.......head spinning......It's another hectic day today and the Co-op meeting is at my house tonight.....
I have to git now.....Meeting with spartan stores to renew buying contracts for the farm products.......No harvest relief till Tuesday, sigh.
Doc
Budley Doright
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Been there lol. My outdoor grows in the past were a fucking nightmare at end times. Droppin shit into the trimmers, humidity going crazy, etc. my last outdoor had me talking to a cop three feet from a panel van filled to the brim with 100 just harvested blueberry plants in my driveway. That was the last one that I did, god or someone helped me with that one lol. Now its just me and the misses with our nice little shed of happiness lol.
Gianttee
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those brown spots are the start of over fertilisation. so they dont like the ec your given them. give them a good flush then wait a couple of days back off on nutes and try again. the spots wont dissappear but the new growth will let you know how your going. i couldn't tell you about rhizotonic but i know for sure canna zym is for plant s that are old enough to help them break down and digest roots that are decaying.
if those spots continue after the flush, it could be rust, a fungal condition but i really dont think its that. there are many sprays for rust but just tick off one thing at a time. good luck.
if those spots continue after the flush, it could be rust, a fungal condition but i really dont think its that. there are many sprays for rust but just tick off one thing at a time. good luck.
ItsJustMe84
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I appreciate the advice dude, probably the best ive had on this post thus far as you can see lol,
Since then ive had an expert tell me he was positive i was dealing with early signs of cal mag def, due to my water been really soft, 0.1 ec and the fact that coco sucks alot of the cal mag out of the base nutes, ive also seen alot of pictures of early cal mag def and the dark veins, with yellowing round the sides which turn into brown spots is usually cal mag def.. as for my ec its pretty low only .7 and i started at .3 including my water e.c on both.. as for cannazym it was reccomend as part of cannas calculated grow guide, to use from week 2 of Veg, im new to canna before i used to use vitalink.. anyway ive supplimented my tank with cal mag and cut back a few ml on my base nutes just so the ec doesnt exceed .7.. if this doesnt work then ill be flushing, but i must say out of 15 plants its only 4 or 5 that have been affected and it is only the baby leafs the rest of the plant looks really healthy so im not to worried as of yet but id still like all my girls to look 100% sexyy lol
Budley Doright
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I get the same spots on mine as well but only a few out of the whole tray so watching what you find successful. Im not in coco though so may be a bit of a difference in strategies. Good luck.
ItsJustMe84
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Since using the cal mag the affected leafs seem to have a thin shiny coat on them almost like a glaze and they dont seem to be spreading anymore, i think the damage looks more faded too, i dont think it will disappear altofther but hopefully it wont spread.
Ive no doubt something else will pop up though, it always does haha
Ive no doubt something else will pop up though, it always does haha
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Kingrow1
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I see spots as the plant eating nutrients stored in vacuoles and cell structures such as mitochondria which causes cell death.
The shine on leaves comes from generous nutrient levels and is a sign of health.
My seedlings quickly needed increased nutrients although a very low level increased germination.
Drop the cal mag and just increase nutrient ec/ppm on one plant till leaves start to get shinnier and growth rate increases
At first my seedlings looked like yours after a period of good growth so i went 1ec and they started bouncing back and deeper nicer green.
Increasing ferts increases cal/mag anyway. Hope this helps
The shine on leaves comes from generous nutrient levels and is a sign of health.
My seedlings quickly needed increased nutrients although a very low level increased germination.
Drop the cal mag and just increase nutrient ec/ppm on one plant till leaves start to get shinnier and growth rate increases
At first my seedlings looked like yours after a period of good growth so i went 1ec and they started bouncing back and deeper nicer green.
Increasing ferts increases cal/mag anyway. Hope this helps
Gianttee
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its all fun, sounds like you have plenty of info to go on now. ive asked about supplementing cal mag with canna and was told there was no need as the nutes have the correct ratios in it. anyway there is so many different opinions and easy to get lost in it all, try different things a see what works for you. it seems like different strains have different needs and lots of variables to take into consider. most of yours are healthy so they few that arnt might be weaker genetically. no biggie, need to slay a few dragons before you get the princess!
ItsJustMe84
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Well the cal mag seems to have made the new leafs shiny, but the old leafs are still spreading pretty slow so, so i may have over fertilised too, not a big deal but just to be on the safe side im going to mix up a half strength tank and feed until run off try and get any excess crap out of the bottom but i dont want to go for the full flush just yet, ive currently got around 13 2 week old babys.. and 3 week old babys so im just gonna give different ones different feeds and see which one makes best.. my white widow seems to drink a hell of alot, and can handle higher strength mixes, were as my blue cheese droops everytime i feed it but niether of them show signs of anything, and the ones that do are only affected on the first single leafs.. maybe i over fertalized at the very begining and the baby leafs got the brunt of it.. i dont know haha its overwhelming, like ive said before this is my first time growing using canna nutes, ph adjusting and ec feeding so im always asking myself if im understanding it properly..
ItsJustMe84
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Yes well with the cal mag, i only planned on giving them one high strengrh dose then knocking it on the head as i dont think they need it in every feed.. my next tanks will be low ec mix and a high ec mix as somethings a miss, i probably could carry on as i am and be ok but id much rarther figure it out.. appreciate the advice dude..
Kingrow1
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To get to this stage youve obviously done a lot right, i would assume slowly rising the ferts will show a difference over time and green the leaves up. Is your cal/mag calcium nitrate? because that is nitrogen also and maybe why your leaves went shinnier as nitrogen will do that.
ItsJustMe84
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Cheers dude, that raises my confidence a little, how much longer should i keep my babys in these 15cm pots? Every drainage hole is packed out with roots showing at the bottom? My next pot will be 12 litres
Kingrow1
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Others will know better for coco transplants, im just starting up some grows and found a low start before feeding up seemed best for seedlings. Unfortunatly because of the low start i kept it low and they got dull and pale. I went higher on the nutes and things got greener. I am trying to find a set routine that works good to keep repeating. Seems like the more seeds im germinating the easier its getting.
Just see what happens and hopefully thats the solution.