Yes you can use h2o2 in soil without killing beneficial bactira !!!!

crazyj4life

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  • I spoke with my friend today. He's somewhat of a guru whenit comes to growing. He broke it down like this. H2o2 will kill good and bad microbs, but if used properly it will only single out the bad one and terminate them. Then he when on to explain that the ozone layer creates h2o2 regularly and that binds with the rain or something like that (I was really cooked at the time)and then help to enrich the rain water with oxigen, thus increasing the wellbeing of your outdoor ladies in many ways. It sounds pretty credible to me and guy grows some of the best dank I have ever consumed. In his words " h2o2 is one of the magical elements of outdoor cultivation" he's going to give me a chat defining the quantities used for the best results. I think I remember him saying you shouldn't mix it with anything but water. I'll know more soon!​



 

imchucky666

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  • Went to hang with my friend toda to blaze and get some good grow tips he's somewhat of a guru whenit comes to growing. He broke it down like this. H2o2 will kill good and bad microbs, but if used properly it will only single out the bad one and terminate them. Then he when on to explain that the ozone layer creates h2o2 regularly and that binds with the rain or something like that (I was really cooked at the time)and then help to enrich the rain water with oxigen, thus increasing the wellbeing of your outdoor ladies in many ways. It sounds pretty credible to me and guy grows some of the best dank I have ever consumed. In his words " h2o2 is one of the magical elements of outdoor cultivation" he's going to give me a chat defining the quantities used for the best results. I think I remember him saying you shouldn't mix it with anything but water. I'll know more soon!​



Make sure you get that explanation, and maybe he can also explain how Doans back pills know to go to your back and not your knee.
 

jpeg666

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  • Went to hang with my friend toda to blaze and get some good grow tips he's somewhat of a guru whenit comes to growing. He broke it down like this. H2o2 will kill good and bad microbs, but if used properly it will only single out the bad one and terminate them. Then he when on to explain that the ozone layer creates h2o2 regularly and that binds with the rain or something like that (I was really cooked at the time)and then help to enrich the rain water with oxigen, thus increasing the wellbeing of your outdoor ladies in many ways. It sounds pretty credible to me and guy grows some of the best dank I have ever consumed. In his words " h2o2 is one of the magical elements of outdoor cultivation" he's going to give me a chat defining the quantities used for the best results. I think I remember him saying you shouldn't mix it with anything but water. I'll know more soon!​



I think your friend is fuckin trolling your stoned ass and you bought it LMAO!
 

jpeg666

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In all honesty not trying to flame or be disrespectful, that is not good advice at all! Explain how natural H202 differs from man made H202 in the way that natural H202 Magically knows how to kill the bad bacteria and not the good bennys
 

jpeg666

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H202 is a simple molecule and you can do absolutely nothing to it to make it kill some bacteria and not others if you changed the structure it would no longer be H202 and if you added things to it, it also wouldn't be natural anymore so it doesn't logically make any sense that natural occurring H202 acts any different than made made Hydrogen peroxide
 

chusett

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ozone H202 is made naturally.. through lightning and rainstorms mixed with pine forests, mixing with the sun's UV rays hitting the ozone's oxygen.

Manmade H202 is different.

In terms of what kills MORE bacteria, radicals, and microbes it would be ozone. But for what types of microbes commercial man made h202 kills, I don't know. I'd say probably not a great idea to use man made h202 in soil, just my 2 cents.
 

crazyj4life

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In all honesty not trying to flame or be disrespectful, that is not good advice at all! Explain how natural H202 differs from man made H202 in the way that natural H202 Magically knows how to kill the bad bacteria and not the good bennys
I think you took this outta context a bit , he was referring to how out door Plants are much less problematic then indoor for a few simple reasons. One of them being the natural h2o2. Also it's a great quick fix for slimey brown roots.
 

crazyj4life

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ozone H202 is made naturally.. through lightning and rainstorms mixed with pine forests, mixing with the sun's UV rays hitting the ozone's oxygen.

