You think you know lighting?
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9inch bigbud
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in that pic you mean? no just veged till the plant got to the screen and pulled every thing under for 2 weeks flower then let every thing grow to the end just move a few buds to give them room to grow a bit better. some people will spend a few weeks keeping bending and training under the net. i had 11 plants under that and knew it would fill up with out any extra veg time i only used the net to keep the plants with in the 2 foot of space i had to grow in above the screen.
in sog you never top the plants only side branches that grow in to other plants are cut or anything that does not stay close to the main stem what you end up with is a stick with about 18" top to bottom of soild bud that make a thud when it its cut and its the floor
thanks for the info... really appreciated anyway i could yield close to 500-600 with a soil operation ? i dont think im experienced enough to start with hydroponics...
and sorry for straying off topic on your thread man but this is very valuable information right here that must be said hahahaha
and sorry for straying off topic on your thread man but this is very valuable information right here that must be said hahahaha
9inch bigbud
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yes it can be done in soil SOG small plants but lots of them.
uptosumpn
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So what kind of soil did u use...how do u rate the fox farm ocean forest?? and what size pots did u use?? my grow cabinet will be 56" x 56" x 78.75" so I would go with about 12 plants, (depending on pot/bag size of course) for adequate spacing using a 600HPS either in an cool tube or water cooled reflector<<still haven't decided..
Thanks for all you advice...
Thanks for all you advice...9inch bigbud
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the soil you see in those pots is old reused many times i got it from local DIY store what you want to do is get seedling and cutting compost that way you can start to feed the plants almost immediately i use vital link grow for veg and vita link bloom for flower any hydro nutes will do you. I feed 1/2 strenth nutes every other watering depending on plant size 1 feed 1 water 1 feed 1 water through out the grow untill the last 10 days then its just ph'ed water.So what kind of soil did u use...how do u rate the fox farm ocean forest?? and what size pots did u use?? my grow cabinet will be 56" x 56" x 78.75" so I would go with about 12 plants, (depending on pot/bag size of course) for adequate spacing using a 600HPS either in an cool tube or water cooled reflector<<still haven't decided..
1000w cool tube 16 plants in a 4x4 area good yeilding plant 7-14 days veg from clone or 3 weeks from seed should get you minimum 2oz a plant up to 3oz easy.
dont try to cover to much room with the light 50w psf should be minimum 1000w/16sqf = 62.5 watts per squre foot if you add even more the yeild will go up again.
i use 10L pots iv never used fox farm?
plant below are under 1 x1000w cool tube in 4x4 room = 16 plants
pic below is a photo of plant 14 yeild 79g x that by 16 plant=???
uptosumpn
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ok, so u use hydro nutes in soil???
and Fox Farm is a brand..they make some of the best soil, which is mostly used by all soil growers...great nutes too...anyway, so u say a 1000 watter is better in my size tent for light penatration?? and i could have 16 plants instead of 12 with ample spacing in 10L pots to get 2oz - 3oz per plant? is that wet or dry?? and how tall did these grow using the 1000w, because i see that u didn't trim,(lollypop them like you did the ones under the 600w) is vita link soil nutes or hydro nutes? BTW, is 10L 2 or 3 gallons?? is seedling compost peat moss, like miracle grow seed starter? and what is cutting compost? and finally, how close to the tops did u keep the 1000w? cause u said with the 600w u kept it 8"...and to answer your math question...79gm x 16 plants= 1,264gm! that's 2oz 6gm short of 3lbs!!
(1,326gm) ++REP!
and Fox Farm is a brand..they make some of the best soil, which is mostly used by all soil growers...great nutes too...anyway, so u say a 1000 watter is better in my size tent for light penatration?? and i could have 16 plants instead of 12 with ample spacing in 10L pots to get 2oz - 3oz per plant? is that wet or dry?? and how tall did these grow using the 1000w, because i see that u didn't trim,(lollypop them like you did the ones under the 600w) is vita link soil nutes or hydro nutes? BTW, is 10L 2 or 3 gallons?? is seedling compost peat moss, like miracle grow seed starter? and what is cutting compost? and finally, how close to the tops did u keep the 1000w? cause u said with the 600w u kept it 8"...and to answer your math question...79gm x 16 plants= 1,264gm! that's 2oz 6gm short of 3lbs!!(1,326gm) ++REP!the soil you see in those pots is old reused many times i got it from local DIY store what you want to do is get seedling and cutting compost that way you can start to feed the plants almost immediately i use vital link grow for veg and vita link bloom for flower any hydro nutes will do you. I feed 1/2 strenth nutes every other watering depending on plant size 1 feed 1 water 1 feed 1 water through out the grow untill the last 10 days then its just ph'ed water.
1000w cool tube 16 plants in a 4x4 area good yeilding plant 7-14 days veg from clone or 3 weeks from seed should get you minimum 2oz a plant up to 3oz easy.
dont try to cover to much room with the light 50w psf should be minimum 1000w/16sqf = 62.5 watts per squre foot if you add even more the yeild will go up again.
i use 10L pots iv never used fox farm?
plant below are under 1 x1000w cool tube in 4x4 room = 16 plants
pic below is a photo of plant 14 yeild 79g x that by 16 plant=???
yes i agree those are some astonishing numbers... and only of one 1000W light.... whatkind of set up did you have for those 16 plants fan, dehumidifier, ballast lpease elaborate im still astonished and if you had more space would you have been able to fit more plants under that 1000W light?? and was that 79grams dry bud ??