Manmade H202 is different.

In terms of what kills MORE bacteria, radicals, and microbes it would be ozone. But for what types of microbes commercial man made h202 kills, I don't know. I'd say probably not a great idea to use man made h202 in soil, just my 2 cents.
Do you know how they differ? It recommends food grade and has dalution tables for it all over the net. I figured I would check it out before trusting the half wits that felt comfortable making asses out of them selves. I was just tring to pass on the info. Like I said take it or leave it.......,
 

crazyj4life

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Here is another post on rollitup that supports using h2o2 on your gals. PS most of you ppl that replied please do the world a favor and don't reprocreate PLEASE. We really need nartual selection to make a big come back on the human race....

Oh and just to be clear plants grow well in the out doors because of the many nartual elements that the earth provides.
H2o2 is one of them. I have had sick plants that need to be separated from the rest as not to cross contaminate. I put them out in the yard to see what if anything would happen. Well they recovered and fast ,but I don't think there was any magic involved lmfao. As for you ppl that think I'm saying there is some big difference in man made or natural h2o2. Sorry but you'll have to throw on your reading glasses and take another peek. That being said the only difference between them that I know of is that when you buy it in any frm besides food grade then it's not safe for human consumtion and can't be the same as natrual h2o2 for that reason alone. But with food grade I'm pretty sure it's the same as what you'd find in the rain.

On that note I don't think I'll be sharing anything else I lern that's new and exciting. Witch is unfortunate cause in this day and age with our technology it's fun and easy to stay ahead of the curve. Of course unless you think you know it all and refuse to look at new methods and/or ideas. I guess ingnorence is bliss but when it shows in your moldy low yeilding plans that bliss seems like a pain in the ass to me.

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/382150-super-enrich-your-water-oxygen.html
 

jpeg666

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gtfo. Don't be a douche. H202 has it's place for growing plants but not if you are using any kind of bacteria too aid the plant growth you will just kill it all, Mad made or natural!
 

crazyj4life

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gtfo. Don't be a douche. H202 has it's place for growing plants but not if you are using any kind of bacteria too aid the plant growth you will just kill it all, Mad made or natural!
you would be rite if the istructions were poor h2o2 rite into the soil but that's not how it works. Go do ur reserch and stop misleading the blind.
 

jpeg666

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.......why don't you go mix up some hydrogen peroxide in some water pick some up in a dropper and put a cultured bacteria under a microscope and drip it on it and TELL ME IT DOES NOT kill it.

I also understand that is not the same as putting it in soil, but you cannot sit there and tell me that it is good or beneficial to the bacteria culture living in the soil


.....oy.....i do not want to get into another argument on this damn site....I agree it has it's place and use, but please do not say I am misleading the blind, That's all I have to say.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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wtf people h202 is natural as fuck, as long as its not used by an idiot, it can be beneficial


http://herbanmeadows.blogspot.com/2007/09/more-information-on-hydrogen-peroxide.html
As I've had a lot of interest on the H2O2 (based on my article "H2O2 to Oxygenate Plants," in the Late Summer issue of Bl-Herbs, at http://www.herbanmeadows.com/newsletter.htm), I wanted to give you some more information on its use in the garden.

As a further explanation for how H2O2 is in rain (thus making the plants greener and much happier), see the chemistry explanation below, excerpted from http://www.using-hydrogen-peroxide.com/peroxide-garden.html - I couldn't have said it better myself!

H2O2 in Rain . . . . . . .



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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17325747"
The role of hydrogen peroxide in regulation of plant metabolism and cellular signalling in response to environmental stresses.

Slesak I, Libik M, Karpinska B, Karpinski S, Miszalski Z.
Source

Institute of Plant Physiology, Polish Academy of Sciences, Kraków, Poland.

Abstract

Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is produced predominantly in plant cells during photosynthesis and photorespiration, and to a lesser extent, in respiration processes. It is the most stable of the so-called reactive oxygen species (ROS), and therefore plays a crucial role as a signalling molecule in various physiological processes. Intra- and intercellular levels of H2O2 increase during environmental stresses. Hydrogen peroxide interacts with thiol-containing proteins and activates different signalling pathways as well as transcription factors, which in turn regulate gene expression and cell-cycle processes. Genetic systems controlling cellular redox homeostasis and H2O2 signalling are discussed. In addition to photosynthetic and respiratory metabolism, the extracellular matrix (ECM) plays an important role in the generation of H2O2, which regulates plant growth, development, acclimatory and defence responses. During various environmental stresses the highest levels of H2O2 are observed in the leaf veins. Most of our knowledge about H2O2 in plants has been obtained from obligate C3 plants. The potential role of H2O2 in the photosynthetic mode of carbon assimilation, such as C4 metabolism and CAM (Crassulacean acid metabolism) is discussed. We speculate that early in the evolution of oxygenic photosynthesis on Earth, H2O2 could have been involved in the evolution of modern photosystem II.
 

hydrosoil78

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hydrogen dioxide from the supermarket- beneficial maybe but not organic. Most plants should be fine without it , like mine, year after year. sounds like a desperate thing to use. the idea is it helps the h202 in the plant or kills bad bacteria? growing in soil, there are no shortcuts for me-whatever needs to be done, neem oil or insecticidal soap is as harsh as it gets
 

Samwell Seed Well

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its useful, not a crouch , use it for what it works well at, hydro systems and cleaning cleansing various things for your grow, including root rot, and correct bacteria imbalances . . . . . and pots cloners . . .i use it to clean just about everything that comes in contact with my grow

but i would advise using it in organic solutions at all, other things can be used in its place,
 

colonuggs

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Hydrogen peroxide in earth’s natural watering system (rain)


When the garden is watered by rain, there is a small amount of hydrogen peroxide in the water. It is part of the earth’s cleaning system.....
As rain comes through earth’s ozone layer, some of the molecules of water (H2O) pick up an additional oxygen atom (O), becoming H2O2 – hydrogen peroxide!
Oxygen is O2, while ozone is O3. Ozone is very unstable -that third oxygen atom moves on easily. So the water has no trouble picking up some single oxygen atoms.

Hydrogen peroxide is also very unstable -oxygen is readily freed up to oxidize various things that it encounters (such as bacteria, viruses, mold, pollution…) In the process of oxidation, the hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is broken back down into water (H20) and oxygen (O).

Hydrogen peroxide will oxidize many kinds of pathogens and pollution, so it helps to clean the air, as the rain falls. I’ve read that there is currently less peroxide in rain water than was common in the past, since oxidizing air pollution now "uses up" much of the peroxide. (Hydrogen peroxide is always "used up" by the oxidation process.)Now, I think that cleaning up some of the pollution in the air is a fine use for hydrogen peroxide, as the air after a rain is so much nicer to breathe. But our plants like peroxide too!

How to mix and apply Hydrogen Peroxide in Gardening


Okay, suppose that you’re keen on the idea of using hydrogen peroxide in gardening, but you just want to know how to apply it.... Okay, I’m ready to explain!

As usual, there are options -- there are several ways to go about feeding hydrogen peroxide to your garden.


Mix water and a bit of hydrogen peroxide in a bucket (or any container), then water the plants


The chart here shows the quantities of water and hydrogen peroxide to use for applying hydrogen peroxide in gardening. You can mix peroxide into a whole bucket of water, or just into a glass of water, whatever amount you need.

The same mixture of peroxide and water can be used for watering houseplants as well as plants that are in the ground. So, a glass of water may be all you need for an indoor plant, where you'll need a bucket to mix enough to water a tree or a flower garden. Whatever size container you use, it is simple enough, just mix in peroxide as shown.


Take care to be sure you are using the right column in the chart depending on whether you are using 3% hydrogen peroxide or 35% hydrogen peroxide!!




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