9inch bigbud
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right cutting compost is compost you use for starting very young plants im from the u.k i dont know what you use in the U.S? but its the stuff you use for seeds just to start them off.ok, so u use hydro nutes in soil???
you can use hydro nutes on soil have you ever put spent nute on the out side garden? it fucking grows wild.
the 1000w can get down to 12" in the cool tube using a 6" ruck fan perfect covarage over 4x4 room thats 140000 lumans right under the bulb if its a new 1.
uk 10L is 2 gallons but our gallons are 5L i think yours are 3 or 4L so go for a 3 gallon pot. a 1000 watts i use for every 4x4 room and 600s for 3x3 room anything smaller will yeild less anything bigger will yeild more. up to around 75w per squre foot then anymore you will need co2 and mad crazy shit will be seen cola's as thick as human heads.
thanks that answered my question also so you have 6"fans attached to each 1000w do you think one 1000K would be able to cover a larger surface less lumens per plant but would it yield a larger quantity ??
9inch bigbud
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yes that was 79g dry i just use 1000w 1 cool tube , 1x 6" ruck fan, soil, water, pots, in a 4x4 room covered in mylar.
whould i have got more if i used bigger area? NO i would have got less and smaller buds. (i made that box for that light.)
p.s
what a lot of growers dont look at is the mother plant selection you will never do the numbers with seeds the garden needs to be uniform pick the high yeilding plant you can find you will be suprised by what plants yeild over one and other. e.g if you pick a mother plant that is 7g better than any other plant thats an extra 7x36 = 252g or 9oz for nothying if you picked the wrong mother thats how much you are losing.
greatttt info... never really thought it about it like that... makes total sense though that a higher yielding mother will yield more of her lil clones... very informative... what strain are you using right now to yield such great proportions..
9inch bigbud
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at the moment iv got a critical mass mother and her clone's on the go, iv just made a new grow room and have 25-27?? 2 look like they aint going to make the tables the room i have as 4x NFT tables each table can hold 27 plants each, i want to crop every 4 weeks so i will use only 2 tables with 25-27 clone's for the 1st 4 weeks then i hope to have enough cuttings in another 4 weeks to fill the other 2 tables with 54 cuttings and then another 54 total room will hold 108 clones and crop 54 plants every 4 weeks ill be happy to pull 1kg every month it should be more with the mother i have. i use 3x600s or 2x600 and 1x1000 depending on temps? summers is coming so i might have to get some extra extraction going.
uptosumpn
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WOW, great info man!!! Thanks a mil....Oh, when u say u use cutting compost, do u just use that by itself or do u mix with perlite or anything??? and when do u start to feed the girls veg nutes & bloom nutes??(@ what week for each?) AND THAT LAST LINE IS CRAZY!! U HAD ME LAUGHING LIKE CRAZY!!
So the key is to pick fem seeds that have high yields per m2 as they say on seed banks?? Besides the critical mass strain, what other strains can u reccommend that are high yielding exotics?? < i like exotics...ie; purple strains, kush strains, berry strains, ect.. but tell me what u think r best
AeroKing
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Hey guys,
Can I throw a little curve ball in here to try to stir up some shit?
I'd just like to add my view of penetration when it comes to lighting size and bud density.
The phenomenon I speak of is called "light pressure".
Light pressure is directly correlated to the intensity of a single source of light. In other words, a 10 x 100w bulbs could create the same amount of light as a 1000w, but could never create the "pressure".
In growing, light pressure means the ability for light to "push through" plant matter and continue on to provide other leaves... usable light.
(Ever notice leaves aren't 100% opaque?)
It is my current theory that the overall density(and of course weight) of a bud is directly affected by the lights ability to penetrate deeply into the bud.
I believe that a bud grown under smaller lights, no matter how many, can never be as dense as a bud grown under a single higher intensity light.
I've heard folks say that there bud is "dense" when grown under CFLs or T5s, but that is a relative opinion.
Well, anyway, that's just my view, so do with it what you will...
Can I throw a little curve ball in here to try to stir up some shit?
I'd just like to add my view of penetration when it comes to lighting size and bud density.
The phenomenon I speak of is called "light pressure".
Light pressure is directly correlated to the intensity of a single source of light. In other words, a 10 x 100w bulbs could create the same amount of light as a 1000w, but could never create the "pressure".
In growing, light pressure means the ability for light to "push through" plant matter and continue on to provide other leaves... usable light.
(Ever notice leaves aren't 100% opaque?)
It is my current theory that the overall density(and of course weight) of a bud is directly affected by the lights ability to penetrate deeply into the bud.
I believe that a bud grown under smaller lights, no matter how many, can never be as dense as a bud grown under a single higher intensity light.
I've heard folks say that there bud is "dense" when grown under CFLs or T5s, but that is a relative opinion.
Well, anyway, that's just my view, so do with it what you will...
okay im sorry but i do not know what a ruck fan is ?? is it different from a inline fan ?
9inch bigbud
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yes it just a make of fan
9inch bigbud
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3 to 1---- 3 compost 1 perlite and also put some drange in the bottom such as clay pebbles.WOW, great info man!!! Thanks a mil....Oh, when u say u use cutting compost, do u just use that by itself or do u mix with perlite or anything??? and when do u start to feed the girls veg nutes & bloom nutes??(@ what week for each?) AND THAT LAST LINE IS CRAZY!! U HAD ME LAUGHING LIKE CRAZY!!
So the key is to pick fem seeds that have high yields per m2 as they say on seed banks?? Besides the critical mass strain, what other strains can u reccommend that are high yielding exotics?? < i like exotics...ie; purple strains, kush strains, berry strains, ect.. but tell me what u think r best
super skunk and northen lights yeild very good under lights, but nothing will out yeild my CM though